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Just know that there are a great many self loathing whites who somehow feel guilty for doing absolutely nothing in and of themselves.  Also know that for every one of them there is probably 10 or more people that would want to take everything they have to offer and more.  I also guarantee you that 99% of those who actually demand or want reparations are as RACIST as any KKK member ever was.  All you have to do is to listen to these people talk and you can sense the hatred that is in their heart.

There is no amount of reparations that can ease or solve that hatred for they, themselves, in most cases have had things given to them all their lives or they have taken from people and not attempted to achieve anything on their own to make their lives successful and worthwhile.  The only thing that can solve that hatred is a changed heart/mind through finding the Love of Christ for only the Love of God can alter and change a decrepid heart instantly.

I'd be the never one to feel guilty about that BS. It's all white
liberal contrived for the power gain they see out of it.
 
If blacks hate white so much, why do they buy caucasian
hair to wear over their own.?  Why do they want to live side
by side with white people.? Why do black women hate black
guys who marry white women when they don't want to marry
them either.? Most black women would marry white guys.
I could go on and on with this but it's tiring and I only like
about 10% of blacks anyway. Maybe 15% of whites, all
others on a, one on one basic. Forget ragheads altogether.   
A white liberal should feel guilty for the pain and suffering
they cause normal Americans that are having to go through
for the sake of non productive socialist agenda's that enslave
nappy ignorant people.
 
If there's a hellery voter out there that can justify their vote for
her, do so. I'd like to hear you make sense of the reason for it...

 

You mean something good for the unions, don't you?

Want to know what the Dems did for the blue collar worker the past 8 years?  Ask a coal miner.

We’re going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business,” Clinton said Sunday night while boasting about her clean energy program — and with a big smile on her face.

In fact, this is standard Democratic policy: President Obama’s been throwing coal miners out of work for seven years now, aiming to deliver on his 2008 pledge to “bankrupt” the coal industry.

http://nypost.com/2016/03/14/h...democratic-betrayal/

All I did was, without any bias whatsoever, googled  "Democrats blue collar workers" and look what I found:

https://www.google.com/webhp?h...+blue+collar+workers

Googling "Republicans blue collar workers" it would appear they have the edge.

https://www.google.com/webhp?h...+blue+collar+workers

Times change, JT.  Turn out the lights.  Party's over.

 

Can any of you name anything that the republicans have ever done to help the blue collar middle class? Notice that I said "if either party" does something to help the working class, it will be democrats. I hope the republicans will prove me wrong.

I have said that Hillary needs to spend more time on the blue collar middle class and less (not abandon) time on the LGBT class. 

direstraits posted:

Read the Democrat platform.  The blue collar workers are off the platform and a hole dug for their final resting place.

Yep. Demoslops are responsible for the ruin of the middle class and blue collar workers, and now the gimmethats claim they are all in this together, get on board, stick out your hand, the gravy will flow, rob the rich, except the clintons and other rich demoslops and enjoy the land of milk and honey.

Yep. Demoslops are responsible for the ruin of the middle class and blue collar workers, and now the gimmethats claim they are all in this together, get on board, stick out your hand, the gravy will flow, rob the rich, except the clintons and other rich demoslops and enjoy the land of milk and honey.

Best, do you ever think you can learn some new words. 

jtdavis posted:

My biggest reason for supporting Hillary is her stand on SS. She says raise it, Trumps campaign manager said, at a big money meeting,  they would possibly entertain adjustments to it. 

The cap is gonna have to be raised. The government needs to pay back what they "borrowed" from it.

Her stand on SS? To try and rob it like bill did? And adjustments is exactly what it needs. That doesn't mean rob it or what I wish they would do, do away with it.

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Clinton’s lock-box plan is nothing more than a scheme to use more than $3 trillion in Social Security surpluses to buy down federal debt. In exchange, the Social Security trust fund gets another $3 trillion worth of IOUs. To be sure, most Americans would rather pay down the debt than use Social Security’s surpluses to fund pork barrel projects. But make no mistake, once that money is spent – to buy down debt or fund new programs – it will not be there to cover Social Security’s long-term liabilities.

How Monica Lewinsky Saved Social Security

 

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jtdavis posted:

Yep. Demoslops are responsible for the ruin of the middle class and blue collar workers, and now the gimmethats claim they are all in this together, get on board, stick out your hand, the gravy will flow, rob the rich, except the clintons and other rich demoslops and enjoy the land of milk and honey.

Best, do you ever think you can learn some new words. 

New words? Such as? That's funny coming from a practically illiterate little pipsqueak that can't search, and is amazed that others can. Like those words?

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JTDavis,  at one time you may have been correct but this batch of Democrats are not those that have anything remotely helping to the middle class.  Here is what you, and other long term Democrats, should think solely about this coming election.  Which candidate is going to best represent your views with regards to the Supreme court?  If what is important is issues like LGBT, anti-gun, anti-religion, things like that then Hillary is your girl. 

The next president WILL swing the Supreme Court either in a political direction or a interpretative one and that goes for Trump also.  If Hillary wins then the Supreme Court will be politically liberal as a rubber stamp on liberal issues which today are gun control and LBGT issues.  If you are alright losing the 2nd amendment freedoms then Hillary is your Girl.

Both Democrats and Republicans are a group of RICH people with more money than they can spend themselves.  As for Trump he's made more jobs for middle class people than Hillary has thought about.  Not legislated but actually made and created and you don't see lawsuits against Trump through the years for being unfair or biased.  That's because Trump's history is not one of bias and being unfair or sexist.  That's current DNC hype and talking points and lies.

If you are alright with Someone who lies to and then lies about relatives of those killed in service to our country then Hillary is your Girl cause that's exactly what she did to the relatives of those killed at Benghazi.  She called them liars for daring to tell what she told them as to why their relatives were killed.  Who benefits the middle class and blue collar workers is who can create and bring back jobs.   Hillary has taken so many donations from foreign entities that she never will bring back jobs.  Trump is against the trade deals that are proven to be so unfair to blue collar workers and Americans but Hillary only changed her opinion when it became politically damaging so ask yourself is it possible Hillary is lying? 

Don't let history blind you.  The DNC has been hijacked and is no longer what you dream and hope it is.  Until someone takes it back it never will be.  Look whos been in office that last 24 years and ask yourself why hasn't the lot for the blue collar worker improved?  Your dreaming and drinking the kool aid if you think Democrats are going to make it better.  

Last just look and consider Obamacare or better termed Democratic Healthcare.  What was you paying for insurance before that?  What are you paying now?  What was your deductible before and what is your deductible now?  That's money out of your and most middle class people's pockets and money pulled out by Democrats, not one Republican.  Look at how Republicans are slammed for being Racist but it's all words, read and study the facts.  The KKK was solely Democrats,  powered and supported by Democratic politicians.  The Civil Rights acts giving minorities their Civil rights was opposed by most Democrats in the 60's but only passed because of Republicans support.  Yes Johnson was president but his own party, the Democrats were against him and only did he get it passed because Republicans were for him and for Civil Rights but who gets credit and who is called racist?  It's all hype and distortion.  Minorities are supporting and overwhelmingly supporting a party that historically did support them being in chains and was racist in nature.  FACTS and History PROVE THAT!

 

"What was you paying for insurance before that?  What are you paying now?  What was your deductible before and what is your deductible now?  That's money out of your and most middle class people's pockets and money pulled out by Democrats, not one Republican." 

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And why can't jt's "blue collar" workers afford to buy that "affordable health care"?

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jtdavis posted:

My biggest reason for supporting Hillary is her stand on SS. She says raise it, Trumps campaign manager said, at a big money meeting,  they would possibly entertain adjustments to it. 

The cap is gonna have to be raised. The government needs to pay back what they "borrowed" from it.

The government is us, get out your checkbook.

jtdavis posted:

GBRK, you are spending too much time in a dark, soundproof room.

Best, Obama care didn't affect my health insurance coverage or price. I have had better insurance with lower deductibles than Obama care called for and paid less for it than Obama's price.

I didn't ask about YOUR coverage. GBRK did. I ask you why your fellow blue collar workers could not afford obama's "affordable" insurance.

Bestworking posted:
jtdavis posted:

GBRK, you are spending too much time in a dark, soundproof room.

Best, Obama care didn't affect my health insurance coverage or price. I have had better insurance with lower deductibles than Obama care called for and paid less for it than Obama's price.

I didn't ask about YOUR coverage. GBRK did. I ask you why your fellow blue collar workers could not afford obama's "affordable" insurance.

You're lucky to have an advanced type policy jt, don't leave
home without it. Maybe you shouldn't leave home.
jtdavis posted:

I didn't ask about YOUR coverage. GBRK did. I ask you why your fellow blue collar workers could not afford obama's "affordable" insurance.

My fellow blue collar workers are in the same boat as me.  The premium was held out of each check.

So the ones that say they can't afford obamacare and have no insurance are lying?

jtdavis posted:

So the ones that say they can't afford obamacare and have no insurance are lying?

If you will bother reading my post, I said "my fellow blue collar workers" We were in a union and our insurance premium was held out of each check. 

I read it. If you could understand anything you'd know "fellow blue collar workers" meant ALL blue collar workers. After all, it was you that brought up the blue collar working class. So, why can't the blue collar workers/working class that don't have the union, aka mob, backing, afford obamacare if it's so affordable?


 

And why can't jt's "blue collar" workers afford to buy that "affordable health care"?                                                                                                                                              I didn't ask about YOUR coverage. GBRK did. I ask you why your fellow blue collar workers could not afford obama's "affordable" insurance.

Those are your posts, my post read "my fellow blue collar workers". You are trying to put a lot of people into my fellow blue collar workers that I didn't claim. Are your employees among the people who can't afford health coverage?

 

My fellow blue collar workers are in the same boat as me.  The premium was held out of each check. ~ JT.

Let me ask a different way.  JT, your fellow blue collar workers, the ones you knew, the ones in the same boat as you . . . they were all union members.  The guy who works on your car . . . you don't know his situation.

And you basing your assumption of what you know of blue collar workers solely on union membership.  You know nothing of blue collar workers outside a union membership.  You know your union benefits but without them, nothing.

Would that be a fair assessment?  I think it would be because I've been a non-union blue collar worker and there is no comparison between the two.  I was an independent blue collar worker.  You were a dependent union man.

But hey, that's life.  You go your way, I'll go mine.

But here's where you're messin up with this Democrat brother blue collar thing.

Your DBBC buddies, union or non-union [doesn't specify] are crossing over to Trump in droves.

What is it, JT, they know and you don't?  We on the other side are in full recognition of this, and some, me included when I should not, take advantage of a situation we all know you cannot possible defend.

I'm not trying to paint you into a corner.  I want to give you an out simply because you've paid your dues and I hate to see anyone stripped of what he's worked for to be given to the lazy *******s.  To me it seems like you've got a lot more in common with those who are seeing the light than those staying on the Democratic Plantation waiting for another handout.

At least consider it JT.  You've not nothing in common with "those" folks and when they say "we" they ain't talking about you.  I believe you know that.  As an old time Southern Democrat [think Strom Thurmond era] change is slow but change is strong.

 

jtdavis posted:

And why can't jt's "blue collar" workers afford to buy that "affordable health care"?                                                                                                                                              I didn't ask about YOUR coverage. GBRK did. I ask you why your fellow blue collar workers could not afford obama's "affordable" insurance.

Those are your posts, my post read "my fellow blue collar workers". You are trying to put a lot of people into my fellow blue collar workers that I didn't claim. Are your employees among the people who can't afford health coverage?

So again, you claim blue collar workers only IF they worked with you, or in your union? Your fuzzy thinking is one reason we can't afford to have another demoslop in office. Bud tried to explain it to you and you will either-pretend he explained it just right and claim now you get it, or-you will go right along saying you didn't mean those other blue collar workers-or drop it all together and not answer.

Another flaw in your and other demoslops thinking, are that people who don't belong to unions are somehow not compensated and compensated well for what they do unless companies are forced. With MILLIONS of businesses in this country it would be ridiculous to claim that. Businesses are completely capable of paying good wages and benefits, and do, without union involvement. I'm not talking about a little mom and pop operation, or companies with jobs intended for students, part-time workers, or for retirees to earn a few bucks. Sadly that's the "new jobs" most have since the demoslops have ruined the economy. Dems "fix" for a bad economy? Is it new, better paying jobs? No, their fix is to force small businesses to pay exorbitant wages to uneducated folks that couldn't be bothered to stay in school and learn and do better. Rewarding unproductive folks is the demoslop way.

And no jt, our employees are not the ones without insurance. We take care of all their pay and benefits without the mob telling us to do it. You're in that mindset that you are owed something for just existing, and you think everybody else feels entitled like you do. You don't give a flip about what you call blue collar workers. That much is clear by the way you dance around questions. Unlike bud, I do think that all you care about is what they will give YOU.

The clintons know their voter base, and that is why they pander to the greedy, lazy ones that don't give a rip about what they are doing to the country as long as there is a chance they will get a few more handouts. Another question you always avoid, the clintons are worth over 126 MILLION dollars, yet you have no problem with them or other rich demoslops. Why is that?

giftedamateur posted:

Best, companies and businesses have taken a hit and are under attack by the Democrats and their lousy economy. What they were once able to do for workers has been curtailed by Democrats and blamed on Republicans. I would love to find an honest Democrat that would actually answer a question.

You and me both. Ask them a question and they go 10 miles out of their way to avoid answering, or, answer with another question, or answer in a way that has nothing to do with the subject.

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