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Originally Posted by Kenny Powers:
Originally Posted by seeweed:
Originally Posted by Kenny Powers:
Originally Posted by seeweed:
Originally Posted by Kenny Powers:
Originally Posted by seeweed:

I am beginning to think a police state is not as far fetched as you may think

 

It's not getting any better under Barack. He has given himself the pwer to be judge, jury, and executioner of American citizens, signed the NDAA, and increased gov't spying on american citizens. As someone who was against the Iraq war and against the majority of the Patriot Act Barack has been a huge dispappointment in the area of civil liberties. Just another example of how there is very little difference outside of lip service between repubs and dems.

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From looking at the armbands on these people, Obama had nothing to do with this. Most of the legislation stripping people of their Constitutional rights, and the formation of the police state is at the local or state level.,  Far as I know, no one has called out the National Guard to contain peaceful demonstrations , and kill peaceful demonstrators  since the Nixon era..

No he hasn't called out the national guard. All Barack has done is increase the NSAspying on American citizens, tapped the phone lines of the press, and used drones to kill American citizens. However, I am sure you are perfectly fine with that since he is a democrat. If a republican had done those things you would be all up in arms. i just can't fathom ho so,e of you n this board can be so loyal to a political party that you completely discard all individual thinking and blindly agree with everything they do. 

It WAS done by a Republican. The whole thing was started by W Bush. Didn't like it then, don't like it now.

Barack has expanded it even further. If he is the saint and savior that you claim him to be then why hasn't it been stopped? Barack spoke out against illegal wiretaps during his campaign yet they have been used even MORE on AmericaN citizens under his watch. Do not try to blame this on Bush or any repub. this is happening under your messiah Barrack and the buck stops with him now!

 

you are so brainwashed by your political party that you can't bring yourself to say anything negative about them. 

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I am appalled at the NSA spying. I was when it started under the Patriot Act and when it was given even more power with the FISA in 2006. I don't excuse President Obama for his part in it either. However, to try and pretend that this is not a Republican driven issue is disingenuous. If Republican voters had stood with Democrats when it started we would not be where we are today. Also, can you please show me where President Obama has added any new legislature  to the spying programs? Before you look I will tell you he has not. What is on the books and what the NSA is using to legitimize their actions was enable under the Bush administration. Democrats in congress fought to stop it and were told that they were being weak on terrorism and that if we didn't pass the laws that enable NSA to spy on us we would be attacked by terrorist again. 

 

I hold President Obama responsible for not keeping his promise to work to stop the Patriot Act. Yet, I don't see any Republicans in congress doing anything either. The only ones that are still working to overturn it are Democratic congressmen. 

 

This was started by Republicans and is still being supported by Republicans. Congress makes the laws and they are ultimately responsible for them. The Bush administration pushed and got what they wanted from congress but our elected officials are 100% responsible and it is heavily supported by Republicans and not Democrats in congress. 


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