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Virginia is for lovers of political correctness, as we learned this weekend when White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders was thrown out of The Red Hen in Lexington, Virginia, on Friday night. The restaurant’s owner sanctimoniously declared the establishment has to uphold “certain standards.”

Evidently she means the standard of resisting President Trump, by refusing to serve steak or french fries, or a hen that’s red - or whatever it is that they serve - to an employee of the man they loathe because they’re “tolerant,” or something like that.

This political correctness is quickly approaching dangerous and irrational levels the likes of which we’ve never witnessed before. In the age of social media anyone can seize an opportunity to publicly take a stand against President Trump, and know that it could easily become national news and give them their 15 minutes of fame in the process.

The staff at The Red Hen knew if they asked Sanders to leave they’d get national news coverage. Shortly afterward employees were lighting up Twitter with tales of how their boss gave Sarah the boot, on moral grounds of course.

This quest for media attention is becoming all too common, and as it does, we continue to see people cross the line in potentially dangerous ways.

Just last week Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen was harassed while eating dinner at a Mexican restaurant near the White House by the Democratic Socialists of America. They were upset over the administration’s immigration policy - a policy that was also the law on the books during the Obama years, but his Cabinet secretaries didn’t get chased out of restaurants following screams and chants and f-bombs.

Perhaps we have celebrities like Robert De Niro, Samantha Bee, Michelle Wolf, and Peter Fonda to thank for leading the leftist mob down this road to what is approaching near anarchy.

And the media enables it all, with the result that the public now thinks this is the new normal. It is not normal. It is dangerous.

Make no mistake, this isn’t just about President Trump. Even if Vice President Mike Pence was president, this would still happen.

The PC liberals in this country increasingly seem to believe that they can bully their way to public policy goals. Celebrities instigate the behavior, the far left mimics the behavior, and the media enables it all.

The result is the public now thinks this is the new normal. It is not normal. It is dangerous.

Peter Fonda sent out a series of tweets this week, calling for Barron Trump to be ripped from his mother and put in a cage with pedophiles, then he went after Sarah Sanders and Kirstjen Nielsen tweeting that Sanders’ kids should be taken from her and Nielsen should be put in a cage, stripped naked, and whipped publicly with it filmed for posterity.

Paging #MeToo.

Just curious, if Peter Fonda walked into The Red Hen would he be asked to leave because his tweets don’t meet the “certain standards” they have to uphold as a restaurant?  Asking for a friend.

By the owner’s flawed logic and approach to business management, anyone who isn’t a socialist shouldn't serve Bernie Sanders because socialism has ruined many countries and cost countless lives. Yet, if I owned a restaurant I’d gladly serve Senator Sanders and a table full of his socialist friends because I’m running a business, as countless other businesses who don’t subscribe to socialism have done.

That’s right, I’d serve a bunch of socialists because I’m a capitalist.

Both The Red Hen’s owner and many others are pointing to the recent Supreme Court decision that ruled Masterpiece Cakeshop did not have to make an off-the-menu cake for a gay wedding to justify kicking Sanders out of the restaurant. However, there is no comparison. For that logic to work Sanders would’ve had to order food that wasn’t on the menu and then use the government to try and force them to make what she wanted.

Once upon a time, it used to be if any high ranking official — from any administration, Democrat or Republican — came into your restaurant not only would you serve them, but you’d publicize it to promote your business. Gone are those days.

Today, many are just looking to put politically correct points on the board, and prefer to seek out publicity for their business through divisive political statements.

And our media – most of whom make no secret of the fact they are ultra-liberal – is giving them a platform to do so, not through the lens of journalism and facts, but rather by minimizing those who don’t think the way they do.

Accustomed to always being the adult in the room, Sanders left The Red Hen without a scene, and later tweeted “Last night I was told by the owner of Red Hen in Lexington, VA to leave because I work for @POTUS and I politely left. Her actions say far more about her than about me. I always do my best to treat people, including those I disagree with, respectfully and will continue to do so.”

You won’t see Sanders kicking anyone out of the briefing room to uphold certain standards, though many would call her justified if she did. And you won’t find her on Twitter calling anyone four letter words, or calling for the public beating of another human.

Those who claim to represent “certain standards”- including tolerance and inclusiveness - should stand up and take notice. This is what it looks like.

Lauren DeBellis Appell, a freelance writer in Fairfax, Virginia, was deputy press secretary for then-Sen. Rick Santorum, R-Pa., in his successful 2000 re-election campaign, as well as assistant communications director for the Senate Republican Policy Committee (2001-2003).

Desperation met stupidity on the corner of bad luck and despair, and the democratic party was born.

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A known conservative should stay away from these restaurant’s
as they deal with the food you are about to eat. Not good at all.
The Red Hen owner declared the establishment has to uphold “certain standards.” And what standards would those be.?
 
The cake baker didn't refuse to bake for the homos, they refused
to decorate the cake in a homosexual theme for religious reasons.
What religious reasons did the Bigot Hen have to refuse those
people who wanted nothing out of the ordinary other than food.
 
Only spite and a shorter nose backed by hate alone would refuse
an order that large a sum of money.

But then communist aren't Capitalist anyway.   

 

Kraven posted:
A known conservative should stay away from these restaurant’s
as they deal with the food you are about to eat. Not good at all.
The Red Hen owner declared the establishment has to uphold “certain standards.” And what standards would those be.?
 
The cake baker didn't refuse to bake for the homos, they refused
to decorate the cake in a homosexual theme for religious reasons.
What religious reasons did the Bigot Hen have to refuse those
people who wanted nothing out of the ordinary other than food.
 
Only spite and a shorter nose backed by hate alone would refuse
an order that large a sum of money.

But then communist aren't Capitalist anyway.   

 

I guess some people's morals are mightier than the dollar. Republicans will never understand that.

I guess some people are too moronic to witness the complete
lack of morals from the demonic left since Nov/2016.
I don't wonder how the lack of morals added 9 trillion to the debt
by Obumer. Now there's one that hates Whites, Christians, Jews and
Americans in general. Yep,,, absence of morals........... that's how,,,!! 

Based on the information that came out about various employees in the restaurant I would think any conservative or Republican would want to avoid the place like a plague anyway.  I'm not saying to boycott a restaurant because there are gay employees but rather given the extreme, unhinged, radical, and aggressive behavior of the liberal left if a known conservative or even someone that was thought to be conservative or Republican happened to dine there no telling what one of those "liberal" employees might do to the food.

For whatever reason, the liberal left has become more and more unhinged in their thinking and their actions and to the point where there is no respectful "agreeing to disagree" and more than not the liberal left sees anyone that disagrees with hem as enemies that warrants destruction and elimination.   This is the stuff of the **** party or "brown shirts" or the like of World War II Germany's fascist party.  

gbrk posted:

Based on the information that came out about various employees in the restaurant I would think any conservative or Republican would want to avoid the place like a plague anyway.  I'm not saying to boycott a restaurant because there are gay employees but rather given the extreme, unhinged, radical, and aggressive behavior of the liberal left if a known conservative or even someone that was thought to be conservative or Republican happened to dine there no telling what one of those "liberal" employees might do to the food.

For whatever reason, the liberal left has become more and more unhinged in their thinking and their actions and to the point where there is no respectful "agreeing to disagree" and more than not the liberal left sees anyone that disagrees with hem as enemies that warrants destruction and elimination.   This is the stuff of the **** party or "brown shirts" or the like of World War II Germany's fascist party.  

FYI, remember, the brown shirts were German and the SA.  Fascists were black shirts and Italian.

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I doubt police officers can afford to eat there, maybe they can, but I would suggest they avoid it because I'd bet anything the staff, with the managements blessings, would tamper with their food. There are restaurants that are liberal snake pits in the Shoals I'd suggest Conservatives avoid too.

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gbrk posted:

Based on the information that came out about various employees in the restaurant I would think any conservative or Republican would want to avoid the place like a plague anyway.  I'm not saying to boycott a restaurant because there are gay employees but rather given the extreme, unhinged, radical, and aggressive behavior of the liberal left if a known conservative or even someone that was thought to be conservative or Republican happened to dine there no telling what one of those "liberal" employees might do to the food.

For whatever reason, the liberal left has become more and more unhinged in their thinking and their actions and to the point where there is no respectful "agreeing to disagree" and more than not the liberal left sees anyone that disagrees with hem as enemies that warrants destruction and elimination.   This is the stuff of the **** party or "brown shirts" or the like of World War II Germany's fascist party.  

I can't seem to find your 'outrage' over the Republicans who denied service to a Democrat. I wonder if the same 'unhinged, radical, aggressive behavior' applied to them? I wonder why the Conservatives backed that bakery and have such an issue with this restaurant? Do you see the hypocrisy? How can you not? What if a Virginia bakery refused service to the Vice President? Would that be an outrage?

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Jutu posted:

I doubt police officers can afford to eat there, maybe they can, but I would suggest they avoid it because I'd bet anything the staff, with the managements blessings, would tamper with their food. There are restaurants that are liberal snake pits in the Shoals I'd suggest Conservatives avoid too.

Highly agree. Either bodily fluids or cleaning products put in their food. I agree about the snake pit places in the Shoals area too.

Br’er Rabbit posted:
gbrk posted:

Based on the information that came out about various employees in the restaurant I would think any conservative or Republican would want to avoid the place like a plague anyway.  I'm not saying to boycott a restaurant because there are gay employees but rather given the extreme, unhinged, radical, and aggressive behavior of the liberal left if a known conservative or even someone that was thought to be conservative or Republican happened to dine there no telling what one of those "liberal" employees might do to the food.

For whatever reason, the liberal left has become more and more unhinged in their thinking and their actions and to the point where there is no respectful "agreeing to disagree" and more than not the liberal left sees anyone that disagrees with hem as enemies that warrants destruction and elimination.   This is the stuff of the **** party or "brown shirts" or the like of World War II Germany's fascist party.  

I can't seem to find your 'outrage' over the Republicans who denied service to a Democrat. I wonder if the same 'unhinged, radical, aggressive behavior' applied to them? I wonder why the Conservatives backed that bakery and have such an issue with this restaurant? Do you see the hypocrisy? How can you not? What if a Virginia bakery refused service to the Vice President? Would that be an outrage?

I'm sorry Rabbit but if this happened I'd certainly be against it and condemn it but I just haven't seen it.  I'm sure you will cite the event though.  The Red Hen owner should have that right to make that decision but to me, in today's environment, for a business owner to do such reflects more on them than their beliefs and in doing what they are doing, regardless if it is toward a democrat or a republican, is isolating their business to almost 50% of the potential clientele and that's economically crazy.  

I also have never heard of (although I admit it's possible) Conservatives acting in an unhinged way toward their liberal counterparts as is going on today.  The Democratic party is experiencing yet another seismic political shift to a much more socialist, if not communistic, type party Socialist Wins primary unseats Democratic stalwart. <--- URL Link to another story).  The Democratic party has in great part left its traditional voting base and that base has turned independent, for the most part, but often do vote Republican these days.  Those former Democrats gave Reagan his win in 1980 and gave Trump his win in 2016 along with Hillary being as disastrous a candidate as Jimmy Carter was, but for different reasons.  

Anymore Democrats rely on blindly devoted voters to give the power.  People that vote Democrat ("pull the donkey's tail") every election no matter who's running or what they stand for.   They, the Democratic party, is now looking to illegals to become the new voting block to give them their power because so many minorities and former Union people (Blue Color workers) are looking hard at a party they once supported without question in seeing that party's members take stances that are contrary to their own self-interest and good.  Like it or not the Democratic party is tipping toward the Socialist (and Communistic) directions and maybe that's alright and beneficial for you.  I hope though that centrist and more middle of the road Democrats can survive and take back the party.  I'd love to see a conservative wing of the Democratic party become established at the table of political power but I just don't see it.

One last thing regarding the Red Hen kicking Sander's out.  This is in no way a correlation or similar issue to the cake baker or photographer who refused to do a gay wedding.  In that case, the individuals affected were the ones exhibiting the acts with the service provider disagreed with.  The baker didn't want to participate in a Gay wedding as didn't the photographer. In the case of the Red Hen, it wasn't something Sarah Sanders did but rather who she worked for. It was as if the ower of the restaurant was reaching out to Trump by proxy using Sanders and wasn't due to Sanders herself.  Still, I believe a business owner has that right to chose to serve someone on or not but not based on certain discrimination issues such as race or color and I would put religious beliefs or political beliefs in there as well as other known discrimination issues.  

In the case of the gay weddings participating in an event that you hold strong religious convictions against should be a decision of the individual and government should not order them to compromise their faith by requiring them to serve those who participate in actions that are against their own faith.  Christians should not be allowed to deny service to non-Christians based on their beliefs or lack of them.  But in the case of the Red Hen they did wrong by taking the reservations and then seating them only to ask later, after they started their meal, for them to leave.  That was something that should have happened before the party ever got sat.

 

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direstraits posted:
gbrk posted:

Based on the information that came out about various employees in the restaurant I would think any conservative or Republican would want to avoid the place like a plague anyway.  I'm not saying to boycott a restaurant because there are gay employees but rather given the extreme, unhinged, radical, and aggressive behavior of the liberal left if a known conservative or even someone that was thought to be conservative or Republican happened to dine there no telling what one of those "liberal" employees might do to the food.

For whatever reason, the liberal left has become more and more unhinged in their thinking and their actions and to the point where there is no respectful "agreeing to disagree" and more than not the liberal left sees anyone that disagrees with hem as enemies that warrants destruction and elimination.   This is the stuff of the **** party or "brown shirts" or the like of World War II Germany's fascist party.  

FYI, remember, the brown shirts were German and the SA.  Fascists were black shirts and Italian.

Thank you for that correction, you are right!  My mistake of the factual information but today we seem to be in a position of such diverse and isolated, separated, political parties, and some are so unhinged that it is conceivable that history could repeat itself at some future point and that is frightening. 

gbrk posted:
Br’er Rabbit posted:
gbrk posted:

Based on the information that came out about various employees in the restaurant I would think any conservative or Republican would want to avoid the place like a plague anyway.  I'm not saying to boycott a restaurant because there are gay employees but rather given the extreme, unhinged, radical, and aggressive behavior of the liberal left if a known conservative or even someone that was thought to be conservative or Republican happened to dine there no telling what one of those "liberal" employees might do to the food.

For whatever reason, the liberal left has become more and more unhinged in their thinking and their actions and to the point where there is no respectful "agreeing to disagree" and more than not the liberal left sees anyone that disagrees with hem as enemies that warrants destruction and elimination.   This is the stuff of the **** party or "brown shirts" or the like of World War II Germany's fascist party.  

I can't seem to find your 'outrage' over the Republicans who denied service to a Democrat. I wonder if the same 'unhinged, radical, aggressive behavior' applied to them? I wonder why the Conservatives backed that bakery and have such an issue with this restaurant? Do you see the hypocrisy? How can you not? What if a Virginia bakery refused service to the Vice President? Would that be an outrage?

I'm sorry Rabbit but if this happened I'd certainly be against it and condemn it but I just haven't seen it.  I'm sure you will cite the event though.  The Red Hen owner should have that right to make that decision but to me, in today's environment, for a business owner to do such reflects more on them than their beliefs and in doing what they are doing, regardless if it is toward a democrat or a republican, is isolating their business to almost 50% of the potential clientele and that's economically crazy.  

I also have never heard of (although I admit it's possible) Conservatives acting in an unhinged way toward their liberal counterparts as is going on today.  The Democratic party is experiencing yet another seismic political shift to a much more socialist, if not communistic, type party Socialist Wins primary unseats Democratic stalwart. <--- URL Link to another story).  The Democratic party has in great part left its traditional voting base and that base has turned independent, for the most part, but often do vote Republican these days.  Those former Democrats gave Reagan his win in 1980 and gave Trump his win in 2016 along with Hillary being as disastrous a candidate as Jimmy Carter was, but for different reasons.  

Anymore Democrats rely on blindly devoted voters to give the power.  People that vote Democrat ("pull the donkey's tail") every election no matter who's running or what they stand for.   They, the Democratic party, is now looking to illegals to become the new voting block to give them their power because so many minorities and former Union people (Blue Color workers) are looking hard at a party they once supported without question in seeing that party's members take stances that are contrary to their own self-interest and good.  Like it or not the Democratic party is tipping toward the Socialist (and Communistic) directions and maybe that's alright and beneficial for you.  I hope though that centrist and more middle of the road Democrats can survive and take back the party.  I'd love to see a conservative wing of the Democratic party become established at the table of political power but I just don't see it.

One last thing regarding the Red Hen kicking Sander's out.  This is in no way a correlation or similar issue to the cake baker or photographer who refused to do a gay wedding.  In that case, the individuals affected were the ones exhibiting the acts with the service provider disagreed with.  The baker didn't want to participate in a Gay wedding as didn't the photographer. In the case of the Red Hen, it wasn't something Sarah Sanders did but rather who she worked for. It was as if the ower of the restaurant was reaching out to Trump by proxy using Sanders and wasn't due to Sanders herself.  Still, I believe a business owner has that right to chose to serve someone on or not but not based on certain discrimination issues such as race or color and I would put religious beliefs or political beliefs in there as well as other known discrimination issues.  

In the case of the gay weddings participating in an event that you hold strong religious convictions against should be a decision of the individual and government should not order them to compromise their faith by requiring them to serve those who participate in actions that are against their own faith.  Christians should not be allowed to deny service to non-Christians based on their beliefs or lack of them.  But in the case of the Red Hen they did wrong by taking the reservations and then seating them only to ask later, after they started their meal, for them to leave.  That was something that should have happened before the party ever got sat.

 

The owner of a cookie shop turned down the opportunity to serve Vice President Joe Biden in 2012 — and the right embraced him as their small business hero.

Chris McMurray and his wife Kelly had only been in a business a few months when Biden's advance team walked into their Radford bakery, Crumb and Get It, hoping the veep could stop in for some cookies and a photo opportunity while they were campaigning in the area, but McMurray turned down the offer.

He made the decision “because of conviction and principle,” the shop owner told CBS affiliate WDBJ 7 at the time. “I have a difference of opinion of the folks in that campaign, that’s what it was. Also, taking a stance for my faith, my faith in God.”

gbrk posted:
Br’er Rabbit posted:
gbrk posted:

Based on the information that came out about various employees in the restaurant I would think any conservative or Republican would want to avoid the place like a plague anyway.  I'm not saying to boycott a restaurant because there are gay employees but rather given the extreme, unhinged, radical, and aggressive behavior of the liberal left if a known conservative or even someone that was thought to be conservative or Republican happened to dine there no telling what one of those "liberal" employees might do to the food.

For whatever reason, the liberal left has become more and more unhinged in their thinking and their actions and to the point where there is no respectful "agreeing to disagree" and more than not the liberal left sees anyone that disagrees with hem as enemies that warrants destruction and elimination.   This is the stuff of the **** party or "brown shirts" or the like of World War II Germany's fascist party.  

I can't seem to find your 'outrage' over the Republicans who denied service to a Democrat. I wonder if the same 'unhinged, radical, aggressive behavior' applied to them? I wonder why the Conservatives backed that bakery and have such an issue with this restaurant? Do you see the hypocrisy? How can you not? What if a Virginia bakery refused service to the Vice President? Would that be an outrage?

I'm sorry Rabbit but if this happened I'd certainly be against it and condemn it but I just haven't seen it.  I'm sure you will cite the event though.  The Red Hen owner should have that right to make that decision but to me, in today's environment, for a business owner to do such reflects more on them than their beliefs and in doing what they are doing, regardless if it is toward a democrat or a republican, is isolating their business to almost 50% of the potential clientele and that's economically crazy.  

I also have never heard of (although I admit it's possible) Conservatives acting in an unhinged way toward their liberal counterparts as is going on today.  The Democratic party is experiencing yet another seismic political shift to a much more socialist, if not communistic, type party Socialist Wins primary unseats Democratic stalwart. <--- URL Link to another story).  The Democratic party has in great part left its traditional voting base and that base has turned independent, for the most part, but often do vote Republican these days.  Those former Democrats gave Reagan his win in 1980 and gave Trump his win in 2016 along with Hillary being as disastrous a candidate as Jimmy Carter was, but for different reasons.  

Anymore Democrats rely on blindly devoted voters to give the power.  People that vote Democrat ("pull the donkey's tail") every election no matter who's running or what they stand for.   They, the Democratic party, is now looking to illegals to become the new voting block to give them their power because so many minorities and former Union people (Blue Color workers) are looking hard at a party they once supported without question in seeing that party's members take stances that are contrary to their own self-interest and good.  Like it or not the Democratic party is tipping toward the Socialist (and Communistic) directions and maybe that's alright and beneficial for you.  I hope though that centrist and more middle of the road Democrats can survive and take back the party.  I'd love to see a conservative wing of the Democratic party become established at the table of political power but I just don't see it.

One last thing regarding the Red Hen kicking Sander's out.  This is in no way a correlation or similar issue to the cake baker or photographer who refused to do a gay wedding.  In that case, the individuals affected were the ones exhibiting the acts with the service provider disagreed with.  The baker didn't want to participate in a Gay wedding as didn't the photographer. In the case of the Red Hen, it wasn't something Sarah Sanders did but rather who she worked for. It was as if the ower of the restaurant was reaching out to Trump by proxy using Sanders and wasn't due to Sanders herself.  Still, I believe a business owner has that right to chose to serve someone on or not but not based on certain discrimination issues such as race or color and I would put religious beliefs or political beliefs in there as well as other known discrimination issues.  

In the case of the gay weddings participating in an event that you hold strong religious convictions against should be a decision of the individual and government should not order them to compromise their faith by requiring them to serve those who participate in actions that are against their own faith.  Christians should not be allowed to deny service to non-Christians based on their beliefs or lack of them.  But in the case of the Red Hen they did wrong by taking the reservations and then seating them only to ask later, after they started their meal, for them to leave.  That was something that should have happened before the party ever got sat.

 

Biden wasn't refused service. Someone turned down a "photo op" with Biden, so what? Seth Rogan was on TV a few days ago bragging how he had done the same thing with VP Pence and another lefty "hero" was born.  It is a huge difference in saying "not interested" in a photo op, and walking over to people intending to eat in private and telling them they have to leave. I doubt Biden would have been refused service had he come in and ordered food to eat instead of trying to exploit the business owner for a photo op.  Another pitiful weak case of spin from the rabid left.

 

RE: In 2012, a bakery refused to serve Joe Biden 

Zahpee  Wrote: (Yesterday 07:01 PM)
That's not what happened.

Once again the left lies to try and prove their stupid logic.


Joe Biden's staff approached the baker and asked if Biden could come to the store for a photo op and interview.

The baker said it would be a waste of time.


Biden never showed up to the store.


Left twisting things around again.

Remember-

https://www.washingtontimes.co...-to-mike-pence-was-/

"But liberals have no limits. They don’t know when to stop, because for them it’s never about genuinely accomplishing something, it’s about perpetual stomping and shaming and revenge, which never has an expiration date.

The left always goes too far, and the “Hamilton” stunt was exactly one of those times. They intended to embarrass Mr. Pence, but they embarrassed only themselves. After the ambush, President-elect Donald Trump and many others (including this columnist) called for the “Hamilton” cast to apologize. Mr. Dixon said there was no need as it was a “conversation.” That’s like claiming a bully sucker-punching someone is the equivalent of having a chat".

Oh, I knew the Alt Right would scream about 'how different it was'. I wonder how Republicans will act when they lose all their newly acquired power? Republicans control every branch of the Federal Government and still can't seem to get anything accomplished. I'm sure it'll be the Democrat's fault. The one thing that will be the Democrat's fault, how many Republicans get beat in the midterms. ha!

 

direstraits posted:

Radicalism of the left in the late sixties and early seventies lead to Nixon and Reagan.

Obama weaponized the IRS against the Tea Parties, effectively ending them. As a result, we now have Trump.  Unintended consequences and Karma are nasty things to deal with. 

From Nixon to Trump, a connection the Republicans are trying to avoid. ha!

the Koch brothers brought about the Tea Party. Lets try to keep the facts straight.

 

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Jutu posted:
gbrk posted:
Br’er Rabbit posted:
gbrk posted:

Based on the information that came out about various employees in the restaurant I would think any conservative or Republican would want to avoid the place like a plague anyway.  I'm not saying to boycott a restaurant because there are gay employees but rather given the extreme, unhinged, radical, and aggressive behavior of the liberal left if a known conservative or even someone that was thought to be conservative or Republican happened to dine there no telling what one of those "liberal" employees might do to the food.

For whatever reason, the liberal left has become more and more unhinged in their thinking and their actions and to the point where there is no respectful "agreeing to disagree" and more than not the liberal left sees anyone that disagrees with hem as enemies that warrants destruction and elimination.   This is the stuff of the **** party or "brown shirts" or the like of World War II Germany's fascist party.  

I can't seem to find your 'outrage' over the Republicans who denied service to a Democrat. I wonder if the same 'unhinged, radical, aggressive behavior' applied to them? I wonder why the Conservatives backed that bakery and have such an issue with this restaurant? Do you see the hypocrisy? How can you not? What if a Virginia bakery refused service to the Vice President? Would that be an outrage?

I'm sorry Rabbit but if this happened I'd certainly be against it and condemn it but I just haven't seen it.  I'm sure you will cite the event though.  The Red Hen owner should have that right to make that decision but to me, in today's environment, for a business owner to do such reflects more on them than their beliefs and in doing what they are doing, regardless if it is toward a democrat or a republican, is isolating their business to almost 50% of the potential clientele and that's economically crazy.  

I also have never heard of (although I admit it's possible) Conservatives acting in an unhinged way toward their liberal counterparts as is going on today.  The Democratic party is experiencing yet another seismic political shift to a much more socialist, if not communistic, type party Socialist Wins primary unseats Democratic stalwart. <--- URL Link to another story).  The Democratic party has in great part left its traditional voting base and that base has turned independent, for the most part, but often do vote Republican these days.  Those former Democrats gave Reagan his win in 1980 and gave Trump his win in 2016 along with Hillary being as disastrous a candidate as Jimmy Carter was, but for different reasons.  

Anymore Democrats rely on blindly devoted voters to give the power.  People that vote Democrat ("pull the donkey's tail") every election no matter who's running or what they stand for.   They, the Democratic party, is now looking to illegals to become the new voting block to give them their power because so many minorities and former Union people (Blue Color workers) are looking hard at a party they once supported without question in seeing that party's members take stances that are contrary to their own self-interest and good.  Like it or not the Democratic party is tipping toward the Socialist (and Communistic) directions and maybe that's alright and beneficial for you.  I hope though that centrist and more middle of the road Democrats can survive and take back the party.  I'd love to see a conservative wing of the Democratic party become established at the table of political power but I just don't see it.

One last thing regarding the Red Hen kicking Sander's out.  This is in no way a correlation or similar issue to the cake baker or photographer who refused to do a gay wedding.  In that case, the individuals affected were the ones exhibiting the acts with the service provider disagreed with.  The baker didn't want to participate in a Gay wedding as didn't the photographer. In the case of the Red Hen, it wasn't something Sarah Sanders did but rather who she worked for. It was as if the ower of the restaurant was reaching out to Trump by proxy using Sanders and wasn't due to Sanders herself.  Still, I believe a business owner has that right to chose to serve someone on or not but not based on certain discrimination issues such as race or color and I would put religious beliefs or political beliefs in there as well as other known discrimination issues.  

In the case of the gay weddings participating in an event that you hold strong religious convictions against should be a decision of the individual and government should not order them to compromise their faith by requiring them to serve those who participate in actions that are against their own faith.  Christians should not be allowed to deny service to non-Christians based on their beliefs or lack of them.  But in the case of the Red Hen they did wrong by taking the reservations and then seating them only to ask later, after they started their meal, for them to leave.  That was something that should have happened before the party ever got sat.

Biden wasn't refused service. Someone turned down a "photo op" with Biden, so what? Seth Rogan was on TV a few days ago bragging how he had done the same thing with VP Pence and another lefty "hero" was born.  It is a huge difference in saying "not interested" in a photo op, and walking over to people intending to eat in private and telling them they have to leave. I doubt Biden would have been refused service had he come in and ordered food to eat instead of trying to exploit the business owner for a photo op.  Another pitiful weak case of spin from the rabid left.

Injecting your opinion as fact is sure a funny way of accusing the 'left' of spinning the facts, isn't it? ha!

 

Br’er Rabbit posted:
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Based on the information that came out about various employees in the restaurant I would think any conservative or Republican would want to avoid the place like a plague anyway.  I'm not saying to boycott a restaurant because there are gay employees but rather given the extreme, unhinged, radical, and aggressive behavior of the liberal left if a known conservative or even someone that was thought to be conservative or Republican happened to dine there no telling what one of those "liberal" employees might do to the food.

For whatever reason, the liberal left has become more and more unhinged in their thinking and their actions and to the point where there is no respectful "agreeing to disagree" and more than not the liberal left sees anyone that disagrees with hem as enemies that warrants destruction and elimination.   This is the stuff of the **** party or "brown shirts" or the like of World War II Germany's fascist party.  

I can't seem to find your 'outrage' over the Republicans who denied service to a Democrat. I wonder if the same 'unhinged, radical, aggressive behavior' applied to them? I wonder why the Conservatives backed that bakery and have such an issue with this restaurant? Do you see the hypocrisy? How can you not? What if a Virginia bakery refused service to the Vice President? Would that be an outrage?

I'm sorry Rabbit but if this happened I'd certainly be against it and condemn it but I just haven't seen it.  I'm sure you will cite the event though.  The Red Hen owner should have that right to make that decision but to me, in today's environment, for a business owner to do such reflects more on them than their beliefs and in doing what they are doing, regardless if it is toward a democrat or a republican, is isolating their business to almost 50% of the potential clientele and that's economically crazy.  

I also have never heard of (although I admit it's possible) Conservatives acting in an unhinged way toward their liberal counterparts as is going on today.  The Democratic party is experiencing yet another seismic political shift to a much more socialist, if not communistic, type party Socialist Wins primary unseats Democratic stalwart. <--- URL Link to another story).  The Democratic party has in great part left its traditional voting base and that base has turned independent, for the most part, but often do vote Republican these days.  Those former Democrats gave Reagan his win in 1980 and gave Trump his win in 2016 along with Hillary being as disastrous a candidate as Jimmy Carter was, but for different reasons.  

Anymore Democrats rely on blindly devoted voters to give the power.  People that vote Democrat ("pull the donkey's tail") every election no matter who's running or what they stand for.   They, the Democratic party, is now looking to illegals to become the new voting block to give them their power because so many minorities and former Union people (Blue Color workers) are looking hard at a party they once supported without question in seeing that party's members take stances that are contrary to their own self-interest and good.  Like it or not the Democratic party is tipping toward the Socialist (and Communistic) directions and maybe that's alright and beneficial for you.  I hope though that centrist and more middle of the road Democrats can survive and take back the party.  I'd love to see a conservative wing of the Democratic party become established at the table of political power but I just don't see it.

One last thing regarding the Red Hen kicking Sander's out.  This is in no way a correlation or similar issue to the cake baker or photographer who refused to do a gay wedding.  In that case, the individuals affected were the ones exhibiting the acts with the service provider disagreed with.  The baker didn't want to participate in a Gay wedding as didn't the photographer. In the case of the Red Hen, it wasn't something Sarah Sanders did but rather who she worked for. It was as if the ower of the restaurant was reaching out to Trump by proxy using Sanders and wasn't due to Sanders herself.  Still, I believe a business owner has that right to chose to serve someone on or not but not based on certain discrimination issues such as race or color and I would put religious beliefs or political beliefs in there as well as other known discrimination issues.  

In the case of the gay weddings participating in an event that you hold strong religious convictions against should be a decision of the individual and government should not order them to compromise their faith by requiring them to serve those who participate in actions that are against their own faith.  Christians should not be allowed to deny service to non-Christians based on their beliefs or lack of them.  But in the case of the Red Hen they did wrong by taking the reservations and then seating them only to ask later, after they started their meal, for them to leave.  That was something that should have happened before the party ever got sat.

Biden wasn't refused service. Someone turned down a "photo op" with Biden, so what? Seth Rogan was on TV a few days ago bragging how he had done the same thing with VP Pence and another lefty "hero" was born.  It is a huge difference in saying "not interested" in a photo op, and walking over to people intending to eat in private and telling them they have to leave. I doubt Biden would have been refused service had he come in and ordered food to eat instead of trying to exploit the business owner for a photo op.  Another pitiful weak case of spin from the rabid left.

Injecting your opinion as fact is sure a funny way of accusing the 'left' of spinning the facts, isn't it? ha!

 

My opinion? That is exactly what happened. The shop owner refused a photo op, Biden was never near the place, was never refused service.

Had Biden come in to eat he would have been welcomed. He never got near the shop and was never refused service. He only wanted a photo op.

Snopes:

"Joe Biden was planning on stopping in a cookie store while campaigning in Virginia in 2012, but the store owner refused, saying he didn't want to pose for a photograph with Biden due to differing political opinions.

Biden was not refused service in person, and he was planning on visiting the store specifically for a political purpose rather than to eat there".

 

Also true-

Seth Rogan was on TV a few days ago bragging how he had done the same thing with VP Pence and another lefty "hero" was born.

 

 

 

 

 

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