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Re: You baptism is probably invalid

upsidedehead ·
Originally Posted by skippy delepepper: Holster those guns Windsong. These are our forum friends that have stood behind us for the most part from the blazeing attacks from Bill and BeternU. Whether or not you think so, the way you are telling people they are doomed isn't winning any hearts. I truley believe God knows whats in everyone's hearts. And there will be others in Heaven that were not LDS in this life. As it is Bill could come back in his mind as the Savior from us mean Mormon's.
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Re: Who Are The Mormons And What Do They Believe?

WINDSONG ·
Originally Posted by Loki: So I'm confused. Is Jesus and God the same person, or being? Loki, first off, dont believe a thing bill says about "Mormons", he hates them with a passion and will do all he can to discredit them. Now, if you are asking anyone that question then I will answer. The word "GOD"' is a title.Jesus Christ is a "GOD" as well as His Father is a "GOD", as well as the Holy Ghost is a "GOD". All three are seperate beings holding the title "GOD". Together, the three form what...
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Re: You baptism is probably invalid

WINDSONG ·
Originally Posted by upsidedehead: Originally Posted by skippy delepepper: Holster those guns Windsong. These are our forum friends that have stood behind us for the most part from the blazeing attacks from Bill and BeternU. Whether or not you think so, the way you are telling people they are doomed isn't winning any hearts. I truley believe God knows whats in everyone's hearts. And there will be others in Heaven that were not LDS in this life. As it is Bill could come back in his mind as...
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Re: Who Are The Mormons And What Do They Believe?

skippy delepepper ·
Bill/BeternU, Folks this is Skippy. I started by going to his first reference site ( http://www.gotquestions.org/Mormons.html ) I started reading the scripture references that were not from the King James Bible which the LDS church reconizes as THE VERSION to STUDY. Even in the references I found nothing that says Bill/BeternU right, Skippy wrong. I also found a discepency in the verses listed. In John 4:24 it says,"God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in s pirit and truth."...
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Re: You baptism is probably invalid

upsidedehead ·
Originally Posted by WINDSONG: Originally Posted by upsidedehead: Originally Posted by skippy delepepper: Holster those guns Windsong. These are our forum friends that have stood behind us for the most part from the blazeing attacks from Bill and BeternU. Whether or not you think so, the way you are telling people they are doomed isn't winning any hearts. I truley believe God knows whats in everyone's hearts. And there will be others in Heaven that were not LDS in this life. As it is Bill...
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Re: You baptism is probably invalid

WINDSONG ·
Originally Posted by upsidedehead: Originally Posted by WINDSONG: Originally Posted by upsidedehead: Originally Posted by skippy delepepper: Holster those guns Windsong. These are our forum friends that have stood behind us for the most part from the blazeing attacks from Bill and BeternU. Whether or not you think so, the way you are telling people they are doomed isn't winning any hearts. I truley believe God knows whats in everyone's hearts. And there will be others in Heaven that were not...
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Re: Who Are The Mormons And What Do They Believe?

Bill Gray ·
Originally Posted by renecillo7: Bill: Awesome post! Thanks for the clarification. I have always believed that the Mormons are a cult. I have had them knock on my door a few times. Whenever the conversation starts to go towards the bible with them, they leave! Hi Renecillo7, Thank you. One thing we know for sure about our Mormon Friend, Dwight/Skippy, which is typical of all Mormon "evangelist" or their "recent post-puberty elders" who ride bicycles around and knock on doors -- they will not...
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Re: Who Are The Mormons And What Do They Believe?

skippy delepepper ·
Originally Posted by renecillo7: Bill: Awesome post! Thanks for the clarification. I have always believed that the Mormons are a cult. I have had them knock on my door a few times. Whenever the conversation starts to go towards the bible with them, they leave! ren 7, apparently you have not read very little that BeternU/Bill and I have corresponded. I have used only the Bible and references to web sites that shine the truth on the bogus sites he refers to. It's easy to counter his rantings.
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Re: Who Are The Mormons And What Do They Believe?

skippy delepepper ·
Originally Posted by Bill Gray: Originally Posted by renecillo7: Bill: Awesome post! Thanks for the clarification. I have always believed that the Mormons are a cult. I have had them knock on my door a few times. Whenever the conversation starts to go towards the bible with them, they leave! Ren 7, to start with one will usually leave if one is asked to. Hi Renecillo7, Thank you. One thing we know for sure about our Mormon Friend, Dwight/Skippy, which is typical of all Mormon "evangelist" or...
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Re: Purgatory And Hell - Biblical Or Not?

Bill Gray ·
Hi Dwight/Skippy, Your concern touched me so much that I want to share an e-mail I received from a lady in Pennsylvania today about this same article which she received through my Friends Ministry: +++++++++++++++++++++++ She wrote: Wow, Bill! Wow! Yes, a double Wow! I read every word. I couldn't stop reading. Very well done, my brother in Christ. I learned about purgatory, for I had no clue what it was or where it came from. The rest I knew... that which comes from the Bible. As always, it...
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Re: Purgatory And Hell - Biblical Or Not?

gbrk ·
Wow that was quite terse. Actually I did not, and don't, see justification for your take on Bill's post at all. I think what Bill posted made perfect sense and in no way is a reflection on him or his Christianity. I think you are jumping to conclusions that are not justified and here is why. Note that Bill said " When I was much younger and was not yet a Christian ". To me what that says is Bill did not have the Holy Spirit's direction at that time and was living in the flesh and naturally...
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Re: You baptism is probably invalid

WINDSONG ·
Originally Posted by Karl Leuba: Madam, the person -- priest or elder of BFF -- who performs the Baptism is of no consequence. BOY ARE YOU WRONG! EVEN JESUS HAD TO BE BAPTISED BY SOMEONE HOLDING THE PRIESTHOOD A S JOHN THE BAPTIST DID. It is the Baptized who determines his fate. If you will bother to read the sacrament of Baptism, you will find, with a few exceptions, that the sacrament is acceptance into the body of Christians. It is not the path to salvation, Though the Roman Catholic...
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Re: New study links obesity to religion

The Nagel ·
Here ya go.... the upside is - i put just as much faith in the drivel you posted as i do the drivel i am posting here. in otherwords - Nada. According to the Gallup Organization , "Very religious Americans are more likely to practice healthy behaviors than those who are moderately religious or nonreligious." [3] Gallup declared concerning the study which measured the degree to which religiosity affects health practices: " Generalized linear model analysis was used to estimate marginal scores...
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Re: New study links obesity to religion

Unobtanium ·
Originally Posted by The Nagel: Here ya go.... the upside is - i put just as much faith in the drivel you posted as i do the drivel i am posting here. in otherwords - Nada. the original study is here and from a school of medicine. so, tell us, nagle, which study is "correct"? how do you tell? http://www.feinberg.northweste...eligion_Obesity.html they even give a nod to your Gallup poll by saying, "The authors caution that their findings should only be taken to mean people with frequent...
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Re: New study links obesity to religion

The Nagel ·
Originally Posted by Unobtanium: Originally Posted by The Nagel: Here ya go.... the upside is - i put just as much faith in the drivel you posted as i do the drivel i am posting here. in otherwords - Nada. the original study is here and from a school of medicine. so, tell us, nagle, which study is "correct"? how do you tell? http://www.feinberg.northweste...eligion_Obesity.html they even give a nod to your Gallup poll by saying, "The authors caution that their findings should only be taken...
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Re: Purgatory And Hell - Biblical Or Not?

Bill Gray ·
Originally Posted by gbrk: Wow that was quite terse. Actually I did not, and don't, see justification for your take on Bill's post at all. I think what Bill posted made perfect sense and in no way is a reflection on him or his Christianity. I think you are jumping to conclusions that are not justified and here is why. Note that Bill said " When I was much younger and was not yet a Christian ". To me what that says is Bill did not have the Holy Spirit's direction at that time and was living...
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Re: Purgatory And Hell - Biblical Or Not?

gdriggs ·
I think Mr. Gray is more scared of eternal torture than ever before. Im willing to bet if Mr. Gray were to give an honest answer he would still say he does not want to go to hell (eternal torture). It is after all one of his major themes here, always trying to warn people they better get saved or it's hell for you! I have lost count of all the people he has condemned to hell here in this forum. And he just did it again in his last post. Luk 6:45 A good man out of the good treasure of his...
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Re: Who Are The Mormons And What Do They Believe?

Bill Gray ·
Hi Dwight/Skippy, You say, " Yes we as Christains (SIC) know that God the Father and His Son are seperate (SIC) individuals (Gods) with bodies. The Holy Ghost is of Spirit with no body." Will you please show us proof of these statements in the Bible. What Scripture verses or passages support this teaching that God the Father and God the Son are separate Gods? What Scripture supports the teaching that God the Father has a physical body? And, are the Holy Ghost and Holy Spirit the same Person,...
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Re: Purgatory And Hell - Biblical Or Not?

House of David ·
Matt. 5:26,18:34; Luke 12:58-59 – Jesus teaches us, “Come to terms with your opponent or you will be handed over to the judge and thrown into prison. You will not get out until you have paid the last penny.” The word “opponent” (antidiko) is likely a reference to the devil (see the same word for devil in 1 Pet. 5:8) who is an accuser against man (c.f. Job 1.6-12; Zech. 3.1; Rev. 12.10), and God is the judge. If we have not adequately dealt with satan and sin in this life, we will be held in...
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Re: Purgatory And Hell - Biblical Or Not?

Bill Gray ·
Originally Posted by House of David: Matt. 5:26,18:34; Luke 12:58-59 – Jesus teaches us, “Come to terms with your opponent or you will be handed over to the judge and thrown into prison. You will not get out until you have paid the last penny.” The word “opponent” (antidiko) is likely a reference to the devil (see the same word for devil in 1 Pet. 5:8) who is an accuser against man (c.f. Job 1.6-12; Zech. 3.1; Rev. 12.10), and God is the judge. If we have not adequately dealt with satan and...
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Re: Who Are The Mormons And What Do They Believe?

WINDSONG ·
Originally Posted by Bill Gray: Hi Dwight/Skippy, You say, " Yes we as Christains (SIC) know that God the Father and His Son are seperate (SIC) individuals (Gods) with bodies. The Holy Ghost is of Spirit with no body." Will you please show us proof of these statements in the Bible. What Scripture verses or passages support this teaching that God the Father and God the Son are separate Gods? What Scripture supports the teaching that God the Father has a physical body? And, are the Holy Ghost...
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Re: Mormon Evangelism 101 -- You Have Found A Dwight/Skippy!!

WINDSONG ·
Originally Posted by Bill Gray: Hi to all my Forum Friends, Do you remember the old TV series "The A Team" with George Peppard? I always loved it, at the end of the episode, when he would smile and tell his team members, "Don't you just love it when a plan comes together?" Well, I guess my plan of having Dwight/Skippy show his true colors and expose what he has learned from his Mormon Evangelism 101 training -- has come together. Yes sir, every time good old Dwight/Skippy writes about me,...
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Re: Mormon Evangelism 101 -- You Have Found A Dwight/Skippy!!

Bill Gray ·
Dwight/Skippy, my Friend, When I first saw you post -- I had high hopes. For it appeared that you had taken some effort to make it readable English. But, of course, when I did the spell check before posting -- I saw the old Dwight/Skippy seeping through. Oh, well, we are making some progress. Possibly we can enroll you in an English As Second Language writing class. This way, you can write Mormon as your first language; and English as your second language. God bless, have a wonderful,...
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Re: Mormon Evangelism 101 -- You Have Found A Dwight/Skippy!!

Road Puppy ·
Originally Posted by Bill Gray: Dwight/Skippy, my Friend, When I first saw you post -- I had high hopes. For it appeared that you had taken some effort to make it readable English. But, of course, when I did the spell check before posting -- I saw the old Dwight/Skippy seeping through. Oh, well, we are making some progress. Possibly we can enroll you in an English As Second Language writing class. This way, you can write Mormon as your first language; and English as your second language. God...
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Re: Mormon Evangelism 101 -- You Have Found A Dwight/Skippy!!

upsidedehead ·
WINDSONG, you hoisted the white flag of total surrender when you posted the following in reply to Bill Gray, above: "You have done more in here to further the cause of 'Mormonism' Than I ever could because it makes sence and when you write it , they read it and those that have the spirit of truth with them and are hungering for truth read what you write, their spirits recognize the truth and dig deeper. But they dont go to a fundy or any other religion to learn about "Mormons", they go to...
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Re: Purgatory And Hell - Biblical Or Not?

House of David ·
Matt. 12:32 – Jesus says, “And anyone who says a word against the Son of man will be forgiven; but no one who speaks against the Holy Spirit will be forgiven either in this world or in the next.” Jesus thus clearly provides that there is forgiveness after death. The phrase “in the next” (from the Greek “en to mellonti&rdquo generally refers to the afterlife (see, for example, Mark 10.30; Luke 18.30; 20.34-35; Eph. 1.21 for similar language). Forgiveness is not necessary in heaven, and...
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Re: Purgatory And Hell - Biblical Or Not?

Bill Gray ·
Hi David, Just curious. Which part of this did YOU write? God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day, Bill
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Re: You baptism is probably invalid

upsidedehead ·
Originally Posted by WINDSONG: Originally Posted by Karl Leuba: Madam, the person -- priest or elder of BFF -- who performs the Baptism is of no consequence. BOY ARE YOU WRONG! EVEN JESUS HAD TO BE BAPTISED BY SOMEONE HOLDING THE PRIESTHOOD A S JOHN THE BAPTIST DID. It is the Baptized who determines his fate. If you will bother to read the sacrament of Baptism, you will find, with a few exceptions, that the sacrament is acceptance into the body of Christians. It is not the path to salvation,...
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Re: Mormon Evangelism 101 -- You Have Found A Dwight/Skippy!!

WINDSONG ·
Originally Posted by upsidedehead: WINDSONG, you hoisted the white flag of total surrender when you posted the following in reply to Bill Gray, above: "You have done more in here to further the cause of 'Mormonism' Than I ever could because it makes sence and when you write it , they read it and those that have the spirit of truth with them and are hungering for truth read what you write, their spirits recognize the truth and dig deeper. But they dont go to a fundy or any other religion to...
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Re: Ted Nugent: "Obama White House is Mao Zedong Fan Club"

O No! ·
Here is some info about the moron from Wiki: He has had two wives and has eight children, including three out of wedlock in two liaisons almost 30 years apart. In the late 1960s, prior to his first marriage, Nugent fathered a boy and a girl, who he gave up for adoption in infancy. This did not become public knowledge until 2010 or 2011. The siblings were adopted separately and had no contact with one another. The son learned the identity of his birth father in 2010 through the daughter's...
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Re: Christs original teachings restored

gbrk ·
Being human, in this life, on this world, means we all face perils in our life. No matter if you are Christian or not everyone faces difficulties associated with human life. Christians, however, look not to the things of this world but toward the future life past this earthly, physical, one. It is a hope and is comfort to the Believer that their future is one without the perils of this world and this life. Comfort is yet another ministry of God's Holy Spirit which doesn't prevent the...
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Re: True Colors of a "Christian"

gbrk ·
We all have breaking points and wisdom is knowing when to back away, for hopefully only a while. I, for one, will miss O No's contributions to the forum and I'm sorry to hear that she has made this decision but I certainly respect it and understand it. She will be missed and it's regretful that it comes to this but O No is certainly not the first nor will be the last that needs to take some time away. I know there are times that I feel like leaving it alone for a while myself but unlike O No...
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Re: Christs original teachings restored

gbrk ·
Originally Posted by Jennifer: gbrk, I don't fear death. I'm not looking forward to it for various reasons but fear isn't one of them. So if you didn't "believe" you'd be afraid of death? To me it's just "lights out" and then the same as before you were born. One thing I will never understand is why people think there's a god and blindly follow and worship him when he, in their thoughts anyway, causes such horrible things to happen. It's like someone beating a dog to death and it still licks...
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Re: Christs original teachings restored

gbrk ·
Originally Posted by Jennifer: Plenty of stupid people in the world that do odd things. Because they endured those things and died means nothing except they were blanked in the head. That doesn't constitute proof in any way. Where did your god come from? Fair statement yet, I suggest, that is it not also a reason to wonder if there may be something more there than being "blanked in the head"? Given the grievous ways in which many were forced to die for their faith they seemingly had no...
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Re: Lesson one

Bill Gray ·
Hi Cage, I am not sure if you are addressing me -- or Dwight -- or Beter in your post. You open by saying, "You have become a Mormon, Bill." No, far from it. That would be as bad, or worse, than being a Jehovah's Witness. No, my Friend, I am a Conservative Christian -- one who follows the real Jesus Christ of John 1:1 and believes in the Trinity: One God manifested in three distinct Persons - Father, Son, Holy Spirit -- all co-equal, all co-eternal, all having the same attributes, i.e.,...
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Re: Do fundamentalists spread lies and practice deceit?

The Nagel ·
Originally Posted by Bill Gray: Hi Blue, How about when you KNOW it is true? You see, that is the advantage we have in living by the Bible -- we KNOW it is the inspire d (by God), inerrant (God does not make mistakes), literal (God says what He means, and He means what He says) Written Word of God . out of curiosity... if the bible is inerrent and " literal (God says what He means, and He means what He says)" if he says what he means, why do YOU think it's necessary for YOU to continually...
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Re: Do fundamentalists spread lies and practice deceit?

Road Puppy ·
Originally Posted by The Nagel: Originally Posted by Bill Gray: Hi Blue, How about when you KNOW it is true? You see, that is the advantage we have in living by the Bible -- we KNOW it is the inspire d (by God), inerrant (God does not make mistakes), literal (God says what He means, and He means what He says) Written Word of God . out of curiosity... if the bible is inerrent and " literal (God says what He means, and He means what He says)" if he says what he means, why do YOU think it's...
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Re: Do fundamentalists spread lies and practice deceit?

The Nagel ·
Originally Posted by Road Puppy: Originally Posted by The Nagel: i'm assuming not, that was taken straight from a dictionary website. see below: as·pi·rate 1 : an independent sound \h\ or a character (as the letter h ) representing it 2 : a consonant having aspiration as its final component <in English the \p\ of pit is an aspirate > 3 : material removed by aspiration and in medical terms to aspirate means to suck something into your lungs that isn't air... as in " the paitient went...
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Re: Why Did God Create Us?

gbrk ·
Speaking for myself, as a Believer, as a Christian and believer in God I personally believe that "God Created". I can also see where anyone would/could have problems accepting that all creation comes from literally nothing. The main reason that I have no conflict with "God Created" or accepting this is that I also personally believe that God is beyond human conception or understanding. Not only do I, personally, believer that God is beyond conception, or understanding, of the human mind and...
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Re: True Colors of a "Christian"

gbrk ·
Originally Posted by Jennifer: Originally Posted by gbrk: Since I realize that quite often Bills post are looked at in a negative way I'm curious in which ways you feel my post are beginning to mirror his? Long and full of bible quotes. Actually most of my responses, throughout my time on the forum have been long. Not that I plan it that way but I just try to be as complete as possible. I have made some efforts to reduce the length of them but I'm not the best at doing that. I try not to be...
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Re: Ted Nugent: "Obama White House is Mao Zedong Fan Club"

upsidedehead ·
Originally Posted by O No!: Here is some info about the moron from Wiki: He has had two wives and has eight children, including three out of wedlock in two liaisons almost 30 years apart. In the late 1960s, prior to his first marriage, Nugent fathered a boy and a girl, who he gave up for adoption in infancy. This did not become public knowledge until 2010 or 2011. The siblings were adopted separately and had no contact with one another. The son learned the identity of his birth father in...
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Re: True Colors of a "Christian"

buffalo ·
Originally Posted by Jennifer: GBRK, to go back months and list all the unanswered questions would be to time consuming. Here's one for you though, why do "christians" pick which parts of the bible they will "follow" and toss other parts? If you followed all the instructions in the bible you would be slaying people left and right, owning slaves, and beating your children half to death. And of course none of you want to hear anyone ask about all the contradictions in the bible. Please don't...
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Re: Do fundamentalists spread lies and practice deceit?

Road Puppy ·
Originally Posted by The Nagel: Originally Posted by Road Puppy: Originally Posted by The Nagel: i'm assuming not, that was taken straight from a dictionary website. see below: as·pi·rate 1 : an independent sound \h\ or a character (as the letter h ) representing it 2 : a consonant having aspiration as its final component <in English the \p\ of pit is an aspirate > 3 : material removed by aspiration and in medical terms to aspirate means to suck something into your lungs that isn't...
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Re: Why Did God Create Us?

gbrk ·
Thanks for posting that Buffalo. Although many don't believe the accounts recorded in Scripture of what happened at Crucifixion or that it even happened at all I find one of the most interesting comments being that of the Centurion upon observing Christ Spirit pass, at physical death, and observing the Earth Quake making the statement "Truly this was the Son of God".
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Re: Does Jesus Christ have a Body of Flesh and Bones?

skippy delepepper ·
Sorry, I'm just trying to ask a Religious question on the Religion Forum. This forum lately been getting quite off track. Can we just get along and talk about religion and faith. About the Living Father his living Son Jesus Christ and the living Holy Ghost. The first two with a body. The Holy Ghost as spirit. Your Freind Skippy
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Re: Does Jesus Christ have a Body of Flesh and Bones?

alwilliams767 ·
Only when he lived on this world 2000 years ago. Jesus as he now exists is spirit, not flesh and blood. Just like his Father.
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Re: Does Jesus Christ have a Body of Flesh and Bones?

skippy delepepper ·
I'm reading it different, at least for Jesus. In Luke 24 we read; 39Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have. 41And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered , he said unto them, Have ye here any meat? 42And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb. 43And he took it, and did eat before them. 46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to...
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Re: Does Jesus Christ have a Body of Flesh and Bones?

WINDSONG ·
Originally Posted by alwilliams767: Only when he lived on this world 2000 years ago. Jesus as he now exists is spirit, not flesh and blood. Just like his Father. Al, you are corre ct on one point, Jesus does not have a body of flesh and BLOOD. His body is flesh and BONE. Resurection is the inseperable reconnection of the spirit of man and the human body. Jesus was resurected and the verses stated by Skippy are Bible verses attesting to the fact that Jesus was resurected and indeed had a body...
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Re: Does Jesus Christ have a Body of Flesh and Bones?

INVICTUS ·
Originally Posted by skippy delepepper: Sorry, I'm just trying to ask a Religious question on the Religion Forum. This forum lately been getting quite off track. Can we just get along and talk about religion and faith. About the Living Father his living Son Jesus Christ and the living Holy Ghost. The first two with a body. The Holy Ghost as spirit. Your Freind Skippy Skip----Jesus' spirit lives within his glorified body, the Father doesn't have a glorified body. Never did. The Holy Spirit...
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Re: Does Jesus Christ have a Body of Flesh and Bones?

INVICTUS ·
Originally Posted by WINDSONG: Originally Posted by alwilliams767: Only when he lived on this world 2000 years ago. Jesus as he now exists is spirit, not flesh and blood. Just like his Father. Al, you are corre ct on one point, Jesus does not have a body of flesh and BLOOD. His body is flesh and BONE. Resurection is the inseperable reconnection of the spirit of man and the human body. Jesus was resurected and the verses stated by Skippy are Bible verses attesting to the fact that Jesus was...
 
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