quote:Originally posted by Brentenman:quote:Originally posted by EdEKit:quote:Originally posted by Brentenman:
Dated, yes.
So are the lessons from WW2 and other wars: you do not cut and run. The war is over when the enemy a. is completely wiped-out, dead or b. when he waves the flag of surrender.
I say we root out the Sunni-Shi'ite-al Quaeda insurgents, kill them, THEN and only THEN do we contemplate leaving.....or else, it will be just a festering sore.
I say we leave on OUR terms, not THEIR terms. Leaving on their terms is appeasement, weakness, milk-kneed, and disgraceful.
War is hell...I say give it to them. We didn't ask for it, they started it. So, we need to finish it. Time for Mickey Mouse crap is long gone.
After Iraq is done, then we turn on Iran. They want nukes, I say we give it to them, along the lines of several megatons.....
BRENTENMAN. You do NOT COMMIT ACTS OF AGGRESSION. YOU DO NOT LIE TO THE CONGRESS, THE UNITED NATIONS AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO PRESS FORWARD ON A DOCTRINE OF WORLD DOMINATION. YOU DO NOT TAKE THE WORLD TO THE BRINK OF NUCLEAR WAR TO CREATE A DEMOCRACY THAT IS DIVIDED BY RELIGION AND REGION, SUPPORTIVE OF THE INTERESTS OF THE UNITED STATES, AND IN THE PROCESS CAUSE THE DEATHS OF OVER A HALF MILLION PEOPLE.
Brentenman..you have the biggest gun. BUT YOU DON'T DO ARMED ROBBERY FOR A LITTLE EXTRA CASH.
Our armed forces are for the defense of this country. NOT WORLD CONQUEST.
And, Bren Ten Man. Don't lie to yourself, or me, by saying we are fighting against world wide terror in Iraq. IT JUST AIN'T SO.
EdEKit: why don't you send your remarks to some folks I know who are fighing over there now. I think they would disagree, esp. since they have captured/killed the following over there: Chechans, Bosnians, Saudi's, Afghani's, Iranians, Islamics from all over the place. These are politically correctly called "foreign fighters".
One 101st soldier I talked to recently told us about the Chechan sniper they killed, who was VERY good (killed a friend of his in a Bradley from over 400 yards away). They even killed a sniper who had a Czech Repub. passport.....
Yeah, send your comments to those who are or who have been to Iraq....you will be suprised what you get in response.
Published on Friday, March 28, 2003 by CommonDreams.org
Support the Warrior Not the War: Give Them Their Benefits!
by Ashley L Decker
The recent rally cry "Support Our Troops" seems to me little more than a perverted, propaganda ploy to "Support the War." But we can support our troops, without supporting the war, by rectifying some of the following conditions.
The House of Representatives have recently voted on the 2004 budget which will cut funding for veteran's health care and benefit programs by nearly $25 billion over the next ten years. It narrowly passed by a vote of 215 to 212, and came just a day after Congress passed a resolution to "Support Our Troops." How exactly does this vote support our troops? Does leaving our current and future veterans veterans without access to health care and compensation qualify as supporting them?
The Veteran's Administration, plagued by recent budget cuts, has had to resort to charging new veterans entering into its system a yearly fee of $250 in order for them to receive treatment. It is a sad irony that the very people being sent to fight the war are going to have to pay to treat the effects of it.
According to the Veteran's Administration, 28 million veterans are currently using VA benefits. Another 70 million Americans are potential candidates for such programs. This amounts to a quarter of the country's population. Veterans and their families will sadly begin finding that they have no place to turn for their medical treatment as V.A. hospitals across the country face closing their doors. With the budget shrinking, staff will be let go. This could mean the loss of over 19,000 nurses. Without these nurses, this leads to the loss of over 6.6 million outpatient visits. Approximately one out of every two veterans could lose their only source of medical care. That is, if they even realize help is available to them. The Bush Administration recently ordered V.A. medical centers to stop publicizing available benefits to veterans seeking assistance. This follows discontinued enrollments of some eligible veterans for healthcare benefits as of January, 2003.
Bush Administration funding cuts will also prevent veterans from receiving their disability
pensions. My father was granted 100% disability six years ago for Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder associated with the Vietnam War. He deserves every cent of it. As do all soldiers who are willing to go to war. Under the Bush administration, being granted the ability to receive war related compensation has become a rare privilege, not a right as it should be. Nearly a third of Gulf War veterans, about 209,000 veterans, have submitted claims to to the VA for disability. The backlog of unprocessed claims has reached the astronomical count of 489,297, a number which is unfortunately increasing all of time. There are also currently 500,000 Compensation and Pension cases still pending.
http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0328-11.htm