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Re: Manipulated Nancy Pelosi video may be a sign of things to come in the 2020 election cycle

1130 ·
sign of things to come? been going on for ever,,, either party standing in front of a camera telling lies. remember there are 3 sides to a story,, her side, his side and the truth. Sadly as much as social media is wrong, it is not any more wrong than media. Actually I read more comments because often they point out the truth more than who ever is reporting. Biggest example that comes to thought is Reid caught on a lie about Romney. His response was "oh well it is already out there". Rather...
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Re: Manipulated Nancy Pelosi video may be a sign of things to come in the 2020 election cycle

Stanky ·
It's going to be lots of fun six months from now. I think opposition research detectives are already going through candidates trash and washed up skanks from Allred's Rolodex probably are practicing their lines even now.
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Manipulated Nancy Pelosi video may be a sign of things to come in the 2020 election cycle

L. Cranston ·
Major digital companies have reacted differently to slow the viral spread of a subtly manipulated video of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi – a video that could be a harbinger of the political digital fakery to come in 2020 and beyond. A video that appeared to have been digitally altered to slow the speech of the House Speaker at a recent public appearance, making her appear impaired, made the rounds on social media and major digital platforms in recent days. YouTube said it had removed versions...
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new study suggests some people grossly overestimate their political knowledge.

L. Cranston ·
The Dunning-Kruger Effect May Help Explain Trump's Support A new study suggests some people grossly overestimate their political knowledge. Posted Aug 22, 2018 In the past, some prominent psychologists have explained President Donald Trump ’s unwavering support by alluding to a well-established psychological phenomenon known as the “Dunning-Kruger effect.” The effect is a type of cognitive bias , where people with little expertise or ability assume they have superior expertise or ability.
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Re: new study suggests some people grossly overestimate their political knowledge.

HIFLYER2 ·
You mean like the false narrative that ANTIFA is an anti fascism organization or that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is intelligent? Anyone with a education can see ANTIFA is violent against anyone who does not share their beliefs and do not tolerate them, sort of like Fascist. Well all anyone has to do is listen to the new House Representative and know she does not have a clue. Seems liberals have the Dunning Kruger effect.
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direstraits ·
Before I retired, frequently, I interviewed prospective new employees. I was astounded at the lack of knowledge of college graduates. Those interviewed for audit positions were well grounded. The liberal arts graduates were, near worthless.
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direstraits ·
The recent doxxing of an Antifa leader was quite enlightening. One, Joe Alcoff had two other nom de guerres he operated under. He's a communist, who advocates for extreme violence. Works with Democrat politicians, was interviewed on MSNBC, and writes for several national publications. His CV reads like that of an 1960s radical -- traveled internationally to work with other reds.
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1130 ·
nice democrat article or study? This is true, however it goes both ways. Many follow democrat leaders blindly. Republicans in congress don't just follow the party, while democrats stick together and vote their party line (with the exception of WV). There seems to be several republican elected that might actually be democrats in disguise, such as Flake and Romney for example. With that said, many people fall into that a bit of knowledge but not the whole story. The difference being the...
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direstraits ·
Flake meets the covert Democrat description. Mittens is 25 years behind and a slimeball.
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L. Cranston ·
Thanks, guys, for providing proof of the information contained in the article.
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Mr. Hooberbloob ·
Roaring economy, low unemployment, real action on illegal immigration, ISIS decimated, liberals losing their minds (ok I'm assuming they have brains, but I could be wrong). What's not to like about Trump?
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HIFLYER2 ·
Yea i'll stick with my peeps. Here are your finest! https://www.intellectualtakeou...9GeV9fpZRGdvVq2QmIwQ
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Mr. Hooberbloob ·
To be a liberal, you must first be uninformed. Secondly, you must remain uninformed. Thirdly, you must vote for those among you who are the most uninformed.
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direstraits ·
When we are born, we are tabula rasa -- a blank slate. Most of us learn and grow in intellect and some of us remain Democrats.
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Mr. Hooberbloob ·
And my personal happiness. TDS is a hoot to watch in all of it's magnificent glory.
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Mr. Hooberbloob ·
Amer I CAN! Republ I CAN! Democ RATS!
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L. Cranston ·
What none of the Republicans seem to realize, is they're backing up the facts in the article with every post. Why do the most uninformed voters believe they are the most intelligent voters. Not knowing you don't have a grasp on the facts, but constantly trying to explain why Republicans are right. It's the Republican way.
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Mr. Hooberbloob ·
LOL, conversely, uniformed voters post meaningless articles that were written solely to fit an agenda outcome rather than a factual outcome. Not one person on her is trying to "explain" why Republicans are right. The wonderful state of our nation since Trump took office does that job nicely, not a word needs to be spoken. Now descend back into the basement from which thou came and patiently wait for the next round of Bagel Bites that your mom will soon deliver, I'm sure.
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Kraven ·
What I've asked of any liberal for the past 3-4 years was to explain why they were liberal, just a few tenets of their reasons of choice or were they born that way. Appears liberals not sure why or it's a secret. It's not that Republicans are right but the only logical way of life is the conservative way.
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direstraits ·
Lamont, I've viewed the activities of three Democrat politicians presently in the news. Their views are out of touch with reality. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (AOC) is currently the new thing with the press. Despite an economics major, she has no idea what basic economics statistics represent. She advocates numerous utopian dreams, but no idea how to finance them. For example, her Medicare for all plan would require a doubling of federal revenues -- not just income tax, but Medicare and Social...
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L. Cranston ·
Dire, What you fail to realize is that extremists exist on both sides of the political spectrum. For every example you provide of an extreme Democrat, I can provide an extreme Republican to match. What good does that do? What exactly do we gain from writing long posts, which nobody cares to read, about politicians who haven't the concept or ability to help their constituents? The facts show Democrat's policies are not affordable without major tax increases. The facts also show Republican...
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direstraits ·
As to facts, of the Democrats I've cited, one is new, untried and ignorant of economics -- AOC. The other two, Newsom and de Blasio, are experienced politicians, with years of experience. As to trickle down -- when JFK used "a rising tide raises all boats" Democrats hailed it. There are three examples of reducing taxes, resulting in significant revenue increases. None lead to major recessions. The reductions under JFK/LBJ and Reagan lead to economic booms. The one under George W. Bush did...
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Stanky ·
Where are the days where moderate, level headed, sensible Democrats and Republicans made compromises and Americans ALL flourished! ----L. Cranston I believe that even The Shadow knows that sometimes when Republicans compromise all they get are broken promises and knives in the back. Right now, Trump shouldn't even be worrying about building a wall. Dems promised in 1986 they would fund border security if only Reagan would sign an amnesty bill; they lied. Again, Dems promised three times more...
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L. Cranston ·
Thanks, guys. The article didn't need that much proof to back it up. Dire isn't telling all the facts. I'll bet each and every one of those tax cuts was followed by a raise in taxes after the cuts didn't work. I know for a FACT Reagan had to raise taxes, after his cuts, because the revenue didn't show up. Again, that's FACT. Seems like Bush1 got a lot of bad press, from his base, after promising 'no new taxes', then raising taxes.
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direstraits ·
Lamont, I suggest you research before commenting. It would reduce your embarrassment. When inaugurated, Reagan inherited a nation with 16 tax brackets — ranging from marginal rates of 14 percent to 70 percent. By 1989, that was down to two brackets — with marginal rates of 15 percent and 28 percent. Plus, the inflation indexing that pushed taxpayers into a higher bracket was removed. The increased revenue I posted was income tax revenue, only. The taxes Reagan increased the Highway Revenue...
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Re: new study suggests some people grossly overestimate their political knowledge.

Kraven ·
L. Cranston just might be as dumb as Crash.......un huh--
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Stanky ·
Yes, Reagan raised taxes after the 1981 tax cuts and before the 1986 tax bill. I might point out that the increase in payroll taxes were the "Clinton surplus" which was borrowed money (Paying the VISA bill with the MasterCard!) and that even with both the Bush and Clinton tax increases that everyone's tax bills were still lower than before 1986. I might also point out that the surplus for Medicare will soon disappear and Social Security's about 2034 and then benefits will drop.
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L. Cranston ·
It's funny to see the Republicans scramble to cover for the posts they made earlier. The tax bills passed in 82 and 84, together, constituted the largest tax increase in peacetime, in US history. At no point in the history of America have Republican tax breaks done what Republicans said they'd do and today is no different.
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Stanky ·
Republican, oh hell no! My beliefs are more libertarian and both parties are nothing but a collection of semi-socialist corporatists arguing over how much control goobermint should have over the means of production and property. I might also note that while the first Bush, Clinton, and Ol'bama tinkered on the edges of the 1986 tax law, they never tried to completely abolish it and go back to the more punitive tax structure that preceded the Reagan era. I also should point out the problem...
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Re: new study suggests some people grossly overestimate their political knowledge.

direstraits ·
Provenance for this claim, please!
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L. Cranston ·
Dire, I suggest you research before commenting. It would reduce your embarrassment. I used google and read the first couple of articles.
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Stanky ·
As is always the case, there usually is a big lie hidden in the "real truth". Most of that 1982 "biggest tax hike ever" was the rescission of future lower tax brackets and not the actual raising of taxes. That is exactly like calling a smaller budget increase than originally planned a budget cut. There were increases of business fees and the reduction of business loophole though along with a gas tax increase. Where the real tax increase was in the increase of payroll taxes that all sides...
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Re: new study suggests some people grossly overestimate their political knowledge.

L. Cranston ·
Facts don't contain lies. Facts don't pick sides. Screaming Republicans cut taxes without giving ALL the FACTS is being very deceitful.
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Kraven ·
LC said, Facts don't contain lies. Facts don't pick sides. So you're saying the FBI, CIA, most of the Dems in congress, Rinos, the Clintons, spies, FISA judges, the MSM, CNN, NBC, CBS MSNBC, ABC and plenty more where these came from,,,, Don't lie..?? and their facts have been all lies.. You need to calm down, stop screaming, eat another sandwich---
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Re: new study suggests some people grossly overestimate their political knowledge.

L. Cranston ·
Lets get your answer straight. You're saying the FBI, CIA, most Democrats, some Republicans, the Clintons, spies (foreign? domestic? ) FISA judges, the Media, and all the other outlets are lying and only a handful of Republicans and Trump tell the truth? Is that truly your stance?
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Re: new study suggests some people grossly overestimate their political knowledge.

Kraven ·
I don't recall the part about only a handful of Republicans and Trump tell the truth? So now I include you as a liar as well--- But you already knew the fact, if you're liberal you're lying ----
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Re: new study suggests some people grossly overestimate their political knowledge.

L. Cranston ·
Ok, so who's telling the truth to you? No Republicans? All other Republicans? Trump? Is Trump telling you the truth? Please, be clear, who exactly is telling you the truth?
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Stanky ·
Yes, facts are facts, except when from politicians and their camp followers. If I might cite an article from the liberal magazine Slate about the 1982 Tax bill: " O n the other hand, most of Dole’s tax increase was actually the partial repeal of future tax cuts that had been enacted in 1981 but had not yet taken place. Despite Dole’s bill, taxpayers received more than $375 billion in tax cuts over the following three years. (This did not deter Dole’s supply-side critics, led by Jack Kemp,...
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Re: new study suggests some people grossly overestimate their political knowledge.

L. Cranston ·
Perhaps you should tell the Treasury Department. Facts don't have a side, they're just facts. Revenue effects of major tax bills since 1968. Table 2. Page 3. https://www.treasury.gov/resou...s/WP81-Table2013.pdf
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direstraits ·
IOW, can't produce the evidence.
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Stanky ·
Not sure about their methodology, but looking at the goobermint's revenue figures: or https://www.usgovernmentrevenu...USb_20s1li011lcn_F0f Except for the recession caused by the Fed wringing out inflation, I would say that revenue grew over the Reagan era. But I guess with enough political "what if" assumptions from the politicians who asked for the Treasury report, anything can happen.
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Re: new study suggests some people grossly overestimate their political knowledge.

L. Cranston ·
IOW, you're too lazy or too deceitful to look them up and admit it?
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Re: new study suggests some people grossly overestimate their political knowledge.

L. Cranston ·
Nice attempt , but who is arguing that revenue didn't increase? Taxes were raised almost every year after the cuts of 81. Let me put it in terms even Dire can understand. Tax cuts of 81, around 2.8% of gdp total of tax increases until 1990 2.9% of gdp. Republicans made huge cuts in 81 and spent the next 8 years increasing taxes trying to gain revenue.
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direstraits ·
Give the link! nothing to do with lazy or deceitful! Will not spend time attempting to analyze the wrong thing.
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Stanky ·
Uh, tax rates were slashed in 1986 or did you forget that. I might note that even Clinton and Ol'bama never hiked rates back to the pre-1986 levels.
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L. Cranston ·
You can't find the link? Why does Stanky have no problem finding the link?
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L. Cranston ·
The chart I referenced shows exactly what happened , according to the Treasury Dept. with those tax cuts in 86. Can you not read the chart? Do you not understand the facts? The first year or two they may have produced revenue, but by year 4 they were having a negative effect on revenue. Check the facts. Plain and simple.
 
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