quote:However, I will say that you are grasping at straws to poke holes in my opinion by picking out that line as your stomping point, but that’s ok. You are one of the few on this one. You are entitled to your opinion as am I, but to use research to call those of us that do believe it works pretty much ignorant – is as skewed as your research you use to back up your opinion. Just state it as your opinion and let it go.
Wait a minute! I never called you, Eastside, ignorant and that is far from what I think of you. I disagree with you on many issues, but have always respected your opinions. They are well thought-out and I've NEVER seen you attack someone personally.
I picked that out because I was accused by other posters of making assumptions with some of my statements, then you accused me of making assumptions in an earlier post. I was pointing out to you that you were making assumptions as well. Look, I'm quite sure there are parents who spank their kids weekly that would object to being thought of as abusers and would debate you forever about it - much like we're doing here.
quote:If they can do such a grand job at running things why are we in debt to China up to our ears and our prisons are overcrowded?
I never said the government did a grand job. I've said I don't understand why everyone freaks about the fear of intrusion on certain things but not on others; Roe v Wade is a good example of that because I personally don't want some justices making decisions about my body. Apparently, the extreme right is okay with this, but cries the fastest and loudest when government control of anything is mentioned.
Also, all you've been hearing from the right this past year is how government will be approving or denying care and how there will be death panels - which, btw, is still quite funny (Thanks, Sarah!) - if a healthcare bill is passed. But none of you admit that private insurance companies already approve or deny as they wish right now. The right is not concerned about healthcare premiums continuing to go up year after year. I don't understand that.
quote:They took corporal punishment out of the school and they took prayer out of the schools and yet we still have violent offenders entering the system every day – thousands more now than we had 20 and 30 years ago.
Okay, you're oversimplifying with that statement. So taking corporal punishment and prayer out of school leads to an increase in violent offenders? It is your position that there are no other factors that contribute to this? Sorry, but I don't buy that just because Bobby wasn't paddled and exposed to daily Bible verses over the intercom, he ended up in the system. Please.
quote:Roe vs. Wade may never be overturned but that doesn’t mean the government knows what is best for us.
And, again, the Supreme Court doesn't know what's best for me either.
quote:They just realized that women were going to have abortions anyway – at least with law on their side they could get money from the political movements and they could make abortions safer for women that choose the option. It doesn’t make it righteous by any means. By the way, I am Pro-Life, but I think it should be the woman’s choice. Of course, I think women should have guts enough to consult the father to see what he would want too since it does take 2 to tango
On this I agree with you. Having the law on their side meant women could finally have safe abortions, as opposed to dying from hemorrhaging or infection from the back alley kind.
Eastside, the bottom line for me is the vast majority of pediatricians, child psychologists, child development experts, psychiatrists, etc. discourage spanking. And from my own experience and the experiences of my friends who are parents, I know it is the right way to go.
You know we could go round and round on this one. Personally, I think the thread has outlived its usefulness since almost everyone who's posted on this thread seems to be of the same mind; there's no way to distinguish one of your opinions from the other. So I am outnumbered on this particular forum; I knew that before I posted the study.
I find a lack of diverse opinions boring. But if you all are content living in Stepford-ville, enjoy. Just realize there's a big world out there beyond the borders of Colbert and Lauderdale Counties.
(On a lighter note, Eastside, I have to wonder how many prayer lists I've made with all this "pro-choice" talk. LOL!)