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Originally posted by prince albert:
Aude Sapere, Eternal Security is another word for "once saved always saved". once you are saved you can't be lost, I know better and maybe you do to, but that is what foundation Bill's religion is based on, and John 10 27-29.

John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
John 10:28 and I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, and no one shall snatch them out of my hand.
John 10:29 My Father, who hath given them unto me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand.


One point about "Eternal Salvation" or "Eternal Security". While many do use the very verses you cited as their proof of that very point I would like to add why many believe such.

First it centers around Scripture's promise that those who accept Christ, are Saved are given the Holy Spirit to dwell (literally live) within their bodies along with their created spirit.

John 14:15 (NIV) 15 "If you love me, you will obey what I command. John 14:16 (NIV) 16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Counselor to be with you forever-- John 14:17 (NIV) 17 the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you.

Romans 8:9 (NIV) 9 You, however, are controlled not by the sinful nature but by the Spirit, if the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ. Romans 8:10 (NIV) 10 But if Christ is in you, your body is dead because of sin, yet your spirit is alive because of righteousness. Romans 8:11 (NIV) 11 And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through his Spirit, who lives in you.

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1 Corinthians 3:16 (NIV) 16 Don't you know that you yourselves are God's temple and that God's Spirit lives in you? 1 Corinthians 6:19 (NIV) 19 Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own;

Given that the Holy Spirit of God, God Himself resides within the Christian's body as a Guarantee of Salvation in order for Satan to win back this person, the person to lose their salvation, then the Holy Spirit would have to be overcome and defeated otherwise it is the Holy Spirit of God who protects the Christian and no one is stronger or greater than God. It is this same indwelling Holy Spirit that is grieved when a Christian sins or lives a lifestyle of Sinning against God. Rather than leaving the Holy Spirit is grieved by our actions.

Ephesians 4:30 (AMP) 30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God [do not offend or vex or sadden Him], by Whom you were sealed (marked, branded as God's own, secured) for the day of redemption (of final deliverance through Christ from evil and the consequences of sin).

If it was possible for a person to sin to the point of losing the Holy Spirit, our guarantee.

Ephesians 4:30 (AMP) 30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God [do not offend or vex or sadden Him], by Whom you were sealed (marked, branded as God's own, secured) for the day of redemption (of final deliverance through Christ from evil and the consequences of sin).

It is based upon the ability of God (the Holy Spirit ) to protect, hold, maintain, the Saint or saved person's salvation that the concept of "Eternal Security" comes from and is based upon.

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