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Originally posted by zippadeedoodah:

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Originally posted by Cookey: I'm a secular humanist so that makes Zippy my bro. 'Sup bro?

So I guess I'm a theistic humanist on a quest to make myself into a better person and seek to apply the mind and will of God to my life.

Of course, that means we can still hang out, and hopefully will, over Christmas. And I look forward to visiting that place that has lots of different beers. And a cigar or two.

Hi Zip,

I am just curious. What is your definition of Theistic Humanism? In the article excerpt below, the writer, Victor A. Gunasekara, seems to disclaim Theistic Humanists. I get the feeling this Secular Humanist sees them as merely "groupies" of Humanism.

The Core Principles of Secular Humanism: Twelve Fundamental Principles Stated and Examined
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by Victor A. Gunasekara

It must also be mentioned that the term humanism has also been appropriated by religionists and some even speak of " theistic humanism" (e.g. Gardner Williams in The Humanist Alternative, ed. Paul Kurtz). This is often an attempt to empty humanism of any real content and to make it a synonym for their own dogmatic beliefs, especially relating to what they regard as proper human conduct. In this essay we shall completely ignore this kind of humanism and confine ourselves to what is called "secular humanism," the qualifying adjective "secular" being used to dissociate this kind of humanism from the confusion introduced by theists.

So, in light of this definition; what is your definition of Theistic Humanism?

By the way, you mention that you will be in the Shoals during Christmas -- hanging with the other "humanists" -- having a few beers and cigars. Any plans to visit a church while there? If so, which one? Just curious.

Maybe you can take your atheist/secularist/humanist Friends to church with you. That seems only fair; if you are willing to hang with them in beer bars -- they should be willing to join you in church. Or, have you fully joined their team and prefer their company over that of God? As I said, just curious.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill