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Reply to "Barney Fife trashes the Constitution"

Originally Posted by seeweed:
Originally Posted by Road Puppy:

I just watched that video a couple times-and yes, while the cop did walk all over the kid's rights-the kid most definitely DID provoke the cop or at least give the cop reason to be suspicious by making a federal case out of what was a simple instruction.  

 

I've been through plenty of checkpoints and if ya just do like the cop says (passing the attitude test), it only takes a couple minutes and you're on your way again.

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I think the kid baited the cop, not provoked him, unless insisting your rights be upheld is provoking a cop.  I believe the whole intent of the kid was to test whether or not Cops were violating people's rights, and in this case, the cops were weighed in the balance and found wanting.

I hope this video goes viral, the cops get canned, and the kid sues for the damages the dog did to his car.

He did bait the officer.  In TN, the roadblocks have to be announced beforehand (I never understood that).  IMO, he went through the roadbloack with the intention of doing what he did.

 

Problem is, he didnt do anything wrong.  Could he have been more 'cooperative'?  Yep.  Was he required to?  Thats the question at hand.  The officer never even asked if he had been drinking.  Never came up.  Had he, and the guy continued to be uncooperative, then I might lean more toward the officers side.  But this was all about the guy not rolling his window all the way down and asking if he was being detained.  It was about him challenging authority.  

 

The officer not liking his attitude was the officers issue. Attitude might be the difference between getting a ticket or not, but it shouldnt mean the difference between being afforded your constitutional rights or not.  The officer should have been the bigger person and handled it more professionally, then the kid would look like an idiot for baiting them.  Want to see a good example of how to handle being baited - 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3T4oP5gnaIY

 

While the officers in Florence might have been in the wrong to detain him, especially once they determined he had done no wrong, they did a good job of handling the situation and explaining why they were interacting with him.  Even when he refused to be searched, they didnt get agitated with him or cocky about him challenging their authority.  Had the officer in TN gone this route, we would not even be discussing this issue.


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