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Dr. John posted:
Dr. John posted:

Jack, could you site even one example of a sexual reassignment surgery the government has paid for outside of a prison setting?

Since no one has criticized me, I'll criticize myself. I meant to say "cite," but typed "site." Jutu, you missed a great chance!

That's OK since it's you that so dearly loves to run through correcting people... and just look...you got the thrill of doing it to yourself.

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Additionally, some state and federal public employees are covered for transition-related care through their group benefit plans. Medicare/Medicaid: ... Medicare provides for transgender healthcare such as routine medically necessary care, hormone replacement therapy and gender reassignment surgeries.

 

What Does Medicare Cover for Transgender People?

Medicare covers routine preventive care regardless of gender markers.
Medicare covers routine preventive care, including mammograms, pelvic and prostate exams. Medicare has to cover this type of care regardless of the gender marker in your Social Security records, as long as the care is clinically necessary for you. The Medicare manual has a specific billing code (condition code 45) to assist processing of claims under original Medicare (Parts A and B). This billing code should be used by your physician or hospital when submitting billing claims for services where gender mis-matches may be a problem.

Medicare covers medically necessary hormone therapy.
Medicare also covers medically necessary hormone therapy for transgender people. These medications are part of Medicare Part D lists of covered medications and should be covered when prescribed. Private Medicare plans should provide coverage for these prescriptions. All Medicare beneficiaries have a right to access prescription drugs that are appropriate to their medical needs.

Medicare covers medically necessary transition-related surgery.
For many years, Medicare did not cover transition-related surgery due to a decades-old policy that categorized such treatment as "experimental." That exclusion was eliminated in 2014, and there is now no national exclusion for transition-related health care under Medicare.

In practice, this means coverage for transition-related care will be decided on a case-by-case basis, no different than how Medicare handles coverage for most other medical treatments. For example, in 2015 the Medicare Appeals Council issued a decision ordering a Medicare plan to pay for transition-related surgery for a transgender woman because it was reasonable and necessary to treat gender dysphoria.

Some Medicare Advantage plans and local Medicare contractors have specific policies for coverage of transition-related care that serve as guidelines for their decision to authorize coverage.

Last edited by Jutu
Jutu posted:
Dr. John posted:
Dr. John posted:

Jack, could you site even one example of a sexual reassignment surgery the government has paid for outside of a prison setting?

Since no one has criticized me, I'll criticize myself. I meant to say "cite," but typed "site." Jutu, you missed a great chance!

That's OK since it's you that so dearly loves to run through correcting people... and just look...you got the thrill of doing it to yourself.

**********************************

Additionally, some state and federal public employees are covered for transition-related care through their group benefit plans. Medicare/Medicaid: ... Medicare provides for transgender healthcare such as routine medically necessary care, hormone replacement therapy and gender reassignment surgeries.

 

What Does Medicare Cover for Transgender People?

Medicare covers routine preventive care regardless of gender markers.
Medicare covers routine preventive care, including mammograms, pelvic and prostate exams. Medicare has to cover this type of care regardless of the gender marker in your Social Security records, as long as the care is clinically necessary for you. The Medicare manual has a specific billing code (condition code 45) to assist processing of claims under original Medicare (Parts A and B). This billing code should be used by your physician or hospital when submitting billing claims for services where gender mis-matches may be a problem.

Medicare covers medically necessary hormone therapy.
Medicare also covers medically necessary hormone therapy for transgender people. These medications are part of Medicare Part D lists of covered medications and should be covered when prescribed. Private Medicare plans should provide coverage for these prescriptions. All Medicare beneficiaries have a right to access prescription drugs that are appropriate to their medical needs.

Medicare covers medically necessary transition-related surgery.
For many years, Medicare did not cover transition-related surgery due to a decades-old policy that categorized such treatment as "experimental." That exclusion was eliminated in 2014, and there is now no national exclusion for transition-related health care under Medicare.

In practice, this means coverage for transition-related care will be decided on a case-by-case basis, no different than how Medicare handles coverage for most other medical treatments. For example, in 2015 the Medicare Appeals Council issued a decision ordering a Medicare plan to pay for transition-related surgery for a transgender woman because it was reasonable and necessary to treat gender dysphoria.

Some Medicare Advantage plans and local Medicare contractors have specific policies for coverage of transition-related care that serve as guidelines for their decision to authorize coverage.

Well there you go, proof via a court case ouch!

HIFLYER2 posted:
Jutu posted:
Dr. John posted:
Dr. John posted:

Jack, could you site even one example of a sexual reassignment surgery the government has paid for outside of a prison setting?

Since no one has criticized me, I'll criticize myself. I meant to say "cite," but typed "site." Jutu, you missed a great chance!

That's OK since it's you that so dearly loves to run through correcting people... and just look...you got the thrill of doing it to yourself.

**********************************

Additionally, some state and federal public employees are covered for transition-related care through their group benefit plans. Medicare/Medicaid: ... Medicare provides for transgender healthcare such as routine medically necessary care, hormone replacement therapy and gender reassignment surgeries.

 

What Does Medicare Cover for Transgender People?

Medicare covers routine preventive care regardless of gender markers.
Medicare covers routine preventive care, including mammograms, pelvic and prostate exams. Medicare has to cover this type of care regardless of the gender marker in your Social Security records, as long as the care is clinically necessary for you. The Medicare manual has a specific billing code (condition code 45) to assist processing of claims under original Medicare (Parts A and B). This billing code should be used by your physician or hospital when submitting billing claims for services where gender mis-matches may be a problem.

Medicare covers medically necessary hormone therapy.
Medicare also covers medically necessary hormone therapy for transgender people. These medications are part of Medicare Part D lists of covered medications and should be covered when prescribed. Private Medicare plans should provide coverage for these prescriptions. All Medicare beneficiaries have a right to access prescription drugs that are appropriate to their medical needs.

Medicare covers medically necessary transition-related surgery.
For many years, Medicare did not cover transition-related surgery due to a decades-old policy that categorized such treatment as "experimental." That exclusion was eliminated in 2014, and there is now no national exclusion for transition-related health care under Medicare.

In practice, this means coverage for transition-related care will be decided on a case-by-case basis, no different than how Medicare handles coverage for most other medical treatments. For example, in 2015 the Medicare Appeals Council issued a decision ordering a Medicare plan to pay for transition-related surgery for a transgender woman because it was reasonable and necessary to treat gender dysphoria.

Some Medicare Advantage plans and local Medicare contractors have specific policies for coverage of transition-related care that serve as guidelines for their decision to authorize coverage.

Well there you go, proof via a court case ouch!

Proof of what? Court case?

Dr John asked for proof of transgender surgery by tax dollars outside of prison.

The Last Paragraph says it’s happened and medicare is supported by tax dollars.

For example, in 2015 the Medicare Appeals Council issued a decision ordering a Medicare plan to pay for transition-related surgery for a transgender woman because it was reasonable and necessary to treat gender dysphoria.

Some Medicare Advantage plans and local Medicare contractors have specific policies for coverage of transition-related care that serve as guidelines for their decision to authorize coverage.

It's ridiculous to consider coverage for transition-related care no matter 
where the money comes from, it's anything but necessary to treat gender dysphoria. It's all BS and no different than abortion for birth control.
 
You can receive free condoms or panties for the guys or what ever the
case may be, nothing but a scam.
Jack Hammer posted:
It's ridiculous to consider coverage for transition-related care no matter 
where the money comes from, it's anything but necessary to treat gender dysphoria. It's all BS and no different than abortion for birth control.
 
You can receive free condoms or panties for the guys or what ever the
case may be, nothing but a scam.

Ohh how times have changed.  I remember when you had to scrape up your money just to be able to find one of those tall, thin, metal machines usually in some seedy places bathroom that you'd drop a quarter in and turn so you could get one of those small packs out and you'd position it ohh so carefully so that the outline of it's contents would show that definable ring impression on your wallet which you would then slip into the back pocket of your pants.  It wasn't that you were buying it to use the dang thing but rather you would buy it so you could make all your friends and everyone else think you were doing something that you never had the luck or nerve to actually do.  

That might be a day in high school but today you have kids in elementary able to discuss things you never had any idea was going on or much less what they were or what they meant.  Then, in the boys room, you'd be discussing who you would love to be able to kiss or maybe, at senior prom, "get lucky" with.  Today, in most elementary schools you have kids talking about what things the few things you haven't had the chance to do yet and usually it's a short list.  Maybe it's the internet I don't know but I can remember as an older teen you'd go to the barber shop, usually much more often than you needed just in hopes to catch a look at one of the Playboy magazines that many had lying around.  Today, thanks to the internet, and easily available **** sites there is nothing that is left to a Childs imagination or curiosity.  

HIFLYER2 posted:

Dr John asked for proof of transgender surgery by tax dollars outside of prison.

The Last Paragraph says it’s happened and medicare is supported by tax dollars.

For example, in 2015 the Medicare Appeals Council issued a decision ordering a Medicare plan to pay for transition-related surgery for a transgender woman because it was reasonable and necessary to treat gender dysphoria.

Some Medicare Advantage plans and local Medicare contractors have specific policies for coverage of transition-related care that serve as guidelines for their decision to authorize coverage.

Oh...OK. You lost me there for a minute. I thought you were talking to me.

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To Jutu and Hiflyer:

I get paid every two weeks. Over 1/3 of my income goes to the "ducks." One large duck covers Medicare. In other words, I pay for both Social Security and Medicare.

If I'm injured and go on disability or if I retire at 70, I will get Medicare. I say "get," but even though I've paid in for years, I'll still be paying a pretty large chunk of cash to the Medicare program.

Then if I have a hernia, broken arm, whatever, Medicare will pay at least something on it. Is this free? No. I've paid on my Medicare for years. 

Not to denigrate people on Medicaid, but I get really irritated when people mix up Medicaid and Medicare. I get even more irritated when people imply Medicare is something totally free the government gives us. 

Obviously due to the criteria for Medicare, being retirement age is the biggest, not that many people on that program seek gender reassignment surgery. For the few on Medicare who do, they've paid their money for years and years.

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