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Re: new study suggests some people grossly overestimate their political knowledge.
Where are the days where moderate, level headed, sensible Democrats and Republicans made compromises and Americans ALL flourished! ----L. Cranston I believe that even The Shadow knows that sometimes when Republicans compromise all they get are broken promises and knives in the back. Right now, Trump shouldn't even be worrying about building a wall. Dems promised in 1986 they would fund border security if only Reagan would sign an amnesty bill; they lied. Again, Dems promised three times more...
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Thanks, guys. The article didn't need that much proof to back it up. Dire isn't telling all the facts. I'll bet each and every one of those tax cuts was followed by a raise in taxes after the cuts didn't work. I know for a FACT Reagan had to raise taxes, after his cuts, because the revenue didn't show up. Again, that's FACT. Seems like Bush1 got a lot of bad press, from his base, after promising 'no new taxes', then raising taxes.
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Lamont, I suggest you research before commenting. It would reduce your embarrassment. When inaugurated, Reagan inherited a nation with 16 tax brackets — ranging from marginal rates of 14 percent to 70 percent. By 1989, that was down to two brackets — with marginal rates of 15 percent and 28 percent. Plus, the inflation indexing that pushed taxpayers into a higher bracket was removed. The increased revenue I posted was income tax revenue, only. The taxes Reagan increased the Highway Revenue...
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L. Cranston just might be as dumb as Crash.......un huh--
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The Shadow knows.
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Yes, Reagan raised taxes after the 1981 tax cuts and before the 1986 tax bill. I might point out that the increase in payroll taxes were the "Clinton surplus" which was borrowed money (Paying the VISA bill with the MasterCard!) and that even with both the Bush and Clinton tax increases that everyone's tax bills were still lower than before 1986. I might also point out that the surplus for Medicare will soon disappear and Social Security's about 2034 and then benefits will drop.
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It's funny to see the Republicans scramble to cover for the posts they made earlier. The tax bills passed in 82 and 84, together, constituted the largest tax increase in peacetime, in US history. At no point in the history of America have Republican tax breaks done what Republicans said they'd do and today is no different.
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Republican, oh hell no! My beliefs are more libertarian and both parties are nothing but a collection of semi-socialist corporatists arguing over how much control goobermint should have over the means of production and property. I might also note that while the first Bush, Clinton, and Ol'bama tinkered on the edges of the 1986 tax law, they never tried to completely abolish it and go back to the more punitive tax structure that preceded the Reagan era. I also should point out the problem...
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Provenance for this claim, please!
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Dire, I suggest you research before commenting. It would reduce your embarrassment. I used google and read the first couple of articles.
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As is always the case, there usually is a big lie hidden in the "real truth". Most of that 1982 "biggest tax hike ever" was the rescission of future lower tax brackets and not the actual raising of taxes. That is exactly like calling a smaller budget increase than originally planned a budget cut. There were increases of business fees and the reduction of business loophole though along with a gas tax increase. Where the real tax increase was in the increase of payroll taxes that all sides...
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Facts don't contain lies. Facts don't pick sides. Screaming Republicans cut taxes without giving ALL the FACTS is being very deceitful.
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LC said, Facts don't contain lies. Facts don't pick sides. So you're saying the FBI, CIA, most of the Dems in congress, Rinos, the Clintons, spies, FISA judges, the MSM, CNN, NBC, CBS MSNBC, ABC and plenty more where these came from,,,, Don't lie..?? and their facts have been all lies.. You need to calm down, stop screaming, eat another sandwich---
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Lets get your answer straight. You're saying the FBI, CIA, most Democrats, some Republicans, the Clintons, spies (foreign? domestic? ) FISA judges, the Media, and all the other outlets are lying and only a handful of Republicans and Trump tell the truth? Is that truly your stance?
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I don't recall the part about only a handful of Republicans and Trump tell the truth? So now I include you as a liar as well--- But you already knew the fact, if you're liberal you're lying ----
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Ok, so who's telling the truth to you? No Republicans? All other Republicans? Trump? Is Trump telling you the truth? Please, be clear, who exactly is telling you the truth?
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Yes, facts are facts, except when from politicians and their camp followers. If I might cite an article from the liberal magazine Slate about the 1982 Tax bill: " O n the other hand, most of Dole’s tax increase was actually the partial repeal of future tax cuts that had been enacted in 1981 but had not yet taken place. Despite Dole’s bill, taxpayers received more than $375 billion in tax cuts over the following three years. (This did not deter Dole’s supply-side critics, led by Jack Kemp,...
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Perhaps you should tell the Treasury Department. Facts don't have a side, they're just facts. Revenue effects of major tax bills since 1968. Table 2. Page 3. https://www.treasury.gov/resou...s/WP81-Table2013.pdf
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IOW, can't produce the evidence.
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Not sure about their methodology, but looking at the goobermint's revenue figures: or https://www.usgovernmentrevenu...USb_20s1li011lcn_F0f Except for the recession caused by the Fed wringing out inflation, I would say that revenue grew over the Reagan era. But I guess with enough political "what if" assumptions from the politicians who asked for the Treasury report, anything can happen.
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Forgot this:
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IOW, you're too lazy or too deceitful to look them up and admit it?
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Nice attempt , but who is arguing that revenue didn't increase? Taxes were raised almost every year after the cuts of 81. Let me put it in terms even Dire can understand. Tax cuts of 81, around 2.8% of gdp total of tax increases until 1990 2.9% of gdp. Republicans made huge cuts in 81 and spent the next 8 years increasing taxes trying to gain revenue.
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Give the link! nothing to do with lazy or deceitful! Will not spend time attempting to analyze the wrong thing.
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Uh, tax rates were slashed in 1986 or did you forget that. I might note that even Clinton and Ol'bama never hiked rates back to the pre-1986 levels.
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You can't find the link? Why does Stanky have no problem finding the link?
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The chart I referenced shows exactly what happened , according to the Treasury Dept. with those tax cuts in 86. Can you not read the chart? Do you not understand the facts? The first year or two they may have produced revenue, but by year 4 they were having a negative effect on revenue. Check the facts. Plain and simple.
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"new study suggests some people grossly overestimate their political knowledge" . Yes, they are called democrats, liberals, progressives and socialists. Toss in a touch of communist.
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And we have a new Republican with their first attempt at proving the article to be correct.
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The real facts are this chart: In spite of the fact that people kept more of their own money, revenue still grew greatly during the years that the first iteration of tax cuts were in place. Even though future years cuts were rescinded, people still had the lower rates of the first year (max 50%). Again, if the the 1986 tax bill was so bad, why did both Clinton and Ol'bama essentially keep the Reagan cuts? The top rate started out at 38.5% before dropping to 28% during Reagan-Bush before...
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So, you just don't like the report and your biggest concern is why Democrats didn't try to go back to a 70% tax bracket? Well, the only answer I can come up with is, running a campaign on raising taxes wouldn't be a popular idea, would it.
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Problem with the graph is it shows "total government revenue," not just tax receipts. Its the mandatory vs. budgeted revenue/spending. Total revenue includes all taxes (personal and corporate income taxes, tariff and excise tax revenue, which is the budgeted spending Congress must authorize annually). Versus, other revenue, including Medicare and Social Security contributions from employees and employers, about a dozen pension trust fund contributions, including but not limited to two civil...
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I gave my totals in everything from charts to %gdp. This illustrates why facts don't matter to Republicans.
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You made a major mistake as to what you were commenting on! Thus, causing a major misunderstanding. Facts are facts, yes! Mach 1 is a fact. Warp 1 is a fact. However, Warp 1 is always faster then Mach 1.
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As always, one little wording change to make what you post completely false... Warp 1 is always faster THAN Mach 1. See, one doesn't follow the other. Just like what Republicans say and what Republicans do. One doesn't follow the other.
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Contenduhh, still don't understand?
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Still being deceitful?
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I carefully explained the error you made. Federal appropriations law is complex. If, you can't understand after explanation, I see no reason to further continue.
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Again, I gave my totals in everything from charts to %gdp. The facts show taxes were raised to generate income because the tax cuts failed to generate the income claimed by Republicans. The same holds true today as in the 1980s. Your choice to play semantics instead of being truthful speaks volumes to your character. The Republican tax cuts of last year stand to add 1.8TRILLION$ to our National Debt in the next 8 years. *CBO report.
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I believe The Shadow 's CBO report is already blown. While CBO guesstimates generally fall apart after a couple of years, the one you cite fell apart in less than a year. The guesstimate called for GDP numbers as feecal as the Ol-bama era's pitiful average. But cheer up, the Federal Reserve is trying to raise rates and unwind the $4.5 Trillion of Quantitative Easing intended to rev up the stagnant Ol'bama economy. https://www.reuters.com/articl...-hikes-idUSKCN1L728Q As to "facts" about...
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I'm reasonably sure the CBO and the Treasure Dept. have the facts and don't really care that you don't like the reports. You can have your own opinion but you can't have your own facts.
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Actually the CBO provides crystal ball projections with political overtones (assumptions usually given by the requesting party); Treasury deals with raw data and sometimes political spin. The analytic part of the Fed deals with what actually happened and other departments will produce both good and questionable studies ( I believe it was the Boston branch that created the erroneous report that inspired the laws in 1994 that made buying a house too easy which factored into the 2008 bust.).
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Judge orders Trump campaign to produce evidence of voter fraud in Pennsylvania
(CNN) A federal judge in Pennsylvania told the Trump campaign and the Republican Party that they must produce evidence they have of vote-by-mail fraud in the state by Friday. The judge's order, in a high-profile case about vote-by-mail in the battleground state, essentially forces the Trump campaign to try to back up President Donald Trump's false claims about massive voter fraud in postal voting. "The Court finds that instances of voter fraud are relevant to the claims and defenses in this...
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While forum Republicans scream about mail-in voter fraud, the Trump campaign can't seem to produce one shred of evidence.