I love to see O'Reilly put in his place.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLPuGuaZTx8
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quote:Originally posted by one who posts:
I love to see O'Reilly put in his place.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLPuGuaZTx8
quote:Originally posted by interventor:
Yes, we need to control our borders. But, this was a cat fight between two media wh0rez! Fun to watch.
quote:Originally posted by one who posts:
I love to see O'Reilly put in his place.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLPuGuaZTx8
Do need a license to drive, issued by their country of residence. Are required to have insurance to register cars, and may register the car in their country of residence. Can only get social security benefits if they have valid social security accounts (and can't get such a thing if they are illegals) You can live in a house with 15 or 20 other people if you want. Are Arrested for laws broken, and can be deported for all manner of violations that would not even appear on your record.quote:Originally posted by walter096:
Lets see if I have this right...illegals don`t need a license to drive,don`t need insurance coverage,can`t be arrested for any laws broken..can get Social Security benefits, free health care,free public education..live 15-20 in a home..what is the normal,law abiding citizens to do? Answer..nothing! Bush(whom I voterd for)and the congress have no gonads to do anything. Side story..had a friend whose 18 year old son was hit by an illegal that ran a stop sign...totaled his car..the illegal ran away, his car had no tag, and the police says there is nothing they can do..so folks, just get use to it...
Right on USMC. The issue is not the status of the driver, it's the level of intoxication.quote:Originally posted by usmc35630:
I just watched this clip last night. First off I tend to lean toward the "right" and I have always voted Republican. However I agree with Geraldo; this had nothing to do with his citizenship status. It had everything to do with a person drinking too much and getting behind the wheel.
Geraldo had mentioned that the Commonwealth of Virginia had 372 DUI fatalities last year. Why weren't those mentioned?
Well I believe the reason is: that it doesn't sell. Those other people and there fmailies suffered and died just the same no matter who was behind the wheel.
But their stories won't sell the papers like an illegal immigrant's will.
That's my story and I'm sticking too it...
quote:Originally posted by Go Nads:
KS, please remove your rose colored glasses.
quote:Originally posted by walter096:
Lets see if I have this right...illegals don`t need a license to drive,don`t need insurance coverage,can`t be arrested for any laws broken..can get Social Security benefits, free health care,free public education..live 15-20 in a home..what is the normal,law abiding citizens to do? Answer..nothing! Bush(whom I voterd for)and the congress have no gonads to do anything. Side story..had a friend whose 18 year old son was hit by an illegal that ran a stop sign...totaled his car..the illegal ran away, his car had no tag, and the police says there is nothing they can do..so folks, just get use to it...
Deep Fat, you may be correct, but I have tried Googling this, "2006 (First Quarter) INS/FBI Statistical Report on Undocumented Immigrants" I get several dozen blogs, all with this dataquote:Originally posted by DeepFat:
If you want to talk about bigotry, look no further than Geraldo's statement that illegals commit less crime, per capita, than citizens.
All my data, and I keep up, indicates otherwise.
Our Southern California jails are stuffed with 40%+ illegals, and illegals amount to about 30% of state prison inmates.
Then there's the unreported crime. Same as Alabama, when an illegal is involved in an auto accident, the police do nothing. They could, but it's a lot of work for what they consider a low-priority issue, so they don't.
O'Reilly may have a logical weakness in his argument, but essentially it's true. About half the traffic in So Cal is unlicensed and/or uninsured, many of them illegals. If they weren't here, there would be far fewer accidents and more accountability.
DF
But, I can find none of it at FBI sites or at the INS site. CAN YOU TELL ME THE PLACE THIS DATA IS STORED?quote:INS/FBI Statistical Report on Undocumented Immigrants
2006 (First Quarter) INS/FBI Statistical Report on Undocumented Immigrants
CRIME STATISTICS 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.
83% of warrants for murder in Phoenix are for illegal aliens.
86% of warrants for murder in Albuquerque are for illegal aliens.
75% of those on the most wanted list in Los Angeles, Phoenix and Albuquerque are illegal aliens.
24.9% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally
40.1% of all inmates in Arizona detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally
48.2% of all inmates in New Mexico detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally
29% (630,000) convicted illegal alien felons fill our state and federal prisons at a cost of $1.6 billion annually
53% plus of all investigated burglaries reported in California, New Mexico, Nevada, Arizona and Texas are perpetrated by illegal aliens.
50% plus of all gang members in Los Angeles are illegal aliens from south of the border.
71% plus of all apprehended cars stolen in 2005 in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada and California were stolen by Illegal aliens or “transport coyotes".
47% of cited/stopped drivers in California have no license, no insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 47%, 92% are illegal aliens.
63% of cited/stopped drivers in Arizona have no license, no insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 63%, 97% are illegal aliens
66% of cited/stopped drivers in New Mexico have no license, no insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 66% 98% are illegal aliens.
BIRTH STATISTICS 380,000 plus “anchor babies” were born in the U.S. in 2005 to illegal alien parents, making 380,000 babies automatically U.S.citizens.
97.2% of all costs incurred from those births were paid by the American taxpayers.
66% plus of all births in California are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal whose births were paid for by taxpayers
So, you wasted my time by saying "In California," and meaning "in LA County Hospital." There is a difference, LA county hospital is totally government funded. Any Births there that are paid by OTHER than government funds are the exception.quote:Originally posted by DeepFat:
Ed,
I would find it difficult to believe that the Federal Gov't is cooking the books to make illegals look more harmful than they are, considering the President's affection for them.
2/3 of all births in L.A. County Hospital are indeed to illegal Mexican women. I doubt the statistic carries statewide. They come across in a state of high ripeness to give birth to "anchor babies". It's an old situation that no one will address, lest the accusation of racism come up.
DF
quote:71% plus of all apprehended cars stolen in 2005 in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada and California were stolen by Illegal aliens or “transport coyotes".
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NOTICE, I HAVE NO IDEA IF ANY OF THE ABOVE STATISTICS ARE TRUE, I JUST MADE THEM UP. I WILL DENY THAT THEY ARE BASED ON ANY SCIENTIFIC DATA IF ASKED, AND WILL NOW AND HENCEFORTH CLAIM AND ATTEST THAT THEY ARE FICTIONAL, AND WHOLE CLOTH CREATIONS OF MY FERTILE IMAGINATION.
quote:Originally posted by Go Nads:
One who post and EdKit, you are an idiot as is Geraldo! O'Reilly is correct and the left wing, open borders Geraldo is wrong. As more criminal aliens cross the border the more dangerous it will become for us. We have an estimated 20 million criminal aliens in the USA and it is scary ! We don't need idiots like Geraldo and you rationalizing for them.
The director of the movie " A Chrsitmas Story " was also killed by an illegal alien's reckless driving recently.
Your idiot president Bush and the rest of or crooked government has recently made it legal for Mexican trucks to run or streets and highways unchecked. We are living in dangerous times!
When you sling the term BIGOT or RACIST you show your ignorance.
380 thousand plus anchor babies per year. THAT IS AN AVERAGE OF OVER 20 A DAY PER STATE.quote:Originally posted by DeepFat:
Ed,
I would find it difficult to believe that the Federal Gov't is cooking the books to make illegals look more harmful than they are, considering the President's affection for them.
2/3 of all births in L.A. County Hospital are indeed to illegal Mexican women. I doubt the statistic carries statewide. They come across in a state of high ripeness to give birth to "anchor babies". It's an old situation that no one will address, lest the accusation of racism come up.
DF
The Idiot Bush Administration IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE REGULATIONS ALLOWING MEXICAN TRUCKS INTO THE USA. The agreement was reached DECADES AGO.quote:Originally posted by Go Nads:
One who post and EdKit, you are an idiot as is Geraldo! O'Reilly is correct and the left wing, open borders Geraldo is wrong. As more criminal aliens cross the border the more dangerous it will become for us. We have an estimated 20 million criminal aliens in the USA and it is scary ! We don't need idiots like Geraldo and you rationalizing for them.
The director of the movie " A Chrsitmas Story " was also killed by an illegal alien's reckless driving recently.
Your idiot president Bush and the rest of or crooked government has recently made it legal for Mexican trucks to run or streets and highways unchecked. We are living in dangerous times!
When you sling the term BIGOT or RACIST you show your ignorance.
NOTE: A Mexican tourist, who flies from Mexico City to Orlando Florida, and rents a car, must have a valid Mexican, or International drivers license. He is permitted to drive, and be in the USA as a tourist. ANY Mexican who enters the USA through a port of entry, either by ground transportation, including his own personal car or by Sea or Air, Unless he is found to be in possession of a PAYROLL CHECK with his name on it the act of driving a private car does not indicate he is in the country illegally.quote:Originally posted by DeepFat:
If you want to talk about bigotry, look no further than Geraldo's statement that illegals commit less crime, per capita, than citizens.
All my data, and I keep up, indicates otherwise.
Our Southern California jails are stuffed with 40%+ illegals, and illegals amount to about 30% of state prison inmates.
Then there's the unreported crime. Same as Alabama, when an illegal is involved in an auto accident, the police do nothing. They could, but it's a lot of work for what they consider a low-priority issue, so they don't.
O'Reilly may have a logical weakness in his argument, but essentially it's true. About half the traffic in So Cal is unlicensed and/or uninsured, many of them illegals. If they weren't here, there would be far fewer accidents and more accountability.
DF
quote:Citizens and permanent residents of Mexico generally must have a nonimmigrant visa or Border Crossing Card (also known as a "Laser Visa"). The Border Crossing Card, Form DSP-150 is a biometric, machine readable, visitor B1-B2 visa/Border Crossing Card that may be used to enter the U.S. from within the Western Hemisphere. http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/without/without_1260.html
quote:Originally posted by country:
When a mexican hit my daghters car we were told by florence police theres nothing he could do not even a ticket for leaving the wreck then he was sueing us luckly he got busted for pounds of cocaine an pot befor it came to a head.just lucky he's got biger fish to fry now.
quote:So, you wasted my time by saying "In California," and meaning "in LA County Hospital." There is a difference, LA county hospital is totally government funded.
quote:Originally posted by one who posts:quote:Originally posted by Go Nads:
One who post and EdKit, you are an idiot as is Geraldo! O'Reilly is correct and the left wing, open borders Geraldo is wrong. As more criminal aliens cross the border the more dangerous it will become for us. We have an estimated 20 million criminal aliens in the USA and it is scary ! We don't need idiots like Geraldo and you rationalizing for them.
The director of the movie " A Chrsitmas Story " was also killed by an illegal alien's reckless driving recently.
Your idiot president Bush and the rest of or crooked government has recently made it legal for Mexican trucks to run or streets and highways unchecked. We are living in dangerous times!
When you sling the term BIGOT or RACIST you show your ignorance.
Sorry, an overwhelming majority is against you on this one. First, Bush is not my president. Secondly, Geraldo is hardly a leftist. Lastly, I'm not slinging any terms, I am purposefully labelling those who absolutely deserve it. Your position is proof that you, too, deserve the label. We are hardly "rationalizing" criminals, we are surveying the facts and calling them as we see them. If this were about an illegal alien (of any heritage) trying to harm the country using their status, then the discussion would have merit. However, turning the drunk driving offense into an illegal alien politic is as bad as turning soldier funerals into a homosexual politic. Make sense out of that which makes sense, don't politicize so often that you lose touch with facts.
quote:Originally posted by EdEKit:380 thousand plus anchor babies per year. THAT IS AN AVERAGE OF OVER 20 A DAY PER STATE.quote:Originally posted by DeepFat:
Ed,
I would find it difficult to believe that the Federal Gov't is cooking the books to make illegals look more harmful than they are, considering the President's affection for them.
2/3 of all births in L.A. County Hospital are indeed to illegal Mexican women. I doubt the statistic carries statewide. They come across in a state of high ripeness to give birth to "anchor babies". It's an old situation that no one will address, lest the accusation of racism come up.
DF
It would mean that 5% of all babies born in the USA are born to illegal immigrants.
If 12 million Illegal immigrants are in the USA today, that would mean that EVERY ONE OF THEM WILL HAVE A BABY THIS YEAR. Since 12 million is 4% of the the total US population.
THOSE NUMBERS ARE FANTASIES. THEY ARE NOT ACCURATE.
I am going to surrender. You have me on the Arithmetic quote. Your figures indicate a birthrate of over 31 per thousand among all illegals. Common wisdom says the vast majority of illegals are men. I absolutely will not accept that 380 thousand figure as correct. It is exaggerated. But it is not the issue.quote:Originally posted by midknightrider:quote:Originally posted by EdEKit:380 thousand plus anchor babies per year. THAT IS AN AVERAGE OF OVER 20 A DAY PER STATE.quote:Originally posted by DeepFat:
Ed,
I would find it difficult to believe that the Federal Gov't is cooking the books to make illegals look more harmful than they are, considering the President's affection for them.
2/3 of all births in L.A. County Hospital are indeed to illegal Mexican women. I doubt the statistic carries statewide. They come across in a state of high ripeness to give birth to "anchor babies". It's an old situation that no one will address, lest the accusation of racism come up.
DF
It would mean that 5% of all babies born in the USA are born to illegal immigrants.
If 12 million Illegal immigrants are in the USA today, that would mean that EVERY ONE OF THEM WILL HAVE A BABY THIS YEAR. Since 12 million is 4% of the the total US population.
THOSE NUMBERS ARE FANTASIES. THEY ARE NOT ACCURATE.
Ed, this looks like something PBA would come up with.
First of all, last year it is estimated that there were approximately 4.2 million births in th US. So the percentage of anchor babies is more like 9%. This is where you went wrong, transposing percentages does not work. While it's true that 12 million illegals is approximately 4% of the total US population, all this means is 12 million illegals accounted for 380,000 births. Or 4% of the population accounted for 9% of the births. I don't find that so hard to believe.
As you stated in another thread: WHEN YOU LEARN ARITHMETIC, call me.
I did, and if you read the conclusion I came to, after trying to find the Government published Stats, You would see that I seriously doubt the accuracy of the quoted statistics. THERE IS A PROBLEMO. It will not be solved with inaccurate information being used to make arguments seem reasonable.quote:Originally posted by DeepFat:
Ed, you wrotequote:So, you wasted my time by saying "In California," and meaning "in LA County Hospital." There is a difference, LA county hospital is totally government funded.
Are you talking to me? I believe you'll find that it was you who brought the INS/FBI statistics to the discussion.
DF
quote:Originally posted by EdEKit:I am going to surrender. You have me on the Arithmetic quote. Your figures indicate a birthrate of over 31 per thousand among all illegals. Common wisdom says the vast majority of illegals are men. I absolutely will not accept that 380 thousand figure as correct. It is exaggerated. But it is not the issue.quote:Originally posted by midknightrider:quote:Originally posted by EdEKit:380 thousand plus anchor babies per year. THAT IS AN AVERAGE OF OVER 20 A DAY PER STATE.quote:Originally posted by DeepFat:
Ed,
I would find it difficult to believe that the Federal Gov't is cooking the books to make illegals look more harmful than they are, considering the President's affection for them.
2/3 of all births in L.A. County Hospital are indeed to illegal Mexican women. I doubt the statistic carries statewide. They come across in a state of high ripeness to give birth to "anchor babies". It's an old situation that no one will address, lest the accusation of racism come up.
DF
It would mean that 5% of all babies born in the USA are born to illegal immigrants.
If 12 million Illegal immigrants are in the USA today, that would mean that EVERY ONE OF THEM WILL HAVE A BABY THIS YEAR. Since 12 million is 4% of the the total US population.
THOSE NUMBERS ARE FANTASIES. THEY ARE NOT ACCURATE.
Ed, this looks like something PBA would come up with.
First of all, last year it is estimated that there were approximately 4.2 million births in th US. So the percentage of anchor babies is more like 9%. This is where you went wrong, transposing percentages does not work. While it's true that 12 million illegals is approximately 4% of the total US population, all this means is 12 million illegals accounted for 380,000 births. Or 4% of the population accounted for 9% of the births. I don't find that so hard to believe.
As you stated in another thread: WHEN YOU LEARN ARITHMETIC, call me.
World Net daily says 12 Americans a day are murdered by illegal Aliens. I think that figure is also exaggerated.
THE ISSUE in this thread is whether DUI was the crime in that traffic fatality, or Illegal Presence in the USA.
In 2005 nearly 17 thousand people died in the US in Alcohol Related highway crashes. That is 39% of all traffic deaths. If 9% of the total population is illegal, and we removed them all from the US, the effect on alcohol related deaths on the highway would be minimal. The highway fatality number would get reduced, by 1,500. Unless you want to argue that Illegals are also predominantly heavy drinkers, and that they ALL drive.
There is a solution. Make DUI a felony, Indict every Drunk Driver, Hold them for trial on a high bail, say 100 thousand dollars. Convict them, imprison them, deport the non citizen to his place of birth on completion of sentence. Make it a 20 year felony to re enter the country after deportation. Pay for the prison cells this would require, or make room for the Drunks by turning someone loose who was convicted of a less offensive crime.
If you wish to argue the anchor baby issue, start a thread.
quote:Originally posted by EdEKit:
It will not be solved with inaccurate information being used to make arguments seem reasonable.
quote:if the immigration laws had been enforced there wouldn't have been a DUI.
quote:Originally posted by one who posts:quote:if the immigration laws had been enforced there wouldn't have been a DUI.
Sorry. There is no way in heaven or hell that you could prove that. There is no fool proof, 100% border plan.