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but here it is: SEVENTH: To enhance freedom and dignity the individual must experience a full range of civil liberties in all societies. This includes freedom of speech and the press, political democracy, the legal right of opposition to governmental policies, fair judicial process, religious liberty, freedom of association, and artistic, scientific, and cultural freedom. It also includes a recognition of an individual's right to die with dignity, euthanasia, and the right to suicide . We...
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" It also includes a recognition of an individual's right to die with dignity, euthanasia, and the right to suicide." I don't think Lexum understands that there is a difference between euthanasia at suicide. Euthanasia is a cessation of life from the actions of others. Suicide is from the actions of one's self. ow in the world do we live in a world where, if I am diagnosed with a terminal illness and do not wish to face the inevitable pain and suffering, I am not able to make an informed...
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Yes frank lex knows the difference but where does the atheist/humanist draw the line when teaching small children that suicide is an acceptable option? Say a child has a problem fitting in at school, is suicide an option. I think you are stretching to think children should be taught this article of the manifesto. I say it’s child abuse in its most bizarre form being criminal.
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That is NOT a link showing that humanists are teaching children that suicide is OK. You are a liar pure and simple.
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EIGHTH: We are committed to an open and democratic society. We must extend participatory democracy in its true sense to the economy, the school, the family, the workplace, and voluntary associations. Decision-making must be decentralized to include widespread involvement of people at all levels -- social, political, and economic. All persons should have a voice in developing the values and goals that determine their lives. Institutions should be responsive to expressed desires and needs. The...
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ELEVENTH: The principle of moral equality must be furthered through elimination of all discrimination based upon race, religion, sex, age, or national origin. This means equality of opportunity and recognition of talent and merit. Individuals should be encouraged to contribute to their own betterment. If unable, then society should provide means to satisfy their basic economic, health, and cultural needs, including, wherever resources make possible, a minimum guaranteed annual income. We are...
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By all means best your sweat shop would quickly qualify you as a member the this socialist group. Back your li’l ears and jump right in. adot will sign you right up.
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What kind of business do we have and what qualifies it as a sweatshop? And I still need a link to your claim that humanists promote suicide for children and teens. Come on, tell me (ylposubcda).
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No buffalo. I would close my business down before I'd hire illegals. I don't even use companies that employ illegals. Not everyone is dishonest like you are buff.
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i figger if you would wish me dead you are capable of anything.
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Originally Posted by lexum: i figger if you would wish me dead you are capable of anything. Well, that's another thing you can show me, where i wished you dead. RP said the person "attempted" suicide. Not committed. But the truth doesn't matter to you members of the "liars club" and cryabeetus crowd. You're pulling a bill and trying to pull attention away from the fact that you lied. at·tempt·ed , at·tempt·ing , at·tempts 1. To try to perform, make, or achieve: Definition of commit (verb)...
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This is the current and active Humanist manifesto. HUMANISM AND ITS ASPIRATIONS Humanist Manifesto III, a successor to the Humanist Manifesto of 1933* Humanism is a progressive philosophy of life that, without supernaturalism, affirms our ability and responsibility to lead ethical lives of personal fulfillment that aspire to the greater good of humanity. The lifestance of Humanism—guided by reason, inspired by compassion, and informed by experience—encourages us to live life well and fully.
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......a quote from Manifesto III " Life's fulfillment emerges from individual participation in the service of humane ideals. We aim for our fullest possible development and animate our lives with a deep sense of purpose, finding wonder and awe in the joys and beauties of human existence, its challenges and tragedies, and even in the inevitability and finality of death" IF you get a wad of these people and convince them that " Life's fulfillment emerges from individual participation in the...
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From your christian manifesto: Do we not serve our deepest convictions if we decide to end our life at the moment in which its sacredness becomes compromised? IF you get a wad of these people and convince them that " Life's fulfillment emerges from individual participation in the service of humane ideals" and the finality of death, you got yourself some Jim Jones. i would suspect under the right circumstances they might just insist at gunpoint you drink the kool-aide.
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i flew over your place Monday. you need to clean up around it.
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Originally Posted by Bestworking: Destructive cults The People's Temple, led by James Warren (Jim) Jones Background of the Peoples Temple: This was a Christian destructive, doomsday cult founded and led by James Warren Jones (1931-1978). Jim Jones held degrees from Indiana University and Butler University. He was not a Fundamentalist pastor as many reports in the media and the anti-cult movement claim. He belonged to a mainline Christian denomination, having been ordained in the Christian...
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Bestun, is working on her daily quota of lying nash; pay no attention.
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Originally Posted by lexum: Bestun, is working on her daily quota of lying nash; pay no attention. SYBBYDSYCSAFMIILGBTS?
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Originally Posted by Bestworking: Nice try but jones was a "christian". Please see the transcript cited. Jones stated in his own words that he was an atheist. "Off the record, I don’t believe in any loving God. Our people, I would say, are ninety percent atheist." - Jim Jones 1976. "My bishop knows that I’m an atheist. He— He knows that I— I— I recognize only love, when I say— I’ll say, 'God is Love'" - Jim Jones 1976 Both taken from the same FBI tape of a recorded phone conversation. You...
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Funny how all of a sudden you christians start claiming jim jones was an atheist. LOL!!
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Nash, she knows jim jones was an atheist. She is in denial.
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i'm going out to eat with the gang. Don't try and follow me bestcussin'
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Believe me buff, the LAST place I want to be is anywhere around you or your "gang". WYSDBTSYACPHA?
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Originally Posted by lexum: i'm going out to eat with the gang. ________________________ You belong to a gang? I wouldn't go around admitting that if I were you, especially since you claim to be a Christian. But of course, I haven't seen much out of you that indicates Christian.
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I was born a member of a gang. You can’t get in semi. You don’t know signs or passwords passed down from over a hundred years ago. The mission of the gang was to help lo ladies across the street and punish those that push li’l ducks into the water among other things.
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I just read this whole thread for the first time. I think it's hilarious that Jennifer is still calling people liars when SHE is lying about Jim Jones. She has been shown links (she keeps asking for links, but when they prove her wrong, she ignores them.) and still she LIES. She wished that lexum was the one who attempted suicide, then tries to weasel out of it. Jennifer is a lying weasel. But then again, we already knew that, didn't we?
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ono that's why i renamed her 'Bestlying' She has NO shame.
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HISTORY OF JIM JONES I f we want to understand The People's Temple, we must understand it's charismatic leader. So let's take a trip back in memory and see what shaped this man who would become famous for all the wrong reasons. James Warren Jones was born on May 13, 1931 in Lynn, Indiana, the only child of James Thurmond Jones and Lynetta Jones. When he started going to grammar school, he was like all other little children, getting an average of B. During the 3rd and 4th grade, he became a...
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Perfect couple, old insane in the main frame and the cryabeetus queen.
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I'm sorry, but the Wiki link had 116 references, including words out of his own mouth. The stuff Jennifer posted comes from a questionable website that she had to dig to find. She's good at finding obscure, unreliable sources when she wants to back up her lies.
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Had to dig to find? LOLOLOL. Well I sure found it fast for someone that had to "dig".
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Best, there is more Christianity in your big toe than could ever have been in Jim jones
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Jones probably claimed to be a preacher to avoid taxes, just like any other preacher, unless Catholic, then its to find little boy boyfriends.
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Originally Posted by Bestworking: Had to dig to find? LOLOLOL. Well I sure found it fast for someone that had to "dig". ___________________________________________________________________________ Well then, could you tell us the NAME of the website? Clicking on your link didn't tell us anything about the website, who they are, what they are about. No home page available. So, tell us, Jennifer, if it's such a rep u table site, why won't they identify themselves, and why won't you identify them?
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Originally Posted by Bestworking: Originally Posted by lexum: Don’t be so mean and hateful best I’m just trying to have a sensible conversation. What in hell is your problem anyhow? You always have your butt up over your shoulder . Lighten up Mean and hateful? How so? Because I ask you a simple question? If you can't answer, and if you can't provide links for your claims just say so. And while you're at it, show me my "mean and hateful" post. Funny how you and a few others call it mean and...
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Gingee, do you think I care what someone like ono, buffalo aka lexum aka magpie( and about 10 other names that he's been banned under) think about me? Do you honestly think I care what you think? Come on, get real. I'm an atheist, the christians posting here hate atheists(and each other and anyone that doesn't believe like they do). Why would I suck up to you guys when you'd stab me in the back so fast it would make my head spin? Seriously.
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Originally Posted by O No!: Originally Posted by Bestworking: Had to dig to find? LOLOLOL. Well I sure found it fast for someone that had to "dig". ___________________________________________________________________________ Well then, could you tell us the NAME of the website? Clicking on your link didn't tell us anything about the website, who they are, what they are about. No home page available. So, tell us, Jennifer, if it's such a rep u table site, why won't they identify themselves,...
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It's no more of a "disclaimer" than you find on wikipedia. All it says is if you want to add or dispute you can. Anyone can go into wiki and add or change things. But you knew that. BTW buff, where did they or I quote dawkins? You know more about dawkins than I do.
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Originally Posted by Gingee: I just don't understand how so many people could find so many of your posts mean and hateful. You seem so full of love and understanding in your posts. ______________________________________ And how are we supposed to see your post? Do we see/hear the proper spirit or attitude for a Christian? As Matthew 15:18 says, “But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.” Your speech shows what is in your heart. Now,...
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Originally Posted by lexum: best i know more about anything than you do What you know "more" about I wouldn't be interested in.