Well bill, again, any "seeds" you would have to offer about anything would be rotten and you don't know any "truths" of any kind. Like you keep ignoring when I or someone else posts it, I have been there and done that as far as believing goes and I have evolved past it. Get your nose out of that old ancient book of superstitions bill, see if you can be a decent human being for once. You're one of those people that have let religion drive them crazy.