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It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Will it be another case like Tom Carper? The women that went after Kavanaugh supported Dem Tom Carper, a wife beater, and Carper is still in office.

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Virginia Democratic Gov. Ralph Northam apologized Friday for appearing in a “racist and offensive” photo on his 1984 medical school yearbook page that showed one man dressed in blackface and another in a KKK robe, while giving no indication he plans to resign.

Northam – who has been under fire this week for comments made about a third-trimester abortion bill in his state – admitted to being one of the people in the photo, though it’s not clear which costume he is wearing.

Northam defeated Republican Ed Gillespie in Virginia’s 2017 gubernatorial race. During that contest, Democrats tried to link Gillespie to the torch-bearing white nationalists who infamously marched in Charlottesville. When he won, California Sen. Kamala Harris tweeted congratulations to Northam for "showing that Virginia won’t stand for hatred and bigotry."

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https://www.foxnews.com/politi...n-blackface-kkk-robe

Desperation met stupidity on the corner of bad luck and despair, and the democratic party was born.

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1130 posted:

not a fan of his,,, however it is crazy that people are being publicly criticized for things 20, 30 or more years ago.  How many of us are the same idiot we were 10 years ago, much less 20 plus years ago?   It just shows how reverse hate has taken over

As she said, it will be interesting to see what happens. If he was a Republican he would have been out of office five minutes after the photos hit the news. I especially like these parts- "Democrats tried to link Gillespie to the torch-bearing white nationalists who infamously marched in Charlottesville" and, "Kamala Harris tweeted congratulations to Northam for "showing that Virginia won’t stand for hatred and bigotry."

 

CNN -- the network that promotes the hashtag #FactsFirst -- mislabeled embattled Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam as a Republican on Friday during a segment about the Democrat's apology for his racist 1984 medical school yearbook photo.

The photo showed two men holding beers -- one dressed in blackface, the other in a KKK robe -- but Northam never made clear which one was him.

The CNN chyron that mistakenly called Northman a Republican aired Friday during "Anderson Cooper 360," the nightly show hosted by Anderson Cooper. The segment focused on a video in which Northam apologized for the nearly 35-year-old photograph.

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1130 posted:

not a fan of his,,, however it is crazy that people are being publicly criticized for things 20, 30 or more years ago.  How many of us are the same idiot we were 10 years ago, much less 20 plus years ago?   It just shows how reverse hate has taken over

Last month, Florida's secretary of state resigned after a local newspaper obtained photos of him dressed in blackface as a Hurricane Katrina victim.

L. Cranston posted:

Who cares what he did 35 years ago.

Isn't that the response Democrats got in reference to Roy Moore, Trump.... et. al. Republicans?

AP News story ... Democrats calling for heads

I agree however surely you realize that a Republican would never be given the benefit of the doubt and survive if this had happened to them.  Also in this case it's the Democrats that are coming down on one of their own and not Republicans.  

Related or non-related it could be said to be just desert or karma happening or whatever you want to term it for a Governor who supported post-birth abortion.  Maybe the best thing all around is for the State of Virginia to abort their Governor from the job, not from life.  

Don't worry though I'm sure just as liberal a replacement will be found.

"Related or non-related it could be said to be just desert or karma happening or whatever you want to term it for a Governor who supported post-birth abortion.  Maybe the best thing all around is for the State of Virginia to abort their Governor from the job, not from life".  

 Just a tiny little bit of justice for the millions of baby's that will be slaughtered after they're born! It wasn't good enough for dems to kill them in the womb. How long before the elderly, ill, disabled are deemed nonviable and denied medical aid, food, water, or are just outright euthanized? GBRK, how many "top name" democrats have called for him to resign?

Jutu posted:

"Related or non-related it could be said to be just desert or karma happening or whatever you want to term it for a Governor who supported post-birth abortion.  Maybe the best thing all around is for the State of Virginia to abort their Governor from the job, not from life".  

 Just a tiny little bit of justice for the millions of baby's that will be slaughtered after they're born! It wasn't good enough for dems to kill them in the womb. How long before the elderly, ill, disabled are deemed nonviable and denied medical aid, food, water, or are just outright euthanized?

"How long before the elderly, ill, disabled are deemed nonviable and denied medical aid, food, water, or are just outright euthanized?"  EXACTLY!!!!

This is the stuff that Hitler and Stalin would be proud of.  Also there is NO Justice or won't be, for the thousands of murdered infants because if there was no a single Democrat, that signed their name to it or backed it, would be re-elected.  That also goes for Republicans or anyone that would condone such.  There is a debate as to just when life actually begins, in the womb, but there is NO DEBATE whether a Child is viable and living at Birth.  This is out right Murder and anyone that believes otherwise I challenge to present the facts to back up their assumption.  

Here is the real injustice or real mystery.  Minorities are by far the greatest number aborted and was Margaret Sanger's targeted group when she started planned parenthood.  The Klan has been far overshadowed in the number of innocent minorities murdered yet Democrats and people like the ones that sponsored and supported this bill will be overwhelmingly re-elected and elected by the same minorities that suffer the greatest murders.  There is such outrage at blacks shot by the police, regardless of the conditions or circumstances yet no outcry by minorities at the huge, overwhelming, numbers of totally innocent, most innocent, minorities.  Is this just willfull ignorance or gross apathy on their part? 

Northam is the same age as I am. And I honestly say I'm not the same person I was when I was in college. Digging up stupid acts from 35 years ago doesn't necessarily mean he's a racist. Accept his apology and let's move on and let the Virginia voters decide.

However.....if he was a republican he would have been forced out by now.

smokey posted:

Northam is the same age as I am. And I honestly say I'm not the same person I was when I was in college. Digging up stupid acts from 35 years ago doesn't necessarily mean he's a racist. Accept his apology and let's move on and let the Virginia voters decide.

However.....if he was a republican he would have been forced out by now.

It's not up to us to accept his apology, and really why should anyone? IF they want to keep him it is up to them. If they want to get rid of him, same thing. I don't think they are bothered by what he did, only that it can be used against him and them. Most likely they knew before this.

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Jutu posted:
smokey posted:

Northam is the same age as I am. And I honestly say I'm not the same person I was when I was in college. Digging up stupid acts from 35 years ago doesn't necessarily mean he's a racist. Accept his apology and let's move on and let the Virginia voters decide.

However.....if he was a republican he would have been forced out by now.

It's not up to us to accept his apology, and really why should anyone? IF they want to keep him it is up to them. If they want to get rid of him, same thing. I don't think they are bothered by what he did, only that it can be used against him and them. Most likely they knew before this.

You mean sorta like Trump? Your hypocrisy is showing, again.

gbrk posted:
Jutu posted:

"Related or non-related it could be said to be just desert or karma happening or whatever you want to term it for a Governor who supported post-birth abortion.  Maybe the best thing all around is for the State of Virginia to abort their Governor from the job, not from life".  

 Just a tiny little bit of justice for the millions of baby's that will be slaughtered after they're born! It wasn't good enough for dems to kill them in the womb. How long before the elderly, ill, disabled are deemed nonviable and denied medical aid, food, water, or are just outright euthanized?

"How long before the elderly, ill, disabled are deemed nonviable and denied medical aid, food, water, or are just outright euthanized?"  EXACTLY!!!!

This is the stuff that Hitler and Stalin would be proud of.  Also there is NO Justice or won't be, for the thousands of murdered infants because if there was no a single Democrat, that signed their name to it or backed it, would be re-elected.  That also goes for Republicans or anyone that would condone such.  There is a debate as to just when life actually begins, in the womb, but there is NO DEBATE whether a Child is viable and living at Birth.  This is out right Murder and anyone that believes otherwise I challenge to present the facts to back up their assumption.  

Here is the real injustice or real mystery.  Minorities are by far the greatest number aborted and was Margaret Sanger's targeted group when she started planned parenthood.  The Klan has been far overshadowed in the number of innocent minorities murdered yet Democrats and people like the ones that sponsored and supported this bill will be overwhelmingly re-elected and elected by the same minorities that suffer the greatest murders.  There is such outrage at blacks shot by the police, regardless of the conditions or circumstances yet no outcry by minorities at the huge, overwhelming, numbers of totally innocent, most innocent, minorities.  Is this just willfull ignorance or gross apathy on their part? 

https://www.npr.org/2017/12/07...s-story-explains-why

https://www.healthline.com/hea...for-women-of-color#3

Maybe we should rethink the way we look at healthcare in the US.

Everyone does stupid things they were young.  The question is did they gain any wisdom from their youth.  If a person didn't, how fit are they to lead?  Northam was almost ready to moonwalk across the stage as if to say blackface wasn't a problem.  There is a difference between interacting with people you don't agree with ideologically in your daily life, and leading people of diverse backgrounds.

If.... I was a gop supporter, and I wanted to claim the democrats are "the real racists," then I would want Northam and Steve King to resign. 

It is the people of Virginia's decision to keep or remove him from office, as it should be.  That, though, didn't prevent a host of people from outside Alabama from reaching into and affecting the Senatorial election here in Alabama.  Any more people from outside every state will be attempting to affect races within each state in hopes to solidify their power in Congress and at the national level.  So while I agree it does belong to the people of Virginia how to handle this the world (of social media) that we live in today makes that virtually impossible to happen.

For me his more egregious action was his approach to post birth abortions or third trimester abortions.  As a physician makes it even more difficult to understand for he, if anyone, should be able to know that viable life occurs way prior to actual birth but surely at birth.

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There is so much bias and hypocrisy in the media it's beyond measure.  The media was all willing to roast and condemn or crucify Bret Kavanaugh for just being accused (falsely I believe) of things when much younger and then there was Roy Moore and the work done on him.  Lets also not forget the recent attempts to crucify the kids from the Kentucky Catholic school for absolutely nothing that they did themselves but for just being mostly white and Christian and the real nasty thing they did was to dawn the MAGA hats.  

  

L. Cranston posted:

Trump couldn't 'drop a dime' on anyone except maybe the Russians.

You can forget the Russians because that is a concoction of many desperate for something to get Trump on.  I believe Trump was no more involved with Russians than Hillary was and if there was dirt on Trump available, from the Russians, to Hillary she would have taken it and run with it. 

Do the Russians want to influence our elections?  YES!  Always have and always will just like every other nation for whatever reason benefits them.  It's also no secret that our nation, America, the US, does the same and seeks to influence elections across the world for our own benefit.  You will, as will everyone else, find out that there was no activities, by the Russians and no collusion involving Trump, that actually affected our US elections.  What did effect our elections was Hillary's own actions and demeanor toward people.  She just wasn't liked enough in her own party and there was enough baggage following her around that Trump was able to take advantage of it even with his own baggage trailing him.  

As for the "Russian collusion" story or investigation it's the biggest waste of money and much ado about nothing that there has been.  There's plenty to investigate but Russian collusion is not one of those things.  Did Trump want a hotel in Moscow or Russia?  I bet he did, from the standpoint of his own personal business interest, but I have no doubt Trump is as patriotically American as most other citizens and Muller's investigation will end up being downplayed and end  up disappointing most who have some hopes there will be some smoking gun to crucify Trump with.

Sure

gbrk posted:
L. Cranston posted:

Trump couldn't 'drop a dime' on anyone except maybe the Russians.

......

As for the "Russian collusion" story or investigation it's the biggest waste of money and much ado about nothing that there has been.  There's plenty to investigate but Russian collusion is not one of those things.  Did Trump want a hotel in Moscow or Russia?  I bet he did, from the standpoint of his own personal business interest, but I have no doubt Trump is as patriotically American as most other citizens and Muller's investigation will end up being downplayed and end  up disappointing most who have some hopes there will be some smoking gun to crucify Trump with.

I'm sure that if Obama had behaved as Trump is, you and the other forum Republicans would be screaming to have him impeached. Hillary did nothing and the Republicans still scream about it with almost every post.

RiverDance posted:
For someone to say " Hillary did nothing and the Republicans still
scream about it with almost every post" would be the most
uninformed of the uninformed ever. 
If Obomo had accomplished half of what Trump has helda would've  

been elected.

Exactly how many "investigations" do Republicans need before they're satisfied? Republicans have been investigating the Clintons for in excess of 20 years. Republicans must really be stupid or the most inept investigators in the world.

 

investigations by congress are about the press coverage and votes.  Both sides grandstand in front of the media.   Thus the view of drain the swamp.    If anyone is listening or getting their talking points from the media (be it CNN or Fox) they are getting fooled.   The talking heads for the big media companies are making millions to stir things up. Which in turn gets them more advertisers.  

1130 posted:

investigations by congress are about the press coverage and votes.  Both sides grandstand in front of the media.   Thus the view of drain the swamp.    If anyone is listening or getting their talking points from the media (be it CNN or Fox) they are getting fooled.   The talking heads for the big media companies are making millions to stir things up. Which in turn gets them more advertisers.  

You're just realizing this?  What do you think drain the swamp, build the wall, lock her up, and maga is about?  Talking points...to fool people.  

RiverDance posted:
RiverDance posted:
For someone to say " Hillary did nothing and the Republicans still
scream about it with almost every post" would be the most
uninformed of the uninformed ever. 
If Obomo had accomplished half of what Trump has helda would've  

been elected.

Just an outside chance to restore order

And what would that be?  

RiverDance posted:
RiverDance posted:
For someone to say " Hillary did nothing and the Republicans still
scream about it with almost every post" would be the most
uninformed of the uninformed ever. 
If Obomo had accomplished half of what Trump has helda would've  

been elected.

Just an outside chance to restore order

Or, as they said in certain parts of Europe, circa the early 1940s, Alles ist in Ordnung!  Ihre papiere, bitte!

direstraits posted:
RiverDance posted:
RiverDance posted:
For someone to say " Hillary did nothing and the Republicans still
scream about it with almost every post" would be the most
uninformed of the uninformed ever. 
If Obomo had accomplished half of what Trump has helda would've  

been elected.

Just an outside chance to restore order

Or, as they said in certain parts of Europe, circa the early 1940s, Alles ist in Ordnung!  Ihre papiere, bitte!

And freedom papers in America.

Naio posted:
1130 posted:

investigations by congress are about the press coverage and votes.  Both sides grandstand in front of the media.   Thus the view of drain the swamp.    If anyone is listening or getting their talking points from the media (be it CNN or Fox) they are getting fooled.   The talking heads for the big media companies are making millions to stir things up. Which in turn gets them more advertisers.  

You're just realizing this?  What do you think drain the swamp, build the wall, lock her up, and maga is about?  Talking points...to fool people.  

And is this where we pretend a businessman president somehow doesn't understand marketing, advertising, and branding?

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