quote:Originally posted by Buttercup:quote:Originally posted by Sofa King:
No amount of evidence will ever change a true believer's mind, Buttercup.
Yeah, you have all the facts and research that soundly proves your point but the stupid runs deep in this area.
Nice try, though.
I know. I'm actually sitting here laughing at the responses because they're all so predictable.
Over and over, the spankers say kids who aren't spanked are brats and end up in jail. LOL! It's still beyond me (for some reason) how a person can't deduce that discipline means to train.
Parents that don't set any limits will in fact have a brat on their hands, but smart parents set limits and boundaries and do use timeouts, etc.; that is discipline and - if it's used consistently - it works. Every time.
Of course the response is predictable, that would be because the correct answers are simple. If someone referenced a study that "found" 2 plus 2 is 500 it is fairly predictable that someone might say that 2 plus 2 is actually 4 and someone might even explain their reasoning by holding up two fingers on each hand and saying "count the total".
Many of your responses come from real world experience, not a clinical study conducted by someone looking to find something wrong with spanking. Whether or not spanking is used as a form of discipline there is a correct way to approach discipline and a wrong way. Any punishment that is overused will not be very effective, discipline without caring does not work out well either. As for limits, setting limits has nothing to do with to spank or not to spank. It's just what approach a parent chooses to use when a child crosses the line.
I would think for most parents that it is gut wrenching to spank their children, additionally is quite a horrible feeling to have to ground my kids. Discipline is not a fun part of being a parent and whether you choose to spank your child for discipline problems or send them to time out with an extra dose of Ritalin I think it is important for kids to know just how much it really bothers us to have to punish them.