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Reply to ""Once Saved, Always Saved" -- Really?"

Originally Posted by Bill Gray:
quote:   Originally Posted by DarkAngel:

Bill, why would you say that you aimed this thread at the atheist? That makes no sense. We don't believe in ANY of it.  If you will notice the only ones that are arguing this point with you are other Christians.  I have only seen this done among Christians.

 

I (as an atheist) could care less which way you believe your God will save you and take you to heaven.   It's ALL BS to me.

 
Hi Dark,

 

If you will go back and read my initial post, you will find that I did NOT say that this post is aimed at the atheists.  I said that I initially come on the Religion Forum in 2007 to refute the false teachings of the atheist, then primarily Deep and Fish.

 

But, the purpose of my post for this discussion is declared in this statement from my initial post:

 

My non-believing Friends on the Religion Forum continue to challenge me to prove these beliefs.  And, when I do offer Biblical foundation for my beliefs -- they refuse to hear it, they deny it, and they keep asking me, "Bill, you are always preaching OSAS.   Prove it!"

Wee, gee whiz, fellows and gals -- I have shown you practically every Scripture verse in the Bible -- supported by commentary writings from many very knowledgeable pastors, theologians, and Bible scholars.  Yet, you still demand, "Prove it!"


A non-believing Friend could be either a person who is not a Christian -- or it could be a Christian who does not believe the same as I believe.  But, here, I was referring more to my vanilla-flavored non-believing Friends who are not Christian -- yet, want to authoritatively define what a Christian is and what a Christian should believe; even though he/she is not a believer.  

 

So, my Friends who do not follow Jesus Christ anyway -- tells us that they do not believe in eternal security in Christ, i. e., the teaching of "once saved, always saved."  

 

Well, that is sort of like the person who does not like football, and does not follow football -- but, wants to tell Nick Saban how to coach our Alabama team.   Not much credibility.


So, Dark, my Friend, that was, and is, the main thrust of this discussion.

 

But, I am curious.  You tell me, "I (as an atheist) could care less which way you believe your God will save you and take you to heaven. It's ALL BS to me." 

 

Then, since you have absolutely no interest in God, nor how to get to heaven, nor how a person attains eternal security in Christ -- why did you come into a discussion titled, "'Once Saved, Always Saved' -- Really?"  Just reading the title would tell me that this is purely a Christian issue. 

 

So, what brought you into the discussion?  And, why do you then question why I wrote it -- if you (as an atheist) could care less?

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

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I read every new topic when I visit here. Just my habit. I can do that you know....free will and all.

 

This is what I was responding to, you posted to okuok:

 

"So, my whole focus is on addressing those folk -- those atheists and other non-believers who jump on these issues when I mention  them.  That was my focus.  And, although there are Christian believers who also disagree with me -- my mental focus was not on  them -- but, instead, it was on the atheist and other non-believers."

 

Now why would YOU post something like this aimed at atheist who don't believe either way? Makes no sense. As I said before the only ones that argue this OSAS issue with you are other Christians. Show me one post by an atheist where they tried to argue against OSAS in favor of another form of Christian salvation.....show me....

 

You and GK seem to have the same affliction. Can't remember what you wrote even if it was only yesterday....age maybe?

 

You were caught calling Christians non-believers so you threw in the comment about addressing atheist to cover your true feelings on the matter. Okuok, had called you out and said you were sinning. You think that if a Christian does not believe as you do then they are "non-believers" I have been reading here long enough to know that about you.  You believe your interpretation of the bible is the only true one. Everyone one else is wrong and vanilla flavored at best. Right?

 

One more time I will tell you and GK, and the other Christians that question why I come to the religion forum. I come here because I like to discuss the topic of religion. It plays a big role in ALL our lives whether we want it to or not. I don't have to believe that something is real to talk and discuss it. You believe it right? I want to try and understand why and how you could believe such stuff. So far I have not had any real or truthful answers...but I keep waiting and reading.

 


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