quote:Originally posted by IamShouting!:
I completely understand what you are saying, however, making comments the way you do is not the best approach on getting someone's attention. I mean...really...you said "I picked up my 2x4 again"....really!?!?! How is that calm and attention getting? I personally just think that you come across extremely hard; which is not necessarily a bad thing but its not a good thing either.
Just understand that people do have opinions and that's ok. Make a point, stay calm, keep your hard core opinions to yourself, and do what you say you do...just pray. That's it.
Hi Shouting,
After appealing in many ways, many times, for Neal to join us in "civil" discussions -- I have chosen to take the 2X4 approach. As I said, I am sorry if this offends you.
Several times in past years, I saw my senior pastor, a man who exemplifies Christian love -- ask people to leave our church. At first, I wondered if he were being too harsh. But, in hindsight, I saw that he was right.
Matthew 18:15-17 tells us that if a brother sins -- go and reprove him privately. If he will not hear you; take several mature elders with you to talk with him. If he still will not listen, take him before the church body. And, if he still refuses to listen -- ask him to leave the fellowship. This is what my pastor did.
And, basically, this is my approach with Neal. I sent him PMs long ago, asking that we have civil dialogues. His hateful diatribes continued. I have asked him in the public Forum if can please have civil dialogues. Still he spews hatred for all who do not worship exactly as he does. Several other Forum members have called him on his vehement comments. And, the only effect -- is that he gets more hateful, more vehement, more full of anger. How can there be any civil dialogue when one person insists upon name calling and hatred?
Shouting, you mentioned in another post that it bothered you that some folks in church made remarks about the clothes you choose to wear to church. How would you handle it if these people began to shout at you, reviling you in front of all the church? This is basically what Neal does to anyone who worships differently than him. How would you suggest we handle his insults, anger, and hatred?
Even Jesus got angry at the money changers in the Temple. How do you suppose He would handle one who spews anger and hatred to others?
God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,
Bill
