20 Reasons to Abandon Christianity

Any list that cites Wesboro Baptist Church in support of an argument against Christianity in general is weak stuff indeed.

Out of curiosity, I clicked on No. 17, since the "gay" community often makes this claim.  The example of the execution of Edward II is based on information that can not be verified and is very likely false, according to re****ble historians.  It is the Thirteenth-Century equivalent of a bogus viral e-mail.

http://www.timeshighereducatio...asp?storycode=176011

I know as well as anybody how much you christians love homosexuals. You can read that "love" in threads here. And whether or not you like it, westboro church does exist, they do all the horrible things they're accused of doing.

 The example of the execution of Edward II is based on information that can not be verified and is very likely false, according to re****ble historians.

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Likely to be false? Could be, but given their grisly history it's very very believable. If it didn't happen you have to wonder why the story would have been fabricated. A warning to homosexuals maybe? Who knows. Likely to be false does not mean it is false, and as I posted, given the history it very well could be true. They loved nasty executions.

If you don't like Christians or Christianity maybe it's you that has the problem.  They don't seem obsessed with you or what you believe.

Ronnie get TWO thumbs up !!

You must not know any christians.

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Now that you have made that weak-as-water reply to what I posted about Edward II, you might wish to try to respond to what I said about the weakness of any argument against Christianity that relies on the antics of the  Westboro Baptist Church. You conveniently skipped that one, Bw.

No I didn't "skip" the westboro church, go back and read my post. As for the reply about Edward, you have no idea if it's true or not, not even the brits know if it's true or not. How is it "weak" to say it certainly could have happened?  Is it because everyone is just supposed to take YOUR word for things? Go argue with them about it.

"The Finest in Rabble-Rousing Reading?" And it's condemning Christianity? Hmmmm....

"The Finest in Rabble-Rousing Reading?"

Seems to be working.

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 Who'da thunk it. I thought this was going to be a stand up comedy routine.

I've just converted bittern'poo's last post to Ebonics.  Does that make sense, no, but it's more fun than obsessing about the absence of God. 

"Yo Now dat you gots made dat weak-as-water reply ta what ah posted 'boutEdward II, you might wish ta try ta respond ta what ah said 'boutthe weakness o' any argument against Christianity dat relies on da antics o' da Westboro Baptist Church. You conveniently skipped dat one, Bw Jus' like Orenthawl James"

but it's more fun than obsessing about the absence of God

What about the constant obsessing about saying there is a god? 

Up what?

The problem I’ve had with this belief in Christianity movement started way back when I was in high school getting ready to play my first varsity basketball game. The preacher was praying for us to be given the strength and ability to triumph over our adversary in the locker room next door. Now having been taught to that point that there is only one god I found myself wondering who they were praying to and if it was the same god how were we both going to receive this blessing being asked of him. If indeed it really was a him. Started me down a whole new investigative path for answers. The journey has been an eye opener.

I read the list. From my experience, every item on the list is wrong. Nothing more than stereotypes.

Stereotypes? You're kidding right? 

Congratulations you are a atheist or agnostic or whatever.  Here is a cookie.

Oh wow ronnie, such sharp wit AND a picture of a cookie. How did you do that? 

Years of not giving a **** about your belief system(s)

You don't care eh? That's why you post on this thread and go to the trouble of making a feeble attempt at humor, because you don't care? LOL!

It's really no trouble but I appreciate you acknowledging my efforts.

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You mentioned them, but you did NOT respond to what I wrote about them: "Any list that cites Wesboro Baptist Church in support of an argument against Christianity in general is weak stuff indeed."

That's your opinion. I don't know what kind of reply you wanted but I gave you the one that is true. They're a church whether or not you like it. Nothing weak about that, it's the truth. I don't ever see a lot of condemnation from other churches about what they do, and I think a whole lot of christians think, "ohhhhh, lol, look at them, well they are right you know, gawd does hate f***s. It's their own fault for choosing to be like that".

1, 3, 4, 6, 7, 18, & 19 is only a few of the reasons I walked away from Christianity. The lying, cheating, pretending, & many other things going on within the church wasn't for me. I wanted honestly, realness, & compassion for others.

If Heaven really does exist, then I figure I have more of a chance of going there than those playing church.

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 “My moronic sister-in-law once told me that God found her parking spots near the front door at Wal-mart! Years later, when she developed a brain tumor, I concluded that God must have gotten tired of finding parking places for her and gave her the tumor so that she could get handicapped plates."

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I loved that because I have heard people make such idiotic statements. 

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 Actually, without Christ, neither you or anyone else has any chance at all.

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 Semi's problem is that she has allowed bitterness to devour her to such a degree that it has totally ruined her persona the bitterness comes out in all of her posts. If she is not willing to deal whatever it is/was that has caused her to go this direction, it will totally destroy her.

Oh brother.

No, Extra. Semi has a deep desire to figure things out. She is not in the least "bitter", just not quite sure what she thinks about God. God WANTS her to find Him again, but He won't force her. He will though, wait for her.

Actually, without Christ, neither you or anyone else has any chance at all.

Without Christ, we have the chance to live a fulfilling, whole, good, meaningful life.  Without Christ, we can live a life based on knowledge, honesty, true charity, purposeful curiosity, and joy.  Without Christ, we can live for the sake of life, not some bogus promise of an afterlife for which there is no evidence other than the accumulated superstitions of ignoramuses over thousands of years since our pre-scientific time.

With Christ, one lives a life of servitude, obedience, predetermined philosophy, ignorance, cruelty, hatred, and bigotry.

I'm happy to take my chances as a free soul.

DF

What you "think" about how Christians view the Westboro Church's action is not worth a wad of snail spit.  You are apparently doomed to "think" the worst, however unlikely it might be, in order to bolster confidence in your shaky, untenable position. If you are halfway awake and alert, you have to know that Westboro's actions have been widely condemned by many, mayn churches and many, many individual Christians.  To "think" otherwise is absurd--and truly pitiful..

Gee contenduh, for someone that keeps telling us how smart they are you don't seem to be able to understand anything. 

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Never thought of it that way before, you could be right.

If He does exist & is wonderful, it would be nice to know how He can call those people His that are not so wonderful.

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The bitterness comes out in my post because I mean for it to. I don't tiptoe around anyone. My friends/family will tell you I don't pretend with anyone. I am exactly what you see.

I have dealt with it, now I don't know what to do with it, or if it's real or not.

The only thing that could destroy me is something happening to my husband, my children or my grandbabies.

BTW, don't concern yourself with me. You need to deal with your own shortcomings. For someone that claims to be a Christian, it sure doesn't come across in your post. All I read is hate & bitterness toward your fellow man.

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I didn't know snails could spit.

What you "think" about how Christians view the Westboro Church's action is not worth a wad of snail spit.  You are apparently doomed to "think" the worst, however unlikely it might be, in order to bolster confidence in your shaky, untenable position. If you are halfway awake and alert, you have to know that Westboro's actions have been widely condemned by many, mayn churches and many, many individual Christians.  To "think" otherwise is absurd--and truly pitiful..

What does the WBC do that is against scripture?  Your book says to hate homosexuals.  Your book says that blind obedience is required for salvation?

Why is the WBC wrong?

DF