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Bill Gray,

 

First of all, Bill, the verse you cite (Rev. 20:3) does not describe the prayer or other request of any MAN. It describes the standing invitation of Jesus Christ.   Your man Guzik says about this that:  "Notice that Jesus gives the call to individuals." I agree, but I must point out that which you have missed, namely that the call is FROM Jesus TO lost mankind, not a request FROM lost mankind TO Jesus.  Guzik writes, "The key to opening the door is to first hear His voice."  In your concept of "asking Jesus to come into your heart,"   the voice is  the supposed voice of the lost sinner calling Jesus, whereas in Rev. 3:20, the voice is that of Jesus calling the lost sinner. You have constructed a scenario in which the relationship is initiated by man; Rev. 3:20 describes an invitation initiated by Jesus.

 

You have gotten it backwards, Bill, in your desperate search for something--anything--to support your contention that a sinner is expected and obliged to "ask Jesus to come into your heart."

The asking, the inviting are done by Jesus; in the best of outcomes, the answer is that of the lost person who heeds the entreaty of the Savior. 

 

Once more you have put up some smoke to dodge the question I have persistently placed before you, Bill.  Your performance is very much like that of the student who encounters an examination question that he can not handle, and who instead puts up a lot of text that really does not answer the question, in hopes that the Professor will not notice that the answer is not there.

 

Here it is again, Bill, that question and challenge that give you so much hermeneutical heartburn that you have several times avoided it and instead spun off peripheral texts that do not address the question at all:

 

Just try, Bill, to deal with the fact situation in Hebrews 6, where the writer identifies persons who have become "partakers of the Holy Spirit" and who nevertheless are found to be in such a spiritual state that they are said to "crucify afresh the Son of God and put him to an open shame".

 

You have thus far shown by your continued silence that you are not able to cobble up even a lame defense of your OSASness that would overcome that compelling characterization of just how a saved person indeed can become lost!

 

We wait to see whether you will man up and attempt to answer this question, but on the basis of your past performance, we are not holding out breath.


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