quote:Originally posted by MADDOG 20/20:
well inthered, I have to humbly disagree and give MY take on the reason for the post. Some "ministrie" trying to promote itself so it could buy a motorhome! And while I don't always agree with the TD or the NYT, this is one case where I think someone finally realized this was just a "promotions" feature, but I GAURANTEE you if these "ministries" want to PAY for advertising: the TD and NYT will print full page advertisements!
Mad dog it seems that you are really upset and have been hurt by the church. I will not try to defend it. We have failed people misreably. You don't have to look very far to see that. God's word was very clear as to giving. And the actual church of the old (paul and peter's day) sold all they had giving to all generously so that no one was in need and all had everything in common. It seems that the church of today is more interested in sucess for themselves and having the biggest and the best. That is not how it should be, no one should be taking a 250k salary a year and begging people to give... But they do it. All I can say, is that I am a memeber of a church and why it is not perfect and neither am I, we try. The church as a whole needs to change, but only God can do that. I know since I have moved to this area I have became more cynical then ever as I to have saw what you see. There is a stark contrast between the poor and rich. They sit together at church one w/ a 50k auto while the other walking to church and then we wonder why people do not come or want anything to do with God.There is also a difference between being relegious and knowing Christ, and I see alot of relegion in this area. But I have also found this, I am not better than anyone else and therefor I can not judge other peoples hearts. I do not have a lot, and there is a church that helps us out every month and it's not the one I attend. So take heart they are out their, those who really care and give amongst all the ones that are after the bigger and better. I try to give what I can also, I realize now that when I had a better income I could of given more and didn't. I know if that ever change I will. We sometimes don't realize how much we have until we don't have it. I am sure we could all give more to help other if we cared to. I hope the message helps. I hope the church has not hurt you so badly that you will forever shun it. No matter what, please know there are people out their who really do care and are trying to help others. Some are Christian who attend church faithfully others just have a heart for people. Regardless of who they are or where they are at along life's road only God knows the heart and he alone ways the motives of man.