Two major things happened today that couldn't be more indicative of today's political environment. 

On one hand, the President (President Trump) signs a historic trade deal with China, a nation that has historically taken advantage of our Trade relationship.  An agreement that sent the stock market, indicative of our Nations's business environment and economic progress, into new unprecedented levels.  On the other hand, in Washington you have the Democrats marching the two counts for impeachment to the Senate in order to impeach this unprecedented President.  

Why Impeach Trump?  Mainly, since there is no evidence or no valid reasons for impeachment, it's a political move in an attempt to remove a President whom the Democrats, increasingly, believe that they cannot defeat at the ballot by any other means or methods.  Democrats have proven that they are a political party that cares not for the Constitution, by their very actions, but instead will do anything, legal or illegal, good or harmful to the nation in order to gain or win political power.  Almost 100% of the accusations that they level against their political adversaries are they, themselves, not only guilty of, but in many cases perfected doing themselves.

There has never, at any time that I can remember, reading about, studying about, as many politicians of a political party that are participating willingly in treasonous acts in an attempt to circumvent a national election's results or to affect an upcoming election.  Furthermore, we have an enormous number of people, voters, the electorate, Americans (and non-Americans) willing to accept what these people are doing and participate in it.  Lastly add that a willing and culpable national media seeking the same outcome all rooted in a derangement, mostly, over one man who bested all of them.

Truly Unprecedented!

 I really wanted to be and thought myself to be independent however the unprecedented actions of today's Democratic Party and politicians have created a political environment that makes it impossible to be impartial and independent.  It is increasingly more becoming a situation of being true to the Constitution or seeking a change in our Nation's government at all levels and an abandoning of our Constitution.  

Be as the Bereans ( Acts 17:11 )

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If you can't see the corruption in Trump's Administration, after the newest release of information, you're willingly ignoring the plain and simple facts.

I'm sorry, but it seems Lev kept his "blue dress" as well.

I might believe the impeachment evidence if democrats hadn't started talking impeachment the day after election.   or if they were concerned with the corruption of Biden.   Simple it is a political coup.  President Trump is doing things he said twenty years ago needed to be done.  Many of us talked long ago how taxpayers, businesses were being screwed with the democrat trade deals.  Sadly we had to watch democrat families (and some republicans) get kick backs.

I suppose those chants of 'lock her up' were  in support of Hillary? Republicans have been after the Clintons since Bill beat Bush1. I'd be concerned about Biden if Republicans were concerned with Trump's whole family. You can't complain about a double standard, while promoting a double standard.

1130 posted:

I might believe the impeachment evidence if democrats hadn't started talking impeachment the day after election.   or if they were concerned with the corruption of Biden.   Simple it is a political coup.  President Trump is doing things he said twenty years ago needed to be done.  Many of us talked long ago how taxpayers, businesses were being screwed with the democrat trade deals.  Sadly we had to watch democrat families (and some republicans) get kick backs.

Exactly!  All this talk about Lev dishing on Trump but what I see is a man that's going to say anything to keep his own self out of prison.  All this talk about Trump yet NO talk about Biden and doing what he did when he was VP.  People talk like they have smoking guns with Trump but what they have is people threatened with loss of their liberty and freedom unless they say something against the man yet with Biden we have recorded and visual proof of him (Biden) bragging about holding back money unless a prosecutor is fired.  But nothing there, no corruption .. why?  Because he's a Democrat and running for President as a Democrat.  

If Trump truly desired to break the law, intended to do something like that do you think he'd of done it with so many people on the phone, knowing that everyone was listening?  Like was said almost all Democrats and liberals have from the moment Trump won over their glory girl, plotted and schemed and attempted to create situations that would enable them to perform their coup which was their plan from the start.  These people are the most disgusting excuse for politicians and government workers.  Though people don't see their corruption in attempts to frame Trump or set Trump up all they see is what they want and what their derangement leads them to see.

They still can't get over being beat in 2016.  They embody the very things they accuse Trump of doing.  They created a Russian Hoax in an attempt to smear Trump, created millions of dollars of wasted investigation that as slanted and biased from the start with all Democratic donors and Hillary supporters running it yet even with all this couldn't trap Trump.  Muller exposed himself as just a figurehead which was doubtful that he even could conceive of what was going on.  The real strings were pulled by people dedicated to take down Trump yet they failed so from Russia to Ukraine and even with this, they will fail.

The real enjoyment, for conservatives, is to know that every day of their existence the derangement eats itself even deeper into their brains and they seethe and become more and more beside themselves with each Trump's success and victory.  The real tripping point when heads will literally explode will be the point IF Trump actually wins re-election for another four years.  It won't stop their efforts but it will bring torrents of liberals to tears as the derangement turns terminal.

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gbrk posted:
1130 posted:

I might believe the impeachment evidence if democrats hadn't started talking impeachment the day after election.   or if they were concerned with the corruption of Biden.   Simple it is a political coup.  President Trump is doing things he said twenty years ago needed to be done.  Many of us talked long ago how taxpayers, businesses were being screwed with the democrat trade deals.  Sadly we had to watch democrat families (and some republicans) get kick backs.

Exactly!  All this talk about Lev dishing on Trump but what I see is a man that's going to say anything to keep his own self out of prison.  All this talk about Trump yet NO talk about Biden and doing what he did when he was VP.  People talk like they have smoking guns with Trump but what they have is people threatened with loss of their liberty and freedom unless they say something against the man yet with Biden we have recorded and visual proof of him (Biden) bragging about holding back money unless a prosecutor is fired.  But nothing there, no corruption .. why?  Because he's a Democrat and running for President as a Democrat.  

If Trump truly desired to break the law, intended to do something like that do you think he'd of done it with so many people on the phone, knowing that everyone was listening?  Like was said almost all Democrats and liberals have from the moment Trump won over their glory girl, plotted and schemed and attempted to create situations that would enable them to perform their coup which was their plan from the start.  These people are the most disgusting excuse for politicians and government workers.  Though people don't see their corruption in attempts to frame Trump or set Trump up all they see is what they want and what their derangement leads them to see.

They still can't get over being beat in 2016.  They embody the very things they accuse Trump of doing.  They created a Russian Hoax in an attempt to smear Trump, created millions of dollars of wasted investigation that as slanted and biased from the start with all Democratic donors and Hillary supporters running it yet even with all this couldn't trap Trump.  Muller exposed himself as just a figurehead which was doubtful that he even could conceive of what was going on.  The real strings were pulled by people dedicated to take down Trump yet they failed so from Russia to Ukraine and even with this, they will fail.

The real enjoyment, for conservatives, is to know that every day of their existence the derangement eats itself even deeper into their brains and they seethe and become more and more beside themselves with each Trump's success and victory.  The real tripping point when heads will literally explode will be the point IF Trump actually wins re-election for another four years.  It won't stop their efforts but it will bring torrents of liberals to tears as the derangement turns terminal.

Facts should matter to everyone , not just Democrats. Your final paragraph is all anyone needs to see to understand you've been blinded by your hate for anything deemed 'liberal'.

IF Trump doesn't get re-elected, Republicans will make a run on antidepressants. Talk about derangement syndrome. Republicans can't seem to see the forest for all those darn trees.

Said the Qberry water boy, the world hasn't seen a more anti America 
American sociopath obsessing to the point of a neurotic melt down
 when Trump, just in time, stepped in the way of the socialist/communist
turning the continent of North America over to the UN. Deny that.
 

 

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Jack Hammer posted:
Said the Qberry water boy, the world hasn't seen a more anti America 
American sociopath obsessing to the point of a neurotic melt down
 when Trump, just in time, stepped in the way of the socialist/communist
turning the continent of North America over to the UN. Deny that.
 

 

I can't deny you don't have a coherent thought. It's obvious by your inane rambling that you're triggered. Try again after you calm down and get your meds refilled.

Jack Hammer posted:
Said the Qberry water boy, the world hasn't seen a more anti America 
American sociopath obsessing to the point of a neurotic melt down
 when Trump, just in time, stepped in the way of the socialist/communist
turning the continent of North America over to the UN. Deny that.
 

 

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major dif on Biden family and Trump family.  Biden bragged on camera of extorting Ukraine.  Hunter Biden rode VP plane to other countries and came back a rich man.   Trump was already rich, he has donated everyone of his presidential checks. His kids volunteer in their roles.  No where have I heard of them receiving deals because of their father's position.  Unlike Hunter, and of course Chelsea who received huge paychecks from NBC and the Clinton foundation.  We have also spoken out about Romney who has ties to Ukraine.  Also about McCain, whose daughter only has a job because of her father.     

Trump is not a saint, he was hired to clean the swamp DC of corruption.  This is both democrats and republicans.  Sadly democrat voters are blind? stupid? ignorant?.   

What concerns me is there are corrupt republicans in the senate.  How many will turn on Trump to protect their stealing from tax payers.

1130 posted:

major dif on Biden family and Trump family.  Biden bragged on camera of extorting Ukraine.  Hunter Biden rode VP plane to other countries and came back a rich man.   Trump was already rich, he has donated everyone of his presidential checks. His kids volunteer in their roles.  No where have I heard of them receiving deals because of their father's position.  Unlike Hunter, and of course Chelsea who received huge paychecks from NBC and the Clinton foundation.  We have also spoken out about Romney who has ties to Ukraine.  Also about McCain, whose daughter only has a job because of her father.     

Trump is not a saint, he was hired to clean the swamp DC of corruption.  This is both democrats and republicans.  Sadly democrat voters are blind? stupid? ignorant?.   

What concerns me is there are corrupt republicans in the senate.  How many will turn on Trump to protect their stealing from tax payers.

First. Biden had support of SEVERAL COUNTRIES as well as UKRAINIAN OFFICIALS.  The man fired wasn't prosecuting corruption and was PART OF THE PROBLEMS IN THE UKRAINE.

Trump was hunting dirt on a political opponent.

BIG DIFFERENCE.

Next, prove Trump has any money whatsoever. I'll wait.

Trump has his name on a lot of things, but you have no idea who owns any of it or what part Trump may/may not own.  Trump's kids work in the Whitehouse. Ivanka got MILLIONS in trademarks from China while Trump has been in office and hundreds of millions from the Saudis. Again, while Trump has been in office. As soon as I see Republicans jump on those investigations, I'd be inclined to believe the narrative about Biden. You don't get to point fingers at Biden and not acknowledge the actions by Trump.

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Jack Hammer posted:

Most of us know Biden isn't the one on trial. 

 

Then exactly why do you think the Bidens should be called as witnesses in the impeachment of Trump?

 

the Ukraine govt was dirty when biden pulled his stunt,,, the new regime came in to Ukraine after Trump was elected.  I have never heard or seen anything of Ivanka getting millions. If that was true then the mainstream media would be all over it.    Bidens called as witness cuz they are dirty as a pig pen.  I do get to point fingers anyplace I want.  Especially when people like you are after the president cuz of blind hate and ignore the corruption of people like Biden... and you don't get to tell me what I can or can't do, hahaha

1130 posted:

the Ukraine govt was dirty when biden pulled his stunt,,, the new regime came in to Ukraine after Trump was elected.  I have never heard or seen anything of Ivanka getting millions. If that was true then the mainstream media would be all over it.    Bidens called as witness cuz they are dirty as a pig pen.  I do get to point fingers anyplace I want.  Especially when people like you are after the president cuz of blind hate and ignore the corruption of people like Biden... and you don't get to tell me what I can or can't do, hahaha

Hahahahahahaha! Why does Biden have to do with Trump's impeachment?

Even if Biden is the most corrupt person on earth, still what does it have to do with Biden testifying at the impeachment trial? Trump did all this. Biden isn't POTUS, yet.

What's really hilarious is the Democrats have presented the Senate with two articles of impeachment neither of which contains or cites any laws broken.  One item alleges abuse of power and the other "obstruction of Congress".  Regarding the obstruction of Congress that should be dismissed without even making it to a Senate vote because the President did the right, and correct, and constitutional thing by taking it to court for the Court to rule whether he had the right to claim executive privilege to keep certain people from being forced to testify.  The House didn't follow procedure but wrote their own and didn't wait for the court, as they should have but instead cried foul and obstruction of Congress because they didn't get their way.  They already had a sham investigation where the President wasn't allowed to counter any of the accusations or present his side and Republicans were denied their right to call the witnesses or people they wanted to call.  It's a sham and a Political attempt at a coup.  

Even if both assertions were true there is no specified law that the President broke warranting impeachment.  The Democrats pulled the bribery charge because they were afraid it would ensnare their 2020 boy Biden into it.  I don't know which Conservative commentator, Rush or a FOX news commentator or news reporter who said it but the Democrats are just like Wile E. Coyote with Trump being the Road Runner.  Every time they think they have him trapped and cornered their ACME accusation package blows up in their face

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These Democrats are soooo predictable.  Every trap the democrats have laid for Trump he has turned on them and blown it up like when he released the actual transcripts of the phone call that the "Whistle Blower" talked about which totally revealed Adam Schiffs statements, about the call, to be complete 100% lies.  It was as if Schiff didn't know the transcripts were released but he couldn't help himself he had to adlib, or worse, put his own spin on it.  

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"The President doesn't even have to commit a crime to be impeached. If the President uses his office to hurt someone , he's committed a high crime."
Lindsay Graham 1999

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