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"No president should fear public scrutiny of his program."
"Without debate, without criticism no republic can survive."
Great words equally applicable to Bush or Obama. Fox News, MSNBC, Rush, Ed Schultz there is room for all of them.
"Without debate, without criticism no republic can survive."
Great words equally applicable to Bush or Obama. Fox News, MSNBC, Rush, Ed Schultz there is room for all of them.
OMG!
Do you have any idea where or why JFK gave this speach?
Do you have any idea where or why JFK gave this speach?
JFK: One notable individual who vowed to shut down the Federal Reserve System was President John F. Kennedy. On June 4, 1963, he signed Executive Order 11110, which legally abolished it. On November 22, 1963 he was assassinated.
Lincoln: "At the moment I have 2 enemies. In front there is the army to the south, at my rear is the central banks. Of the 2 I fear the one behind me the most. For if it is left unchecked, the corporations that would spring up and the evil that would be released unto the world as a result." Assasinated.
Hoover: Hoover:"there is a conspiracy that is so well thought out and so deep into the governments of the world that anyone would think it was crazy"
Hoover also investigated Prescott Bush for treason (documented in the library of Congress) and siezed a bank he owned for laundering money for Hitlers 2nd in command.
Investigated GWB Sr for ordering the assassination of JFK, was proven in a court case when Hunt (a cia assassin) was accused in a magazine of leading the assassination in a magazine, sued the magazine and lost because of the mounting evidence to support the accusation that was placed in the magazine.
Then Bush jr was investigated for being compliant in allowing the attack on the US by Al-qeuda a group trained by GWB sr. No conspiracy though. Be afraid of terrorists.
Could George Bush be involved in the JFK assassination?
In 1963, Bush was living in Houston, busily carrying out his duties as president of the Zapata Offshore oil company. He denied the existence of a note sent by the FBI's J. Edgar Hoover to "Mr. George Bush of the CIA." When news of the note surfaced, the CIA first said they never commented on employment questions, but later relented said yes, a "George Bush" was mentioned in the note, but that it was "another" George Bush, not the man who took office in the White House in 1988.
Some intrepid reporters tracked down the "other" George Bush and discovered that he was just a lowly clerk who had shuffled papers for the CIA for about six months. He never received any interagency messages from anybody at the FBI, let alone the Queen Mary.
It is also worth noting that a CIA code word for Bay of Pigs was Operation Zapata, and that two of the support vessels were named Barbara and Houston.
Many say that George Bush was high up on the CIA ladder at the time, running proprietorial vehicles and placed in a position of command, responsible for many of the Cubans recruited into "service" at the time. All through the Iran-Contra affair, Felix Rodriguez, the man who captured and had Che Guevara killed for the CIA, always seemed to call Bush's office first.
From The Realist (Summer, 1991):
"Bush was working with the now-famous CIA agent, Felix Rodriguez, recruiting right-wing Cuban exiles for the invasion of Cuba. It was Bush's CIA job to organize the Cuban community in Miami for the invasion.... A newly discovered FBI document reveals that George Bush was directly involved in the 1963 murder of President John Kennedy. The document places marksmen by the CIA. Bush at that time lived in Texas. Hopping from Houston to Miami weekly, Bush spent 1960 and '61 recruiting Cubans in Miami for the invasion....
"George Bush claims he never worked for the CIA until he was appointed Director by former Warren Commission director and then president Jerry Ford in 1976. Logic suggests that is highly unlikely. Of course, Bush has a company duty to deny being in the CIA. The CIA is a secret organization. No one ever admits to being a member. The truth is that Bush has been a top CIA official since before the 1961 invasion of Cuba, working with Felix Rodriguez. Bush may deny his actual role in the CIA in 1959, but there are records in the Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba that expose Bush's role..."
On the Watergate tapes, June 23, 1972, referred to in the media as the 'smoking gun' conversation, Nixon and his Chief of Staff, H.R. Haldeman, were discussing how to stop the FBI investigation into the CIA Watergate burglary. They were worried that the investigation would expose their connection to 'the Bay of Pigs thing.' Haldeman, in his book "The Ends of Power", reveals that Nixon always used code words when talking about the 1963 murder of JFK. Haldeman said Nixon would always refer to the assassination as 'the Bay of Pigs'.
On that transcript we find Nixon discussing the role of George Bush's partner, Robert Mosbacher, as one of the Texas fundraisers for Nixon. On the tapes Nixon keeps referring to the 'Cubans' and the 'Texans.' The 'Texans' were Bush, Mosbacher and Baker. This is another direct link between Bush and evidence linking Nixon and Bush to the Kennedy assassination."
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com...fk_assassination.htm
Lincoln: "At the moment I have 2 enemies. In front there is the army to the south, at my rear is the central banks. Of the 2 I fear the one behind me the most. For if it is left unchecked, the corporations that would spring up and the evil that would be released unto the world as a result." Assasinated.
Hoover: Hoover:"there is a conspiracy that is so well thought out and so deep into the governments of the world that anyone would think it was crazy"
Hoover also investigated Prescott Bush for treason (documented in the library of Congress) and siezed a bank he owned for laundering money for Hitlers 2nd in command.
Investigated GWB Sr for ordering the assassination of JFK, was proven in a court case when Hunt (a cia assassin) was accused in a magazine of leading the assassination in a magazine, sued the magazine and lost because of the mounting evidence to support the accusation that was placed in the magazine.
Then Bush jr was investigated for being compliant in allowing the attack on the US by Al-qeuda a group trained by GWB sr. No conspiracy though. Be afraid of terrorists.
Could George Bush be involved in the JFK assassination?
In 1963, Bush was living in Houston, busily carrying out his duties as president of the Zapata Offshore oil company. He denied the existence of a note sent by the FBI's J. Edgar Hoover to "Mr. George Bush of the CIA." When news of the note surfaced, the CIA first said they never commented on employment questions, but later relented said yes, a "George Bush" was mentioned in the note, but that it was "another" George Bush, not the man who took office in the White House in 1988.
Some intrepid reporters tracked down the "other" George Bush and discovered that he was just a lowly clerk who had shuffled papers for the CIA for about six months. He never received any interagency messages from anybody at the FBI, let alone the Queen Mary.
It is also worth noting that a CIA code word for Bay of Pigs was Operation Zapata, and that two of the support vessels were named Barbara and Houston.
Many say that George Bush was high up on the CIA ladder at the time, running proprietorial vehicles and placed in a position of command, responsible for many of the Cubans recruited into "service" at the time. All through the Iran-Contra affair, Felix Rodriguez, the man who captured and had Che Guevara killed for the CIA, always seemed to call Bush's office first.
From The Realist (Summer, 1991):
"Bush was working with the now-famous CIA agent, Felix Rodriguez, recruiting right-wing Cuban exiles for the invasion of Cuba. It was Bush's CIA job to organize the Cuban community in Miami for the invasion.... A newly discovered FBI document reveals that George Bush was directly involved in the 1963 murder of President John Kennedy. The document places marksmen by the CIA. Bush at that time lived in Texas. Hopping from Houston to Miami weekly, Bush spent 1960 and '61 recruiting Cubans in Miami for the invasion....
"George Bush claims he never worked for the CIA until he was appointed Director by former Warren Commission director and then president Jerry Ford in 1976. Logic suggests that is highly unlikely. Of course, Bush has a company duty to deny being in the CIA. The CIA is a secret organization. No one ever admits to being a member. The truth is that Bush has been a top CIA official since before the 1961 invasion of Cuba, working with Felix Rodriguez. Bush may deny his actual role in the CIA in 1959, but there are records in the Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba that expose Bush's role..."
On the Watergate tapes, June 23, 1972, referred to in the media as the 'smoking gun' conversation, Nixon and his Chief of Staff, H.R. Haldeman, were discussing how to stop the FBI investigation into the CIA Watergate burglary. They were worried that the investigation would expose their connection to 'the Bay of Pigs thing.' Haldeman, in his book "The Ends of Power", reveals that Nixon always used code words when talking about the 1963 murder of JFK. Haldeman said Nixon would always refer to the assassination as 'the Bay of Pigs'.
On that transcript we find Nixon discussing the role of George Bush's partner, Robert Mosbacher, as one of the Texas fundraisers for Nixon. On the tapes Nixon keeps referring to the 'Cubans' and the 'Texans.' The 'Texans' were Bush, Mosbacher and Baker. This is another direct link between Bush and evidence linking Nixon and Bush to the Kennedy assassination."
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com...fk_assassination.htm
I'm fairly certain it wasn't Al Qaeda who killed him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...2Qkuc_f8&feature=fvw
He was about to free the slaves as well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...2Qkuc_f8&feature=fvw
He was about to free the slaves as well.
I am amazed at what comes out of a confused and psychotic mind!
The 'magic bullet' has been documented to be nothing but an extraordinary shot. I wondered how long it would be before this little 'theory' was brought up again.
However, blaming Bush Sr. for this is REALLY stretching. But please, indulge your fantasies.
The 'magic bullet' has been documented to be nothing but an extraordinary shot. I wondered how long it would be before this little 'theory' was brought up again.
However, blaming Bush Sr. for this is REALLY stretching. But please, indulge your fantasies.
quote:Originally posted by barracus:
I am amazed at what comes out of a confused and psychotic mind!
The 'magic bullet' has been documented to be nothing but an extraordinary shot. I wondered how long it would be before this little 'theory' was brought up again.
However, blaming Bush Sr. for this is REALLY stretching. But please, indulge your fantasies.
911 has been pretty well documented as well. But I choose to believe my own God given "lying" eyes.
I choose freedom! What about you barracus?
Diddle have you seen this? This is the new film that surfaced of the JFK assasination. One shot? It sure doesn't look like one shot to me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...Pz2A&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...ttTo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...2Qkuc_f8&feature=fvw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...Pz2A&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...ttTo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...2Qkuc_f8&feature=fvw
quote:Originally posted by barracus:
I am amazed at what comes out of a confused and psychotic mind!
The 'magic bullet' has been documented to be nothing but an extraordinary shot. I wondered how long it would be before this little 'theory' was brought up again.
However, blaming Bush Sr. for this is REALLY stretching. But please, indulge your fantasies.
There was more than one shot. You would have to be an idiot to beleive there wasn't. Watch the video I posted above and tell me you don't see two shots.
If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck don't call it one shot. NOTHING HAS BEEN PROVED.
One look at the Zapruder film and simple common sense should tell you all you need to know.
TB, didlle and other truthers.
There was a documentary about this on either A&E or History. They took the exact dimensions of the touring car (configuaration different from regular), put balistic gel bodies in the right places, measured the angle and direction of the shot, and pulled it off down to breaking the wrist of Governor Connally's double.
One shot. No magic. Just physics. No conspiracy.
There was a documentary about this on either A&E or History. They took the exact dimensions of the touring car (configuaration different from regular), put balistic gel bodies in the right places, measured the angle and direction of the shot, and pulled it off down to breaking the wrist of Governor Connally's double.
quote:According to the Warren Commission[9] and the House Select Committee on Assassinations,[10] as President Kennedy waved to the crowds on his right with his right arm upraised on the side of the limo, a shot entered his upper back, penetrated his neck, and exited his throat. He raised his clenched fists up to his neck and leaned forward and to his left, as Mrs. Kennedy put her arms around him in concern. Governor Connally also reacted, as the same bullet penetrated his back, chest, right wrist, and left thigh.
One shot. No magic. Just physics. No conspiracy.
quote:Originally posted by barracus:
TB, didlle and other truthers.
There was a documentary about this on either A&E or History. They took the exact dimensions of the touring car (configuaration different from regular), put balistic gel bodies in the right places, measured the angle and direction of the shot, and pulled it off down to breaking the wrist of Governor Connally's double.quote:According to the Warren Commission[9] and the House Select Committee on Assassinations,[10] as President Kennedy waved to the crowds on his right with his right arm upraised on the side of the limo, a shot entered his upper back, penetrated his neck, and exited his throat. He raised his clenched fists up to his neck and leaned forward and to his left, as Mrs. Kennedy put her arms around him in concern. Governor Connally also reacted, as the same bullet penetrated his back, chest, right wrist, and left thigh.
One shot. No magic. Just physics. No conspiracy.
Wow! A documentary on A&E and the History Channel! Well I guess that settles that! You are gonna feel confused and betrayed in just a few short years barracus. Again, good luck!
Try not to be so dumb just because the US media tells you to be!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...nXyQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...nXyQ&feature=related
quote:Originally posted by barracus:
TB, didlle and other truthers.
There was a documentary about this on either A&E or History. They took the exact dimensions of the touring car (configuaration different from regular), put balistic gel bodies in the right places, measured the angle and direction of the shot, and pulled it off down to breaking the wrist of Governor Connally's double.quote:According to the Warren Commission[9] and the House Select Committee on Assassinations,[10] as President Kennedy waved to the crowds on his right with his right arm upraised on the side of the limo, a shot entered his upper back, penetrated his neck, and exited his throat. He raised his clenched fists up to his neck and leaned forward and to his left, as Mrs. Kennedy put her arms around him in concern. Governor Connally also reacted, as the same bullet penetrated his back, chest, right wrist, and left thigh.
One shot. No magic. Just physics. No conspiracy.
No documentry is based on THIS FILM, it was supposedly damaged when confiscated but the owner retained an original copy. Did you watch the film? I've seen the History Channel documentry, it doesn't explain what I see hear. Just curious, what do you see?
I saw the reenactment. It was an Australian group.
They used the same type of weapon and ammo. It worked.
PS, Kennedy was also shot by the third one in the head which blew half of it off, the second shot hit the curb.
Again, no magic involved.
They used the same type of weapon and ammo. It worked.
PS, Kennedy was also shot by the third one in the head which blew half of it off, the second shot hit the curb.
Again, no magic involved.
Did you even listen to his speech barracus? Do you still not know why he was killed?
"On June 4, 1963, a virtually unknown Presidential decree, Executive Order 11110, was signed with the authority to basically strip the Federal Reserve Bank of its power to loan money to the United States Federal Government at interest. With the stroke of a pen, President Kennedy declared that the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank would soon be out of business. President Kennedy's Executive Order 11110 gave the Treasury Department the explicit authority.
But again, there is now new world order. Right?
"On June 4, 1963, a virtually unknown Presidential decree, Executive Order 11110, was signed with the authority to basically strip the Federal Reserve Bank of its power to loan money to the United States Federal Government at interest. With the stroke of a pen, President Kennedy declared that the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank would soon be out of business. President Kennedy's Executive Order 11110 gave the Treasury Department the explicit authority.
But again, there is now new world order. Right?
That is your interpretation of what was in a speech that has no link to when and where it was given.
He was killed because LHO was a nut case and looking for his 15 minutes of fame.
But please continue in your own little world.
He was killed because LHO was a nut case and looking for his 15 minutes of fame.
But please continue in your own little world.
Read Executive order 11110
Executive Order 11110 was issued by U.S. President John F. Kennedy on June 4, 1963.
This executive order delegates to the Secretary of the Treasury the president's authority to issue silver certificates under the Thomas Amendment of the Agricultural Adjustment Act.
[edit] Purpose
The order was for the Treasury to issue silver certificates against all silver held by the government which did not already have certificates against it. The order was needed due to the passage of Public Law 88-36 which repealed the Silver Purchase Act and other related monetary measures. One result was that after the repeals, only the President could issue new silver certificates.[citation needed]
The Federal Reserve System could replace the certificates, but only in larger denominations. The thrust of the order returned the authority to issue new silver certificates (and specify denominations) back to the U.S. Treasury.
This executive order allowed for the Federal Reserve System to distribute and exchange currency at lower denominations that met the growing economic need. The authoritative basis for the Order was substantially nullified on September 13, 1982 with the passage of Public Law 97-258. [1]
The order was never directly reversed, but on September 9, 1987, Executive Order 12608 revoked the section that Executive Order 11110 had added to Executive Order 10289,[2] essentially nullifying the order.
Executive Order 11110 was issued by U.S. President John F. Kennedy on June 4, 1963.
This executive order delegates to the Secretary of the Treasury the president's authority to issue silver certificates under the Thomas Amendment of the Agricultural Adjustment Act.
[edit] Purpose
The order was for the Treasury to issue silver certificates against all silver held by the government which did not already have certificates against it. The order was needed due to the passage of Public Law 88-36 which repealed the Silver Purchase Act and other related monetary measures. One result was that after the repeals, only the President could issue new silver certificates.[citation needed]
The Federal Reserve System could replace the certificates, but only in larger denominations. The thrust of the order returned the authority to issue new silver certificates (and specify denominations) back to the U.S. Treasury.
This executive order allowed for the Federal Reserve System to distribute and exchange currency at lower denominations that met the growing economic need. The authoritative basis for the Order was substantially nullified on September 13, 1982 with the passage of Public Law 97-258. [1]
The order was never directly reversed, but on September 9, 1987, Executive Order 12608 revoked the section that Executive Order 11110 had added to Executive Order 10289,[2] essentially nullifying the order.
quote:Originally posted by barracus:
I saw the reenactment. It was an Australian group.
They used the same type of weapon and ammo. It worked.
PS, Kennedy was also shot by the third one in the head which blew half of it off, the second shot hit the curb.
Again, no magic involved.
Barracus, Did you watch the video I posted? My son just watched it without sound and could pin point as he was shot twice. My son knows nothing about the controversy or how many times they 'officially' say he was shot, he is only 13 years old. Have you watched this video?
A doctored video is hardly proof of anything. I said Kennedy was shot twice. By two different bullets. All from LHO.
quote:I made up the sound track to illustrate my theory that the third shot was the one that missed JFK. Look to the top right of the video above and click on (more info) for more info.
quote:Originally posted by barracus:
That is your interpretation of what was in a speech that has no link to when and where it was given.
He was killed because LHO was a nut case and looking for his 15 minutes of fame.
But please continue in your own little world.
If LHO was looking for his 15 minutes, then why would he deny it? Didn't think about that one did you Sherlock? Until you are brave enough to take the "red pill", it would be in your best interest to remain silent. Because it's obvious that you are still asleep and dreaming!
You are the one in your own little world.
On June 4, 1963, a little known attempt was made to strip the Federal Reserve Bank of its power to loan money to the government at interest. On that day President John F. Kennedy signed Executive Order No. 11110 that returned to the U.S. government the power to issue currency, without going through the Federal Reserve. Mr. Kennedy's order gave the Treasury the power "to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury." This meant that for every ounce of silver in the U.S. Treasury's vault, the government could introduce new money into circulation. In all, Kennedy brought nearly $4.3 billion in U.S. notes into circulation. The ramifications of this bill are enormous.
With the stroke of a pen, Mr. Kennedy was on his way to putting the Federal Reserve Bank of New York out of business. If enough of these silver certificats were to come into circulation they would have eliminated the demand for Federal Reserve notes. This is because the silver certificates are backed by silver and the Federal Reserve notes are not backed by anything. Executive Order 11110 could have prevented the national debt from reaching its current level, because it would have given the gevernment the ability to repay its debt without going to the Federal Reserve and being charged interest in order to create the new money. Executive Order 11110 gave the U.S. the ability to create its own money backed by silver.
After Mr. Kennedy was assassinated just five months later, no more silver certificates were issued. The Final Call has learned that the Executive Order was never repealed by any U.S. President through an Executive Order and is still valid. Why then has no president utilized it? Virtually all of the nearly $6 trillion in debt has been created since 1963, and if a U.S. president had utilized Executive Order 11110 the debt would be nowhere near the current level. Perhaps the assassination of JFK was a warning to future presidents who would think to eliminate the U.S. debt by eliminating the Federal Reserve's control over the creation of money. Mr. Kennedy challenged the government of money by challenging the two most successful vehicles that have ever been used to drive up debt - war and the creation of money by a privately-owned central bank. His efforts to have all troops out of Vietnam by 1965 and Executive Order 11110 would have severely cut into the profits and control of the New York banking establishment. As America's debt reaches unbearable levels and a conflict emerges in Bosnia that will further increase America's debt, one is force to ask, will President Clinton have the courage to consider utilizing Executive Order 11110 and, ifso, is he willing to pay the ultimate price for doing so?
Executive Order 11110 AMENDMENT OF EXECUTIVE ORDER NO. 10289
AS AMENDED, RELATING TO THE PERFORMANCE OF CERTAIN FUNCTIONS AFFECTING THE DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY
By virtue of the authority vested in me by section 301 of title 3 of the United States Code, it is ordered as follows:
Section 1. Executive Order No. 10289 of September 19, 1951, as amended, is hereby further amended-
By adding at the end of paragraph 1 thereof the following subparagraph (j):
(j) The authority vested in the President by paragraph (b) of section 43 of the Act of May 12,1933, as amended (31 U.S.C.821(b)), to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury not then held for redemption of any outstanding silver certificates, to prescribe the denomination of such silver certificates, and to coin standard silver dollars and subsidiary silver currency for their redemption
and --
Byrevoking subparagraphs (b) and (c) of paragraph 2 thereof.
Sec. 2. The amendments made by this Order shall not affect any act done, or any right accruing or accrued or any suit or proceeding had or commenced in any civil or criminal cause prior to the date of this Order but all such liabilities shall continue and may be enforced as if said amendments had not been made.
John F. Kennedy The White House, June 4, 1963.
Of course, the fact that both JFK and Lincoln met the the same end is a mere coincidence.
Abraham Lincoln's Monetary Policy, 1865 (Page 91 of Senate document 23.)
Money is the creature of law and the creation of the original issue of money should be maintained as the exclusive monopoly of national Government.
Money possesses no value to the State other than that given to it by circulation.
Capital has its proper place and is entitled to every protection. The wages of men should be recognised in the structure of and in the social order as more important than the wages of money.
No duty is more imperative for the Government than the duty it owes the People to furnish them with a sound and uniform currency, and of regulating the circulation of the medium of exchange so that labour will be protected from a vicious currency, and commerce will be facilitated by cheap and safe exchanges.
The available supply of Gold and Silver being wholly inadequate to permit the issuance of coins of intrinsic value or paper currency convertible into coin in the volume required to serve the needs of the People, some other basis for the issue of currency must be developed, and some means other than that of convertibility into coin must be developed to prevent undue fluctuation in the value of paper currency or any other substitute for money of intrinsic value that may come into use.
The monetary needs of increasing numbers of People advancing towards higher standards of living can and should be met by the Government. Such needs can be served by the issue of National Currency and Credit through the operation of a National Banking system .The circulation of a medium of exchange issued and backed by the Government can be properly regulated and redundancy of issue avoided by withdrawing from circulation such amounts as may be necessary by Taxation, Redeposit, and otherwise. Government has the power to regulate the currency and creditof the Nation.
Government should stand behind its currency and credit and the Bank deposits of the Nation. No individual should suffer a loss of money through depreciation or inflated currency or Bank bankruptcy.
Government possessing the power to create and issue currency and creditas money and enjoying the right to withdraw both currency and credit from circulation by Taxation and otherwise need not and should not borrow capital at interest as a means of financing Governmental work and public enterprise. The Government should create, issue, and circulate all the currency and credit needed to satisfy the spending power of the Government and the buying power of the consumers. The privilege of creating and issueing money is not only the supreme prerogative of Government, but it is the Governments greatest creative opportunity.
By the adoption of these principles the long felt want for a uniform medium will be satisfied. The taxpayers will be saved immense sums of interest, discounts, and exchanges. The financing of all public enterprise, the maintenance of stable Government and ordered progress, and the conduct of the Treasury will become matters of practical administration. The people can and will be furnished with a currency as safe as their own Government. Money will cease to be master and become the servant of humanity. Democracy will rise superior to the money power.
Some information on the Federal Reserve The Federal Reserve, a Private Corporation One of the most common concerns among people who engage in any effort to reduce their taxes is, "Will keeping my money hurt the government's ability to pay it's bills?" As explained in the first article in this series, the modern withholding tax does not, and wasn't designed to, pay for government services. What it does do, is pay for the privately-owned Federal Reserve System.
Black's Law Dictionary defines the "Federal Reserve System" as, "Network of twelve central banks to which most national banks belong and to which state chartered banks may belong. Membership rules require investment of stock and minimum reserves."
Privately-owned banks own the stock of the Fed. This was explained in more detail in the case of Lewis v. United States, Federal Reporter, 2nd Series, Vol. 680, Pages 1239, 1241 (1982), where the court said:
Each Federal Reserve Bank is a separate corporation owned by commercial banks in its region. The stock-holding commercial banks elect two thirds of each Bank's nine member board of directors.
Similarly, the Federal Reserve Banks, though heavily regulated, are locally controlled by their member banks. Taking another look at Black's Law Dictionary, we find that these privately owned banks actually issue money:
Federal Reserve Act. Law which created Federal Reserve banks which act as agents in maintaining money reserves, issuing money in the form of bank notes, lending money to banks, and supervising banks. Administered by Federal Reserve Board (q.v.).
The FED banks, which are privately owned, actually issue, that is, create, the money we use. In 1964 the House Committee on Banking and Currency, Subcommittee on Domestic Finance, at the second session of the 88th Congress, put out a study entitled Money Facts which contains a good description of what the FED is:
The Federal Reserve is a total money-making machine.It can issue money or checks. And it never has a problem of making its checks good because it can obtain the $5 and $10 bills necessary to cover its check simply by asking the Treasury Department's Bureau of Engraving to print them.
As we all know, anyone who has a lot of money has a lot of power. Now imagine a group of people who have the power to create money. Imagine the power these people would have. This is what the Fed is.
No man did more to expose the power of the Fed than Louis T. McFadden, who was the Chairman of the House Banking Committee back in the 1930s. Constantly pointing out that monetary issues shouldn't be partisan, he criticized both the Herbert Hoover and Franklin Roosevelt administrations. In describing the Fed, he remarked in the Congressional Record, House pages 1295 and 1296 on June 10, 1932, that:
Mr. Chairman,we have in this country one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal reserve banks. The Federal Reserve Board, a Government Board, has cheated the Government of the United States and he people of the United States out of enoughmoney to pay the national debt. The depredations and the iniquities of the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal reserve banks acting together have cost this country enough money to pay the national debt several times over. This evil institution has impoverished and ruined the people of the UnitedStates; has bankrupted itself, and has practically bankrupted our Government. It has done this through the maladministration of that law by which the Federal Reserve Board, and through the corrupt practices of the moneyed vultures who control it.
Some people think the Federal reserve banks are United States Government institutions. They are not Government institutions. They are private credit monopolies which prey upon the people of the United States for the benefit of themselves and their foreign customers; foreign and domestic speculators and swindlers; and rich and predatory money lenders. In that dark crew of financial pirates there are those who would cut a man's throat to get a dollar out of his pocket; there are those who send money into States to buy votes to control our legislation; and there are those who maintain an international propaganda for the purpose of deceiving us and of wheedling us into the granting of new concessions which will permit them to cover up their past misdeeds and set again in motion their gigantic train of crime. Those 12 private credit monopolies were deceitfully and disloyally foisted upon this country by bankers who camehere from Europe and who repaid us for our hospitality by undermining our American institutions.
The Fed basically works like this: The government granted its power to create money to the Fed banks. They create money, then loan it back to the government charging interest. The government levies income taxes to pay the interest on the debt. On this point, it's interesting to note that the Federal Reserve act and the sixteenth amendment, which gave congress the power to collect income taxes, were both passed in 1913. The incredible power of the Fed over the economy is universally admitted. Some people, especially in the banking and academic communities, even support it. On the other hand, there are those, both in the past and in the present, that speak out against it. One of these men was President John F. Kennedy. His efforts were detailed in Jim Marrs' 1990 book, Crossfire:
Another overlooked aspect of Kennedy's attempt to reform American society involves money. Kennedy apparently reasoned that by returning to the constitution, which states that only Congress shall coin and regulate money, the soaring national debt could be reduced by not paying interest to the bankers of the Federal Reserve System, who print paper money then loan it to the government at interest. He moved in this area on June 4, 1963, by signing Executive Order 11,110 which called for the issuance of $4,292,893,815 in United States Notes through the U.S. Treasury rather than the traditional Federal Reserve System. That same day, Kennedy signed a bill changing the backing of one and two dollar bills from silver to gold, adding strength to the weakened U.S. currency.
Kennedy's comptroller of the currency, James J. Saxon, had been at odds with the powerful Federal Reserve Board for some time, encouraging broader investment and lending powers for banks that were not part of the Federal Reserve system. Saxon also had decided that non-Reserve banks could underwrite state and local general obligation bonds, again weakening the dominant Federal Reserve banks.
A number of "Kennedy bills" were indeed issued - the author has a five dollar bill in his possession with the heading "United States Note" - but were quickly withdrawn after Kennedy's death. According to information from the Library of the Comptroller of the Currency, Executive Order 11,110 remains in effect today, although successive administrations beginning with that of President Lyndon Johnson apparently have simply ignored it and instead returned to the practice of paying interest on Federal Reserve notes. Today we continue to use Federal Reserve Notes, and the deficit is at an all-time high.
With the stroke of a pen, Mr. Kennedy was on his way to putting the Federal Reserve Bank of New York out of business. If enough of these silver certificats were to come into circulation they would have eliminated the demand for Federal Reserve notes. This is because the silver certificates are backed by silver and the Federal Reserve notes are not backed by anything. Executive Order 11110 could have prevented the national debt from reaching its current level, because it would have given the gevernment the ability to repay its debt without going to the Federal Reserve and being charged interest in order to create the new money. Executive Order 11110 gave the U.S. the ability to create its own money backed by silver.
After Mr. Kennedy was assassinated just five months later, no more silver certificates were issued. The Final Call has learned that the Executive Order was never repealed by any U.S. President through an Executive Order and is still valid. Why then has no president utilized it? Virtually all of the nearly $6 trillion in debt has been created since 1963, and if a U.S. president had utilized Executive Order 11110 the debt would be nowhere near the current level. Perhaps the assassination of JFK was a warning to future presidents who would think to eliminate the U.S. debt by eliminating the Federal Reserve's control over the creation of money. Mr. Kennedy challenged the government of money by challenging the two most successful vehicles that have ever been used to drive up debt - war and the creation of money by a privately-owned central bank. His efforts to have all troops out of Vietnam by 1965 and Executive Order 11110 would have severely cut into the profits and control of the New York banking establishment. As America's debt reaches unbearable levels and a conflict emerges in Bosnia that will further increase America's debt, one is force to ask, will President Clinton have the courage to consider utilizing Executive Order 11110 and, ifso, is he willing to pay the ultimate price for doing so?
Executive Order 11110 AMENDMENT OF EXECUTIVE ORDER NO. 10289
AS AMENDED, RELATING TO THE PERFORMANCE OF CERTAIN FUNCTIONS AFFECTING THE DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY
By virtue of the authority vested in me by section 301 of title 3 of the United States Code, it is ordered as follows:
Section 1. Executive Order No. 10289 of September 19, 1951, as amended, is hereby further amended-
By adding at the end of paragraph 1 thereof the following subparagraph (j):
(j) The authority vested in the President by paragraph (b) of section 43 of the Act of May 12,1933, as amended (31 U.S.C.821(b)), to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury not then held for redemption of any outstanding silver certificates, to prescribe the denomination of such silver certificates, and to coin standard silver dollars and subsidiary silver currency for their redemption
and --
Byrevoking subparagraphs (b) and (c) of paragraph 2 thereof.
Sec. 2. The amendments made by this Order shall not affect any act done, or any right accruing or accrued or any suit or proceeding had or commenced in any civil or criminal cause prior to the date of this Order but all such liabilities shall continue and may be enforced as if said amendments had not been made.
John F. Kennedy The White House, June 4, 1963.
Of course, the fact that both JFK and Lincoln met the the same end is a mere coincidence.
Abraham Lincoln's Monetary Policy, 1865 (Page 91 of Senate document 23.)
Money is the creature of law and the creation of the original issue of money should be maintained as the exclusive monopoly of national Government.
Money possesses no value to the State other than that given to it by circulation.
Capital has its proper place and is entitled to every protection. The wages of men should be recognised in the structure of and in the social order as more important than the wages of money.
No duty is more imperative for the Government than the duty it owes the People to furnish them with a sound and uniform currency, and of regulating the circulation of the medium of exchange so that labour will be protected from a vicious currency, and commerce will be facilitated by cheap and safe exchanges.
The available supply of Gold and Silver being wholly inadequate to permit the issuance of coins of intrinsic value or paper currency convertible into coin in the volume required to serve the needs of the People, some other basis for the issue of currency must be developed, and some means other than that of convertibility into coin must be developed to prevent undue fluctuation in the value of paper currency or any other substitute for money of intrinsic value that may come into use.
The monetary needs of increasing numbers of People advancing towards higher standards of living can and should be met by the Government. Such needs can be served by the issue of National Currency and Credit through the operation of a National Banking system .The circulation of a medium of exchange issued and backed by the Government can be properly regulated and redundancy of issue avoided by withdrawing from circulation such amounts as may be necessary by Taxation, Redeposit, and otherwise. Government has the power to regulate the currency and creditof the Nation.
Government should stand behind its currency and credit and the Bank deposits of the Nation. No individual should suffer a loss of money through depreciation or inflated currency or Bank bankruptcy.
Government possessing the power to create and issue currency and creditas money and enjoying the right to withdraw both currency and credit from circulation by Taxation and otherwise need not and should not borrow capital at interest as a means of financing Governmental work and public enterprise. The Government should create, issue, and circulate all the currency and credit needed to satisfy the spending power of the Government and the buying power of the consumers. The privilege of creating and issueing money is not only the supreme prerogative of Government, but it is the Governments greatest creative opportunity.
By the adoption of these principles the long felt want for a uniform medium will be satisfied. The taxpayers will be saved immense sums of interest, discounts, and exchanges. The financing of all public enterprise, the maintenance of stable Government and ordered progress, and the conduct of the Treasury will become matters of practical administration. The people can and will be furnished with a currency as safe as their own Government. Money will cease to be master and become the servant of humanity. Democracy will rise superior to the money power.
Some information on the Federal Reserve The Federal Reserve, a Private Corporation One of the most common concerns among people who engage in any effort to reduce their taxes is, "Will keeping my money hurt the government's ability to pay it's bills?" As explained in the first article in this series, the modern withholding tax does not, and wasn't designed to, pay for government services. What it does do, is pay for the privately-owned Federal Reserve System.
Black's Law Dictionary defines the "Federal Reserve System" as, "Network of twelve central banks to which most national banks belong and to which state chartered banks may belong. Membership rules require investment of stock and minimum reserves."
Privately-owned banks own the stock of the Fed. This was explained in more detail in the case of Lewis v. United States, Federal Reporter, 2nd Series, Vol. 680, Pages 1239, 1241 (1982), where the court said:
Each Federal Reserve Bank is a separate corporation owned by commercial banks in its region. The stock-holding commercial banks elect two thirds of each Bank's nine member board of directors.
Similarly, the Federal Reserve Banks, though heavily regulated, are locally controlled by their member banks. Taking another look at Black's Law Dictionary, we find that these privately owned banks actually issue money:
Federal Reserve Act. Law which created Federal Reserve banks which act as agents in maintaining money reserves, issuing money in the form of bank notes, lending money to banks, and supervising banks. Administered by Federal Reserve Board (q.v.).
The FED banks, which are privately owned, actually issue, that is, create, the money we use. In 1964 the House Committee on Banking and Currency, Subcommittee on Domestic Finance, at the second session of the 88th Congress, put out a study entitled Money Facts which contains a good description of what the FED is:
The Federal Reserve is a total money-making machine.It can issue money or checks. And it never has a problem of making its checks good because it can obtain the $5 and $10 bills necessary to cover its check simply by asking the Treasury Department's Bureau of Engraving to print them.
As we all know, anyone who has a lot of money has a lot of power. Now imagine a group of people who have the power to create money. Imagine the power these people would have. This is what the Fed is.
No man did more to expose the power of the Fed than Louis T. McFadden, who was the Chairman of the House Banking Committee back in the 1930s. Constantly pointing out that monetary issues shouldn't be partisan, he criticized both the Herbert Hoover and Franklin Roosevelt administrations. In describing the Fed, he remarked in the Congressional Record, House pages 1295 and 1296 on June 10, 1932, that:
Mr. Chairman,we have in this country one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal reserve banks. The Federal Reserve Board, a Government Board, has cheated the Government of the United States and he people of the United States out of enoughmoney to pay the national debt. The depredations and the iniquities of the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal reserve banks acting together have cost this country enough money to pay the national debt several times over. This evil institution has impoverished and ruined the people of the UnitedStates; has bankrupted itself, and has practically bankrupted our Government. It has done this through the maladministration of that law by which the Federal Reserve Board, and through the corrupt practices of the moneyed vultures who control it.
Some people think the Federal reserve banks are United States Government institutions. They are not Government institutions. They are private credit monopolies which prey upon the people of the United States for the benefit of themselves and their foreign customers; foreign and domestic speculators and swindlers; and rich and predatory money lenders. In that dark crew of financial pirates there are those who would cut a man's throat to get a dollar out of his pocket; there are those who send money into States to buy votes to control our legislation; and there are those who maintain an international propaganda for the purpose of deceiving us and of wheedling us into the granting of new concessions which will permit them to cover up their past misdeeds and set again in motion their gigantic train of crime. Those 12 private credit monopolies were deceitfully and disloyally foisted upon this country by bankers who camehere from Europe and who repaid us for our hospitality by undermining our American institutions.
The Fed basically works like this: The government granted its power to create money to the Fed banks. They create money, then loan it back to the government charging interest. The government levies income taxes to pay the interest on the debt. On this point, it's interesting to note that the Federal Reserve act and the sixteenth amendment, which gave congress the power to collect income taxes, were both passed in 1913. The incredible power of the Fed over the economy is universally admitted. Some people, especially in the banking and academic communities, even support it. On the other hand, there are those, both in the past and in the present, that speak out against it. One of these men was President John F. Kennedy. His efforts were detailed in Jim Marrs' 1990 book, Crossfire:
Another overlooked aspect of Kennedy's attempt to reform American society involves money. Kennedy apparently reasoned that by returning to the constitution, which states that only Congress shall coin and regulate money, the soaring national debt could be reduced by not paying interest to the bankers of the Federal Reserve System, who print paper money then loan it to the government at interest. He moved in this area on June 4, 1963, by signing Executive Order 11,110 which called for the issuance of $4,292,893,815 in United States Notes through the U.S. Treasury rather than the traditional Federal Reserve System. That same day, Kennedy signed a bill changing the backing of one and two dollar bills from silver to gold, adding strength to the weakened U.S. currency.
Kennedy's comptroller of the currency, James J. Saxon, had been at odds with the powerful Federal Reserve Board for some time, encouraging broader investment and lending powers for banks that were not part of the Federal Reserve system. Saxon also had decided that non-Reserve banks could underwrite state and local general obligation bonds, again weakening the dominant Federal Reserve banks.
A number of "Kennedy bills" were indeed issued - the author has a five dollar bill in his possession with the heading "United States Note" - but were quickly withdrawn after Kennedy's death. According to information from the Library of the Comptroller of the Currency, Executive Order 11,110 remains in effect today, although successive administrations beginning with that of President Lyndon Johnson apparently have simply ignored it and instead returned to the practice of paying interest on Federal Reserve notes. Today we continue to use Federal Reserve Notes, and the deficit is at an all-time high.
Bravely shouting? No thanks.
I don't need to shout. This is all bogus.
Before long, you'll be telling me that Bush 1 and 2 were responsible for the fall of Satan from Heaven.
I don't need to shout. This is all bogus.
Before long, you'll be telling me that Bush 1 and 2 were responsible for the fall of Satan from Heaven.
quote:Originally posted by barracus:
A doctored video is hardly proof of anything. I said Kennedy was shot twice. By two different bullets. All from LHO.quote:I made up the sound track to illustrate my theory that the third shot was the one that missed JFK. Look to the top right of the video above and click on (more info) for more info.
Exactly how do you think this was doctored? It is identical to the damaged copy frame by frame?
I wish I wouldn't have thrown Bush into this so soon. But I doesn't matter how hard you try to avoid it, eventually a BUSH will come up.
quote:Originally posted by diddle:quote:Originally posted by barracus:
That is your interpretation of what was in a speech that has no link to when and where it was given.
He was killed because LHO was a nut case and looking for his 15 minutes of fame.
But please continue in your own little world.
If LHO was looking for his 15 minutes, then why would he deny it? Didn't think about that one did you Sherlock? Until you are brave enough to take the "red pill", it would be in your best interest to remain silent. Because it's obvious that you are still asleep and dreaming!
You are the one in your own little world.
He did not think he would be caught. It was to impress his wife or girlfriend, I forget which. I'm not going to look it up either.
The sound was doctored, as he admitted. I have watched the videos many times before. It always ends the same way.
The official story says ONE bullet. That is what the documentry say too. Why do you say two shots to Kennedy. Hey I don't deny it could have been two shots from LHO, I'm just saying it WAS MORE THAN ONE SHOT.
quote:Originally posted by barracus:
The sound was doctored, as he admitted. I have watched the videos many times before. It always ends the same way.
Yes, he did. But there are NUMEROUS copies of both the undamaged and the damaged video all over the net. Turn off the sound, you can still see Kennedy shot twice.
TB,
It has always been two shots hit him. The first went through the throat and entered Connaly's body and the second blew his head open.
The one bullet theory referred only to the shot that struck both men. I never saw anyone deny two shots.
It has always been two shots hit him. The first went through the throat and entered Connaly's body and the second blew his head open.
The one bullet theory referred only to the shot that struck both men. I never saw anyone deny two shots.
If barracus prefers to remain a slave in the matrix, then maybe we should just leave him or her alone. The dream is nice. After all.
But if barracus insists on coming in to a political forum to argue about nonsense, then he's just opening himself to ridicule. Why don't you spend more time in the sports or entertainment forums? I give up on trying to open your eyes. Until you refuse to open them and see things for what they are and not for what you've been told, then anything you might say will have to be taken with a block of salt!
But if barracus insists on coming in to a political forum to argue about nonsense, then he's just opening himself to ridicule. Why don't you spend more time in the sports or entertainment forums? I give up on trying to open your eyes. Until you refuse to open them and see things for what they are and not for what you've been told, then anything you might say will have to be taken with a block of salt!
The commission also concluded that:
* one shot likely missed the motorcade (it could not determine which of the three),
* the first shot to hit anyone struck Kennedy in the upper back, exited near the front of his neck and likely continued on to cause all of Governor Connally's injuries, and
* the last shot to hit anyone struck Kennedy in the head, fatally wounding him.
It noted that three empty shells were found in the sixth floor in the book depository, and a rifle identified as the one used in the shooting – Oswald's Italian military surplus 6.5x52 mm Model 91/38 Carcano – was found hidden nearby
The autopsy of President Kennedy performed the night of November 22 at the Bethesda Naval Hospital led the three examining pathologists to conclude that the bullet wound to the head was fatal, and the bullet had entered slightly above and 2.5 cm to the right of the external occipital protuberance, exiting through the right side of the skull above the ear and "carrying with it portions of cerebrum, skull and scalp."[64]
The report addressed a second missile which "entered Kennedy's upper back above the shoulder blade, passed through the strap muscles at the base of his neck, bruising the upper tip of the right lung without puncturing it, then exiting the front (anterior) neck," in a wound that was destroyed by the tracheotomy incision.
* one shot likely missed the motorcade (it could not determine which of the three),
* the first shot to hit anyone struck Kennedy in the upper back, exited near the front of his neck and likely continued on to cause all of Governor Connally's injuries, and
* the last shot to hit anyone struck Kennedy in the head, fatally wounding him.
It noted that three empty shells were found in the sixth floor in the book depository, and a rifle identified as the one used in the shooting – Oswald's Italian military surplus 6.5x52 mm Model 91/38 Carcano – was found hidden nearby
The autopsy of President Kennedy performed the night of November 22 at the Bethesda Naval Hospital led the three examining pathologists to conclude that the bullet wound to the head was fatal, and the bullet had entered slightly above and 2.5 cm to the right of the external occipital protuberance, exiting through the right side of the skull above the ear and "carrying with it portions of cerebrum, skull and scalp."[64]
The report addressed a second missile which "entered Kennedy's upper back above the shoulder blade, passed through the strap muscles at the base of his neck, bruising the upper tip of the right lung without puncturing it, then exiting the front (anterior) neck," in a wound that was destroyed by the tracheotomy incision.
quote:Originally posted by diddle:
If barracus prefers to remain a slave in the matrix, then maybe we should just leave him or her alone. The dream is nice. After all.
But if barracus insists on coming in to a political forum to argue about nonsense, then he's just opening himself to ridicule. Why don't you spend more time in the sports or entertainment forums? I give up on trying to open your eyes. Until you refuse to open them and see things for what they are and not for what you've been told, then anything you might say will have to be taken with a block of salt!
Argue about nonsense is right. That's all you've got. And the case is almost 50 years old. I can argue politics with you all day, but you have come to a gun fight with a tulip.
quote:Originally posted by barracus:quote:Originally posted by diddle:
If barracus prefers to remain a slave in the matrix, then maybe we should just leave him or her alone. The dream is nice. After all.
But if barracus insists on coming in to a political forum to argue about nonsense, then he's just opening himself to ridicule. Why don't you spend more time in the sports or entertainment forums? I give up on trying to open your eyes. Until you refuse to open them and see things for what they are and not for what you've been told, then anything you might say will have to be taken with a block of salt!
Argue about nonsense is right. That's all you've got. And the case is almost 50 years old. I can argue politics with you all day, but you have come to a gun fight with a tulip.
And you didn't even come to the fight. Let me know when you're brave enough to face reality!
As soon, as I see information, like this, I know the rest is crap:
“Hoover also investigated Prescott Bush for treason (documented in the library of Congress) and siezed (sic) a bank he owned for laundering money for Hitlers 2nd in command.”
The bank in question is Union Banking. There were 4,000 outstanding shares for the bank. E. Roland Harriman, the bank chairman and brother of former New York Gov. W. Averell Harriman, held 3,991 shares. Bush had one share. One share does not an owner make. As the Harrimans were mainly Democrats, perhaps there is the connection, if any.
Hitler’s number two man was Hermann Goering, President of the Reichstag and marshal of the Luftwaffe. There is no information that Union Banking did any business with him. Perhaps, Fritz Thyssen is the person referred to. As Thyssen spent 1938 to 1945 in concentration camps for his opposition to Hitler’s attacks on the jews, he hardly qualifies as a Nazi operative.
The Anti-Defamation League made this statement:
“Rumors about the alleged Nazi "ties" of the late Prescott Bush, the grandfather of President George W. Bush, have circulated widely through the Internet in recent years. These charges are untenable and politically motivated.
Despite some early financial dealings between Prescott Bush and a Nazi industrialist named Fritz Thyssen (who was arrested by the Nazi regime in 1938 and imprisoned during the war), Prescott Bush was neither a Nazi nor a Nazi sympathizer.”
http://www.adl.org/Internet_Rumors/prescott.htm
That’s the Anti-Defamation League – liberal and Jewish. They say Prescott wasn’t a Nazi sympathizer. Are you really claiming knowledge beyond theirs!
This is the quality of your posts – bits and pieces of internet lies and hoaxes. Please research beyond the conspiracy sites. I've posted most of this information several times before, with reputable links like the ADL's. Yet, you and others of the left still repeat the calumny and rumor. TB, if you persist with such unqualified statements, it will be obvious to all that you are unreliable and not believable.
“Hoover also investigated Prescott Bush for treason (documented in the library of Congress) and siezed (sic) a bank he owned for laundering money for Hitlers 2nd in command.”
The bank in question is Union Banking. There were 4,000 outstanding shares for the bank. E. Roland Harriman, the bank chairman and brother of former New York Gov. W. Averell Harriman, held 3,991 shares. Bush had one share. One share does not an owner make. As the Harrimans were mainly Democrats, perhaps there is the connection, if any.
Hitler’s number two man was Hermann Goering, President of the Reichstag and marshal of the Luftwaffe. There is no information that Union Banking did any business with him. Perhaps, Fritz Thyssen is the person referred to. As Thyssen spent 1938 to 1945 in concentration camps for his opposition to Hitler’s attacks on the jews, he hardly qualifies as a Nazi operative.
The Anti-Defamation League made this statement:
“Rumors about the alleged Nazi "ties" of the late Prescott Bush, the grandfather of President George W. Bush, have circulated widely through the Internet in recent years. These charges are untenable and politically motivated.
Despite some early financial dealings between Prescott Bush and a Nazi industrialist named Fritz Thyssen (who was arrested by the Nazi regime in 1938 and imprisoned during the war), Prescott Bush was neither a Nazi nor a Nazi sympathizer.”
http://www.adl.org/Internet_Rumors/prescott.htm
That’s the Anti-Defamation League – liberal and Jewish. They say Prescott wasn’t a Nazi sympathizer. Are you really claiming knowledge beyond theirs!
This is the quality of your posts – bits and pieces of internet lies and hoaxes. Please research beyond the conspiracy sites. I've posted most of this information several times before, with reputable links like the ADL's. Yet, you and others of the left still repeat the calumny and rumor. TB, if you persist with such unqualified statements, it will be obvious to all that you are unreliable and not believable.
quote:Originally posted by diddle:quote:Originally posted by barracus:quote:Originally posted by diddle:
If barracus prefers to remain a slave in the matrix, then maybe we should just leave him or her alone. The dream is nice. After all.
But if barracus insists on coming in to a political forum to argue about nonsense, then he's just opening himself to ridicule. Why don't you spend more time in the sports or entertainment forums? I give up on trying to open your eyes. Until you refuse to open them and see things for what they are and not for what you've been told, then anything you might say will have to be taken with a block of salt!
Argue about nonsense is right. That's all you've got. And the case is almost 50 years old. I can argue politics with you all day, but you have come to a gun fight with a tulip.
And you didn't even come to the fight. Let me know when you're brave enough to face reality!
You have no clue what reality is.. Perhaps you should go read that Christian History book. You need it.
quote:Originally posted by barracus:
TB,
It has always been two shots hit him. The first went through the throat and entered Connaly's body and the second blew his head open.
The one bullet theory referred only to the shot that struck both men. I never saw anyone deny two shots.
I know that, but you can clearly see that the first shot hits him through the front side of the neck, not through the rear. Kennedy is thrown backwards. Connaly tries to turn to see what has happened and he is struck and thrown backwards to the side. Then Kennedy is struck in the head You can see the two shots hit Kennedy. And a seperate shot hit Connaly between the 2 that hit Kennedy. Kennedy was shot in 226 and Connaly in 233 final shot at 316.
barracus,
I fear they are beyond hope. See my post above. I've alerted them to this bad data several times, yet they continue.
They're the ones plugged into the matrix.
I fear they are beyond hope. See my post above. I've alerted them to this bad data several times, yet they continue.
They're the ones plugged into the matrix.
And those that refuse to see what is plainly see able, are either cowards or enemies of the state. The curtain is coming down. It's already down enough for most of us to see now. And day by day our numbers grow! Deal with it!