So far I've seen that no power has changed since at least 1963. All just a puppet show.
quote:Originally posted by diddle:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...anUM&feature=related
Lest we forget what was intended by all of this...and btw, excellant thread diddle. Thank you
diddle,
O.K. I watched the Zapruder film. The best I can tell, the shot that caused the spray was not the first shot that hit JFK. He slumped forward just before this and Jackie can be seen looking concerned for her husband. The shot that did all the damage, according to the high-velocity spray, came from behind. In the slow-mo you can see the spray definitely going forward. When JFK's head moves after this, you can see a large amount of what appears to be open scalp towards the front of his head, not the back. Therefore, in my opinion, JFK was shot from behind at least twice and NEVER from any other direction. For those out there who don't see the spray moving in a forward motion, you need to learn your front from your REAR. Also, it doesn't seem to me that Jackie was reaching for anything. It looked like she was trying to get out of the car and the guy behind the car made her get back in her seat. That's my interpretation. Thank you and have a great night!
O.K. I watched the Zapruder film. The best I can tell, the shot that caused the spray was not the first shot that hit JFK. He slumped forward just before this and Jackie can be seen looking concerned for her husband. The shot that did all the damage, according to the high-velocity spray, came from behind. In the slow-mo you can see the spray definitely going forward. When JFK's head moves after this, you can see a large amount of what appears to be open scalp towards the front of his head, not the back. Therefore, in my opinion, JFK was shot from behind at least twice and NEVER from any other direction. For those out there who don't see the spray moving in a forward motion, you need to learn your front from your REAR. Also, it doesn't seem to me that Jackie was reaching for anything. It looked like she was trying to get out of the car and the guy behind the car made her get back in her seat. That's my interpretation. Thank you and have a great night!
The devil is so clever that he's able to hide it in plain sight. Pride seems to be one of his favorite sins! 
quote:Originally posted by diddle:
The devil is so clever that he's able to hide it in plain sight. Pride seems to be one of his favorite sins!
I hope you weren't speaking of my pride. I watched the video with a completely open mind, hoping to clear up any doubt I may have had. I came to the same conclusion every time I watched the video. I even watched it one more time to make sure I hadn't missed anything. At frame 313, his head snaps forward and then back. I've watched that portion of the ad nauseum and reach the same conclusion: forward first, then back. No other conclusion can be drawn, based on this video.
quote:Originally posted by Tomme73:quote:Originally posted by diddle:
The devil is so clever that he's able to hide it in plain sight. Pride seems to be one of his favorite sins!
I hope you weren't speaking of my pride. I watched the video with a completely open mind, hoping to clear up any doubt I may have had. I came to the same conclusion every time I watched the video. I even watched it one more time to make sure I hadn't missed anything. At frame 313, his head snaps forward and then back. I've watched that portion of the ad nauseum and reach the same conclusion: forward first, then back. No other conclusion can be drawn, based on this video.
No Tomme. I wasn't talking about your pride. I was talking about collective pride. I don't see what you're seeing. I clearly see his head being violently thrown back. Along with the spray. Of course you're free to believe what you want. But with all the overwhelming evidence, I just have to go with it. You have to admit. Ever since then, things took a different course. And they haven't changed!
And a good day to you sir!
quote:Originally posted by diddle:
The devil is so clever that he's able to hide it in plain sight. Pride seems to be one of his favorite sins!
Seems that you're well acquainted with pride...
quote:Originally posted by marksw59:quote:Originally posted by diddle:
The devil is so clever that he's able to hide it in plain sight. Pride seems to be one of his favorite sins!
Seems that you're well acquainted with pride...
Yeah, and you're one to talk!
I've never claimed to be without sin.
Thanks for the clarification, diddle. Just for grins and giggles, watch the video just once more. I agree that his head does go back, but only after going forward at the moment of impact. The moment of impact is most crucial here. When his head goes back, the best I can liken this to is recoil from almost anything that is connected to something else after being struck. Think of one of those inflatable punching bags. Now, in your mind, punch it. What happens? It goes forward initially and then back. Plus, what I believe to be the first shot occurred around frame 235. Kennedy can be seen reacting to something causing him discomfort in his chest, followed by Jackie apparently checking on him, frame 260. By frame 270, he's slumping forward. This is followed by no less than a 2nd shot around frame 313. His head initially snaps forward, followed by the recoil, making the gaping hole visible on the right front side of his head, like the bullet just shaved off that portion of his head. As you can tell, I've analyzed the video even more as I wrote this.
quote:Originally posted by paradox_carnival:
It's time to truly wake up, if you haven't already.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8LzLRU35CY
Seriously? Seriously?!? You realize that Bush.2's statements were pieced together??? As for the picture of the dollar bill, the founding fathers put "Novus Ordo Seclorum" on there to represent the U.S. breaking from the old order of the British government. Geez, Louise!!!
quote:Originally posted by Tomme73:
Thanks for the clarification, diddle. Just for grins and giggles, watch the video just once more. I agree that his head does go back, but only after going forward at the moment of impact. The moment of impact is most crucial here. When his head goes back, the best I can liken this to is recoil from almost anything that is connected to something else after being struck. Think of one of those inflatable punching bags. Now, in your mind, punch it. What happens? It goes forward initially and then back. Plus, what I believe to be the first shot occurred around frame 235. Kennedy can be seen reacting to something causing him discomfort in his chest, followed by Jackie apparently checking on him, frame 260. By frame 270, he's slumping forward. This is followed by no less than a 2nd shot around frame 313. His head initially snaps forward, followed by the recoil, making the gaping hole visible on the right front side of his head, like the bullet just shaved off that portion of his head. As you can tell, I've analyzed the video even more as I wrote this.
Ok. It was never my intention to get into the details of the assassination with this thread. But how do you explain every doctors testimony at Parkland saying that he had a gaping hole in the back of his head? And with a shot supposedly coming from up and behind, how can his face remain intact? Just way too much accounts that don't match up. But the fact remains. He was assassinated and the status quo remained.
I'm not going to attempt to explain what the doctors said, I'm only commenting on the video itself. A GAPING hole on the front right side of his head is visible on the video. Like Bob on the Krystal commercials several years ago, "I call 'em like I see 'em."
quote:Originally posted by paradox_carnival:quote:Originally posted by Tomme73:quote:Originally posted by paradox_carnival:
It's time to truly wake up, if you haven't already.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8LzLRU35CY
Seriously? Seriously?!? You realize that Bush.2's statements were pieced together??? As for the picture of the dollar bill, the founding fathers put "Novus Ordo Seclorum" on there to represent the U.S. breaking from the old order of the British government. Geez, Louise!!!
It's just a video Tomme. Did you happen to comprehend anything other than bush 2? Which yes, I know it was pieced, but the fact remains the same. As for the picture, it has nothing to do with what's written on there. I have no wish to spar with you on this. But just think about it.
Very well. Just think about it, aye. Noted.
Tomme, for your benefit and probably for the benefit of others, I removed my post even though it's still in the latter ones.
Why?
It seems the powers that be may find it too radical.
But as long as we're slaughtering thousands if innocent children and civilians in the interests of "our" national security, that's not radical. Not to mention it seems we haven't actually won a "war" in over 60 years now. But I can only assume that's the new goal now. Not to win them. Just keep them going. What a shame!
Putting in all together
35. JFK - D ASSASINATED
Official story as determined by the Warren Commission is that LHO acted alone in shooting Kennedy from the School Book Depository because he wanted to impress his wife Marina. The official story is that there were 3 shots fired from behind Kennedy. One shot missed, one shot when into the back of Kennedy, out his throat, through the sholder of Connely, then through his wrist and then into his knee. The third shot hit the back of Kennedys head. The evidence, including the Zapruder Film http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecZ4YOmPz2A&NR=1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-cri43ttTo
suggest otherwise as noted by the direction Kennedys body is thrown. All 14 doctors who worked on Kennedy in Dallas, an ambulance driver and an undertaker who all claim Kennedy had a huge hole in the back of his head and 1/4 - 1/5 of the brain was blown out. Indicating he was shot from the front. Evidence has also emerged that suggests LHO was a CIA operative working undercover on a plan to overthrow Castro. The Bay of Pigs Invasion (Operation Zapata), was an unsuccessful attempt by a CIA-trained force of Cuban exiles to invade southern Cuba with support from US government armed forces, to overthrow the Cuban government of Fidel Castro.
The plan was launched in April 1961, less than three months after John F. Kennedy assumed the presidency in the United States. The Cuban armed forces, trained and equipped by Eastern Bloc nations, defeated the exile combatants in three days. Bad Cuban-American relations were made worse by the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis. The idea for The Bay of Pigs operation was said to be thought up by Nixon. (MORE BELOW)
Operation Northwoods, was a false-flag plan, proposed within the United States government in 1962. The plan called for CIA or other operatives to commit apparent acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Castro-led Cuba. One plan was to "develop a Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington".
This operation is especially notable in that it included plans for hijackings and bombings followed by the use of phony evidence that would blame the terrorist acts on a foreign government, namely Cuba. (Sounds a bit familar)
The plan stated:
The desired resultant from the execution of this plan would be to place the United States in the apparent position of suffering defensible grievances from a rash and irresponsible government of Cuba and to develop an international image of a Cuban threat to peace in the Western Hemisphere.
Operation Northwoods was drafted by the Joint Chiefs of Staff and signed by then-Chairman Lyman Lemnitzer, and sent to the Secretary of Defense.
Several other proposals were listed, including the real or simulated actions against various U.S military and civilian targets. Operation Northwoods was part of the U.S. government's Cuban Project (Operation Mongoose) anti-Castro initiative. Kennedy was very opposed to this idea and thus shot it down. Rumor has it that Nothwoods was actually suggested by Bush Sr. who at the time happened to be a CIA agent (although he denies it - the evidence contradicts this.)
The Mafia was also interested in the liberation of Cuba because Cuban gambling/casinos they took loses on when Castro took control. Thus, a relationship between the Mafia and the CIA began working together towards a common goal, the liberation of Cuba
Evidence suggests that Bobby Kennedy may have began an campaign directly out of his office to quietly overthrow Cuba with the assistance of a very few elect individals. The CIA was not involved and this upset them.
JFK had also implemented executive order 11110 which would allow the US government to start printing money based on silver thus allowing us to do away with the Fed Res which was not ran by the government. (we all know this story now) Incidently, there were some 4 billion US BACKED notes printed, printing stopped the day after JFKs assasination. No President after JFK continued with this order and eventually it was essentially abolished by Reagan/Bush.
36. Lyndon Johnson - D
Former US House Rep, Johnson ran against Kennedy for the Democratic nomination. When JFK won he made Johnson his running mate., Kennedy and LBJ had a notoriously bad relationship. LBJ has been implicated in JFK assasination for his bitter resentment towards Kennedy. The night before JFKs assasination LBJ attended a party in Dallas hosted by Clint Murchinson, business tycoon with links to the Mafia. Others at the event included Hoover, Clyde Tolson, John J. McCloy, Jack Ruby, George Brown, Richard Nixon, high rolling oil tycoons, judges, mafia kingpins, several newspaper and TV reporters and Madeline Brown (LBJs mistress). Madeline Brown later recounted that that night LBJ stated that "those SOB Kennedys will never make a fool of him again. Thats not a threat, its a promise". LBJ organized and made appointments to the Warren commission to investigate JFK assasination. Among those appointed was R.Ford and John McCloy.
37. Nixon - R Implicated in JFK assasination, FBI files show that Jack Ruby (shot LHO) actually worked for Nixon while he was in congress. Prescott Bush takes credit for putting together the 1952 Eisenhower/Nixon ticket. Bobby Kennedy was assasinated while campaigning for the 1968 Democratic Nomination against Mondale. Nixon would win the 1968 election after Bobby was assassinated. As VP Nixon was given credit for planning Operation 40, the secret 1961 invasion of Cuba a private CIA/Corporate invasion which Kennedy was not aware of. Bush/Cable/Hunt and Nixon were were not going to inform Kennedy of the invasion and then at 4:00am, just 2 hrs before the invasion Gen Cable called Kennedy to ask him for permission to provide US air cover for the CIA invasion. Kennedy said no. They were furious but went ahead anyways. The mission failed. Most of the CIA leadership around Cuba seems to have come out of Texas. There is a whole Texan branch of the CIA based in the oil business. With Nixon we have Watergate. The same people involved in the Bay of Pigs were involved in Watergate. They were trying to stop the Democrats from publishing pictures of Hunt and Sturgis under arrest for the murders of JFK (SF Chronicle 5/7/77) On the Watergate tapes, 6/23/72, Nixon and his Chief of Staff, HR Haldeman, discussed how to stop the FBI from investigating the CIA Watergate burglary. They were worried how that investigation would expose their connection to “the Bay of Pigs thing”. Haldeman later admitted that Nixon used that phrase as code for the Kennedy assassination..
38. Ford - R Implicated in JFK assasination cover up as part of the Warren Commission which LBJ asked him to be part of. (1 term) Ford also made Bush, Sr. the Head of the CIA He was also a very strong fundraiser for Nixon. It was Nixon who convinced LBJ to put Ford on the Warren Commission and it was Ford who picked and choosed what evidence and testimony would be included. Nixon also recommended Justice Warren.
39. Carter - D No apparent involvment (1 term)
40. Reagan - R No apparent involvment. However, Regan ran against Bush Sr. When Reagan won he made Bush Sr his VP. There was an attempted assasination against Reagan by Hinckley. The official story was that Hinckley was trying to impress Jodie Foster who he was infatuated with (sounds familiar). IRONICALLY, It seems that the Bush family and the Hinckley family were very well aquainted and had made large contributions to the Bush campaign. http://www.voxfux.com/features...bush_connection.html During the Reagan Admin we have the Iran- Contra scandal. Felix Rodriquez was the first CIA agent who received the first phone call teling the world the CIA plane flown by Gene Hasenfus had crashed in Nicaragua. (Remember Rodriguez from the Bay of Pigs AND Watergate.) . As soon as Rodriguez heard of the plane crash, he called his long-time CIA supv., George Bush, Sr. Bush denied being in the contra loop but investigators recently obtained copies of Oliver Norths diary, which documents Bushs’ role as CIA supervisor of the contra supply network. Norths’ diary shows Bush was in attendance at the first meeting in 8/6/85. Both North and Rodriquez have kept records that date Bushs’ involvement with the CIA all the way back to the 1961 invasion of Cuba. (Washington Post, 7/10/90) In 59 Rodriquez was top cop in the Cuban Govt under Batista. When Batista was overthrown and fled to Miami, Rodriguez went with him, along with Frank Sturgis and Rafael Quintero. Rodriguez didn’t join the CIA until 61 for the invasion of Cuba when he was recruited by Bush.
41. Bush Sr. - R Implicated in JFK assasination in a number of ways as an agent for the CIA where he recruited Cubans from Florida to participate in the Bay of Pigs. Recent FBI documents place him working with now famous CIA agent Felix Rodriquez recruiting right-wing Cuban exiles for the invasion of Cuba in 1960-1961. Bush also owned an off shore oil company called Zapata. Ironically, the code name for Bay of Pigs was Zapata. Bush was also named as the head of the CIA by Ford. Operation Northwoods was said to be Bush Sr. brainstorm. A memo from J Edgar Hoover, head of FBI, was uncovered stating that, “Mr George Bush of the CIA had been briefed on Nov 23,1963 about the reaction of anti-Castro Cuban exiles in Miami to the reaction of JFKs assassination. (The Nation, 8/13/88)
42. Bill Clinton - D No apparent involvement. GOP orchistrated attempt to Impeach Clinton on the basis of an affair with Monica Lewinsky. Ironically, Clinton was also the President choosen by Russia, France and Mexico to turn over intelligence information records on the JFK assasination.
VP - Al Gore.
43. Bush Jr.- R Election came down to one state. Florida where Jed Bush just happened to be the Govenor. Election fraud was also suspected during Bushs’ re-election. During GW Bushs administration we had 911 - the invasion of Afghanistan and the invasion of Iraq, both unsucessful and at least one undoubtably unjustified. One country was rich in oil the other on necessary for a natural gas/oil line which is documented in Unocal/Congressional hearings. (Remember Operation Northwoods?) How Ironic. Let us not forget the banking bust and taxpayer extortion of the Bush administration. How different that would have played out if Kennedys Executive order 11110 would have been continued and the Fed Reserve would have been shut down.
35. JFK - D ASSASINATED
Official story as determined by the Warren Commission is that LHO acted alone in shooting Kennedy from the School Book Depository because he wanted to impress his wife Marina. The official story is that there were 3 shots fired from behind Kennedy. One shot missed, one shot when into the back of Kennedy, out his throat, through the sholder of Connely, then through his wrist and then into his knee. The third shot hit the back of Kennedys head. The evidence, including the Zapruder Film http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecZ4YOmPz2A&NR=1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-cri43ttTo
suggest otherwise as noted by the direction Kennedys body is thrown. All 14 doctors who worked on Kennedy in Dallas, an ambulance driver and an undertaker who all claim Kennedy had a huge hole in the back of his head and 1/4 - 1/5 of the brain was blown out. Indicating he was shot from the front. Evidence has also emerged that suggests LHO was a CIA operative working undercover on a plan to overthrow Castro. The Bay of Pigs Invasion (Operation Zapata), was an unsuccessful attempt by a CIA-trained force of Cuban exiles to invade southern Cuba with support from US government armed forces, to overthrow the Cuban government of Fidel Castro.
The plan was launched in April 1961, less than three months after John F. Kennedy assumed the presidency in the United States. The Cuban armed forces, trained and equipped by Eastern Bloc nations, defeated the exile combatants in three days. Bad Cuban-American relations were made worse by the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis. The idea for The Bay of Pigs operation was said to be thought up by Nixon. (MORE BELOW)
Operation Northwoods, was a false-flag plan, proposed within the United States government in 1962. The plan called for CIA or other operatives to commit apparent acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Castro-led Cuba. One plan was to "develop a Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington".
This operation is especially notable in that it included plans for hijackings and bombings followed by the use of phony evidence that would blame the terrorist acts on a foreign government, namely Cuba. (Sounds a bit familar)
The plan stated:
The desired resultant from the execution of this plan would be to place the United States in the apparent position of suffering defensible grievances from a rash and irresponsible government of Cuba and to develop an international image of a Cuban threat to peace in the Western Hemisphere.
Operation Northwoods was drafted by the Joint Chiefs of Staff and signed by then-Chairman Lyman Lemnitzer, and sent to the Secretary of Defense.
Several other proposals were listed, including the real or simulated actions against various U.S military and civilian targets. Operation Northwoods was part of the U.S. government's Cuban Project (Operation Mongoose) anti-Castro initiative. Kennedy was very opposed to this idea and thus shot it down. Rumor has it that Nothwoods was actually suggested by Bush Sr. who at the time happened to be a CIA agent (although he denies it - the evidence contradicts this.)
The Mafia was also interested in the liberation of Cuba because Cuban gambling/casinos they took loses on when Castro took control. Thus, a relationship between the Mafia and the CIA began working together towards a common goal, the liberation of Cuba
Evidence suggests that Bobby Kennedy may have began an campaign directly out of his office to quietly overthrow Cuba with the assistance of a very few elect individals. The CIA was not involved and this upset them.
JFK had also implemented executive order 11110 which would allow the US government to start printing money based on silver thus allowing us to do away with the Fed Res which was not ran by the government. (we all know this story now) Incidently, there were some 4 billion US BACKED notes printed, printing stopped the day after JFKs assasination. No President after JFK continued with this order and eventually it was essentially abolished by Reagan/Bush.
36. Lyndon Johnson - D
Former US House Rep, Johnson ran against Kennedy for the Democratic nomination. When JFK won he made Johnson his running mate., Kennedy and LBJ had a notoriously bad relationship. LBJ has been implicated in JFK assasination for his bitter resentment towards Kennedy. The night before JFKs assasination LBJ attended a party in Dallas hosted by Clint Murchinson, business tycoon with links to the Mafia. Others at the event included Hoover, Clyde Tolson, John J. McCloy, Jack Ruby, George Brown, Richard Nixon, high rolling oil tycoons, judges, mafia kingpins, several newspaper and TV reporters and Madeline Brown (LBJs mistress). Madeline Brown later recounted that that night LBJ stated that "those SOB Kennedys will never make a fool of him again. Thats not a threat, its a promise". LBJ organized and made appointments to the Warren commission to investigate JFK assasination. Among those appointed was R.Ford and John McCloy.
37. Nixon - R Implicated in JFK assasination, FBI files show that Jack Ruby (shot LHO) actually worked for Nixon while he was in congress. Prescott Bush takes credit for putting together the 1952 Eisenhower/Nixon ticket. Bobby Kennedy was assasinated while campaigning for the 1968 Democratic Nomination against Mondale. Nixon would win the 1968 election after Bobby was assassinated. As VP Nixon was given credit for planning Operation 40, the secret 1961 invasion of Cuba a private CIA/Corporate invasion which Kennedy was not aware of. Bush/Cable/Hunt and Nixon were were not going to inform Kennedy of the invasion and then at 4:00am, just 2 hrs before the invasion Gen Cable called Kennedy to ask him for permission to provide US air cover for the CIA invasion. Kennedy said no. They were furious but went ahead anyways. The mission failed. Most of the CIA leadership around Cuba seems to have come out of Texas. There is a whole Texan branch of the CIA based in the oil business. With Nixon we have Watergate. The same people involved in the Bay of Pigs were involved in Watergate. They were trying to stop the Democrats from publishing pictures of Hunt and Sturgis under arrest for the murders of JFK (SF Chronicle 5/7/77) On the Watergate tapes, 6/23/72, Nixon and his Chief of Staff, HR Haldeman, discussed how to stop the FBI from investigating the CIA Watergate burglary. They were worried how that investigation would expose their connection to “the Bay of Pigs thing”. Haldeman later admitted that Nixon used that phrase as code for the Kennedy assassination..
38. Ford - R Implicated in JFK assasination cover up as part of the Warren Commission which LBJ asked him to be part of. (1 term) Ford also made Bush, Sr. the Head of the CIA He was also a very strong fundraiser for Nixon. It was Nixon who convinced LBJ to put Ford on the Warren Commission and it was Ford who picked and choosed what evidence and testimony would be included. Nixon also recommended Justice Warren.
39. Carter - D No apparent involvment (1 term)
40. Reagan - R No apparent involvment. However, Regan ran against Bush Sr. When Reagan won he made Bush Sr his VP. There was an attempted assasination against Reagan by Hinckley. The official story was that Hinckley was trying to impress Jodie Foster who he was infatuated with (sounds familiar). IRONICALLY, It seems that the Bush family and the Hinckley family were very well aquainted and had made large contributions to the Bush campaign. http://www.voxfux.com/features...bush_connection.html During the Reagan Admin we have the Iran- Contra scandal. Felix Rodriquez was the first CIA agent who received the first phone call teling the world the CIA plane flown by Gene Hasenfus had crashed in Nicaragua. (Remember Rodriguez from the Bay of Pigs AND Watergate.) . As soon as Rodriguez heard of the plane crash, he called his long-time CIA supv., George Bush, Sr. Bush denied being in the contra loop but investigators recently obtained copies of Oliver Norths diary, which documents Bushs’ role as CIA supervisor of the contra supply network. Norths’ diary shows Bush was in attendance at the first meeting in 8/6/85. Both North and Rodriquez have kept records that date Bushs’ involvement with the CIA all the way back to the 1961 invasion of Cuba. (Washington Post, 7/10/90) In 59 Rodriquez was top cop in the Cuban Govt under Batista. When Batista was overthrown and fled to Miami, Rodriguez went with him, along with Frank Sturgis and Rafael Quintero. Rodriguez didn’t join the CIA until 61 for the invasion of Cuba when he was recruited by Bush.
41. Bush Sr. - R Implicated in JFK assasination in a number of ways as an agent for the CIA where he recruited Cubans from Florida to participate in the Bay of Pigs. Recent FBI documents place him working with now famous CIA agent Felix Rodriquez recruiting right-wing Cuban exiles for the invasion of Cuba in 1960-1961. Bush also owned an off shore oil company called Zapata. Ironically, the code name for Bay of Pigs was Zapata. Bush was also named as the head of the CIA by Ford. Operation Northwoods was said to be Bush Sr. brainstorm. A memo from J Edgar Hoover, head of FBI, was uncovered stating that, “Mr George Bush of the CIA had been briefed on Nov 23,1963 about the reaction of anti-Castro Cuban exiles in Miami to the reaction of JFKs assassination. (The Nation, 8/13/88)
42. Bill Clinton - D No apparent involvement. GOP orchistrated attempt to Impeach Clinton on the basis of an affair with Monica Lewinsky. Ironically, Clinton was also the President choosen by Russia, France and Mexico to turn over intelligence information records on the JFK assasination.
VP - Al Gore.
43. Bush Jr.- R Election came down to one state. Florida where Jed Bush just happened to be the Govenor. Election fraud was also suspected during Bushs’ re-election. During GW Bushs administration we had 911 - the invasion of Afghanistan and the invasion of Iraq, both unsucessful and at least one undoubtably unjustified. One country was rich in oil the other on necessary for a natural gas/oil line which is documented in Unocal/Congressional hearings. (Remember Operation Northwoods?) How Ironic. Let us not forget the banking bust and taxpayer extortion of the Bush administration. How different that would have played out if Kennedys Executive order 11110 would have been continued and the Fed Reserve would have been shut down.
quote:Originally posted by diddle:
But as long as we're slaughtering thousands if innocent children and civilians in the interests of "our" national security, that's not radical. Not to mention it seems we haven't actually won a "war" in over 60 years now. But I can only assume that's the new goal now. Not to win them. Just keep them going. What a shame!
I'll put it this way, it probably won't be long until there's not only a word filter in forums, but video's as well. WWII was the last, and there was also a reason for it. The goal is for larger pockets. It's no longer give and ye shall recieve, it's take because we're entitled, we deserve it, no matter who suffers. It's truly a shame.
quote:Originally posted by Tomme73:
I'm not going to attempt to explain what the doctors said, I'm only commenting on the video itself. A GAPING hole on the front right side of his head is visible on the video. Like Bob on the Krystal commercials several years ago, "I call 'em like I see 'em."
Tomme: The "official story" says that there was NO GAPING HOLE IN HIS HEAD. NO skull bone was missing. They had x-rays of an intact skull. According to them he was shot in the head, his head was not blown away. We can clearly see that it was. Honey, perhaps he goes little forward after the first shot which was far less tramatic and possibly did come from the rear. That shot "officially" went through his back about 5" below the neck, out through the middle of his throat, through Connalys sholder, then his wrist and then his knee (the so called magic bullet). But when the other bullet hits his head he is thrown violently backwards and to the left upon impact. He doesn't fly forward at all.
Newton's Second Law of Motion
The acceleration produced by a particular force acting on a body is directly proportional to the magnitude of the force and inversely proportional to the mass of the body.
- Newton's Second Law of Motion, translated from the Principia's Latin
There wouldn't be a 'little' movement forward, it would be proportial to the magnitude of the force and inversely proportional to the mass of the body.
Newton's First Law of Motion
Every body continues in its state of rest, or of uniform motion in a straight line, unless it is compelled to change that state by forces impressed upon it. An object that is not moving will not move until a force acts upon it. An object that is in motion will not change velocity until a force acts upon it.
- Newton's First Law of Motion, translated from the Principia's Latin
IE: He would be violently threw backwards unless something caused him to be violently threw.
Definition: Force is a quantitative description of the interaction between two physical bodies, such as an object and its environment. Force is proportional to acceleration. In calculus terms, force is the derivative of momentum with respect to time
from the Warren report, Dr.carrico
The first physician to see the President at Parkland Hospital was Dr. Charles J. Carrico, a resident in general surgery.192 Dr. Carrico was in the emergency area, examining another patient, when he was notified that President Kennedy was en route to the hospital. 193 Approximately 2 minutes later, Dr. Carrico saw the President on his back, being wheeled into the emergency area.194 He noted that the President was blue-white or ashen in color; had slow, spasmodic, agonal respiration without any coordination; made no voluntary movements; had his eyes open with the pupils dilated without any reaction to light; evidenced no palpable pulse; and had a few chest sounds which were thought to be heart beats.195 On the basis of these findings, Dr. Carrico concluded that President Kennedy was still alive.196
Dr. Carrico noted two wounds: a small bullet wound in the front lower neck, and an extensive wound in the President's head where a sizable portion of the skull was missing.197 He observed shredded brain tissue and "considerable slow oozing" from the latter wound, followed by "more profuse bleeding" after some circulation was established.198
The first physician to see the President at Parkland Hospital was Dr. Charles J. Carrico, a resident in general surgery.192 Dr. Carrico was in the emergency area, examining another patient, when he was notified that President Kennedy was en route to the hospital. 193 Approximately 2 minutes later, Dr. Carrico saw the President on his back, being wheeled into the emergency area.194 He noted that the President was blue-white or ashen in color; had slow, spasmodic, agonal respiration without any coordination; made no voluntary movements; had his eyes open with the pupils dilated without any reaction to light; evidenced no palpable pulse; and had a few chest sounds which were thought to be heart beats.195 On the basis of these findings, Dr. Carrico concluded that President Kennedy was still alive.196
Dr. Carrico noted two wounds: a small bullet wound in the front lower neck, and an extensive wound in the President's head where a sizable portion of the skull was missing.197 He observed shredded brain tissue and "considerable slow oozing" from the latter wound, followed by "more profuse bleeding" after some circulation was established.198
quote:Originally posted by paradox_carnival:quote:Originally posted by diddle:
But as long as we're slaughtering thousands if innocent children and civilians in the interests of "our" national security, that's not radical. Not to mention it seems we haven't actually won a "war" in over 60 years now. But I can only assume that's the new goal now. Not to win them. Just keep them going. What a shame!
I'll put it this way, it probably won't be long until there's not only a word filter in forums, but video's as well. WWII was the last, and there was also a reason for it. The goal is for larger pockets. It's no longer give and ye shall recieve, it's take because we're entitled, we deserve it, no matter who suffers. It's truly a shame.
Here's what Bush's buddy Henry Kissinger had to say about the military...
"Military men are just dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns" -- Henry Kissinger
Yet they still wont see.
This is why they hate us. Nobody does terror quite like we do!
Warning! The video link is extremely graphic and disturbing!
http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=8071
Obama needs to pull us out of both countries. NOW!
Warning! The video link is extremely graphic and disturbing!
http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=8071
Obama needs to pull us out of both countries. NOW!
quote:Originally posted by diddle:
This is why they hate us. Nobody does terror quite like we do!
Warning! The video link is extremely graphic and disturbing!
http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=8071
Obama needs to pull us out of both countries. NOW!
And they want to tell us we're there for a reason. This video says it all. D a m n!
quote:Originally posted by diddle:
This is why they hate us. Nobody does terror quite like we do!
Warning! The video link is extremely graphic and disturbing!
http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=8071
Obama needs to pull us out of both countries. NOW!
NOW!
This is what happens soldier, far from home, fighting a war they know is BS, bored and resentfull and wishing they were home.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...ext_from=PL&index=22
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...ext_from=PL&index=42
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TovdEh7sicg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaSMGAP8he4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...ext_from=PL&index=22
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...ext_from=PL&index=42
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TovdEh7sicg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaSMGAP8he4
Unproven quote from a book.
If you are going to quote someone, at least make sure its right.
Military men are just dumb stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy.
* Henry Kissinger, as quoted in Kiss the Boys Goodbye: How the United States Betrayed Its Own POW’s in Vietnam (1990) by Monika Jensen-Stevenson and William Stevenson, unidentified chapter/page
If you are going to quote someone, at least make sure its right.
Military men are just dumb stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy.
* Henry Kissinger, as quoted in Kiss the Boys Goodbye: How the United States Betrayed Its Own POW’s in Vietnam (1990) by Monika Jensen-Stevenson and William Stevenson, unidentified chapter/page
Oh well, you are all back to the New World Order. Never mind.
quote:Originally posted by barracus:
Oh well, you are all back to the New World Order. Never mind.
Barracus: WAKE UP! Don't you see whats happening, whats happened?
quote:Originally posted by barracus:
Oh well, you are all back to the New World Order. Never mind.
I am not on the New Order. Never really have been. Do you realize the only Republican President who has not been involved with this since Kennedys assassination was Reagan. But Reagan was almost assissinated by Hinckley. And Hinckleys and the Bushs' were very good friends. The donated a lot of money to the Bush campaign. Did you read my post on this? Doesn't that bother you a little bit?
quote:Originally posted by True-Blue:quote:Originally posted by barracus:
Oh well, you are all back to the New World Order. Never mind.
I am not on the New Order. Never really have been. Do you realize the only Republican President who has not been involved with this since Kennedys assassination was Reagan. But Reagan was almost assissinated by Hinckley. And Hinckleys and the Bushs' were very good friends. The donated a lot of money to the Bush campaign. Did you read my post on this? Doesn't that bother you a little bit?
Nothing bothers LMM. When they come for her there will be nobody left to speak for her.
TB,
Given that all those 'facts' are put together by people who want to get a certain outcome, I am very skeptical of a leading to b + c.
You are taking facts from blogs, anti government sites, hate sites etc. I could make a case for George Washington being a terrorist and a military traitor if I wanted too.
Does people dying in a war bother me, Yes!
Do I want war, No!
Do I believe in the ubber rich society manipulating the governments of the world for global control, No!
Does the government ever tell us the real truth, probably not.
Do I believe that 5 or 6 presidents orchestrated the killing of JFK? No.
Most of what you have is conjecture, theories, stories, half truths and faked data.
It reads like a bad scifi movie to me. No, it does not bother me.
As I said, I don't believe in conspiracy theories.
Given that all those 'facts' are put together by people who want to get a certain outcome, I am very skeptical of a leading to b + c.
You are taking facts from blogs, anti government sites, hate sites etc. I could make a case for George Washington being a terrorist and a military traitor if I wanted too.
Does people dying in a war bother me, Yes!
Do I want war, No!
Do I believe in the ubber rich society manipulating the governments of the world for global control, No!
Does the government ever tell us the real truth, probably not.
Do I believe that 5 or 6 presidents orchestrated the killing of JFK? No.
Most of what you have is conjecture, theories, stories, half truths and faked data.
It reads like a bad scifi movie to me. No, it does not bother me.
As I said, I don't believe in conspiracy theories.
And apparently, Tomme saw the same things I did.
How strange!
How strange!
quote:Originally posted by barracus:
TB,
Given that all those 'facts' are put together by people who want to get a certain outcome, I am very skeptical of a leading to b + c.
You are taking facts from blogs, anti government sites, hate sites etc. I could make a case for George Washington being a terrorist and a military traitor if I wanted too.
Does people dying in a war bother me, Yes!
Do I want war, No!
Do I believe in the ubber rich society manipulating the governments of the world for global control, No!
Does the government ever tell us the real truth, probably not.
Do I believe that 5 or 6 presidents orchestrated the killing of JFK? No.
Most of what you have is conjecture, theories, stories, half truths and faked data.
It reads like a bad scifi movie to me. No, it does not bother me.
As I said, I don't believe in conspiracy theories.
Like I said! LOL But if you don't believe the government tells you the truth, what makes you think you know anything?
quote:And for the record, I'm done with this topic. Enjoy the conspiracies.
Barracus? What happened? ^^ Just couldn't stand it could you?
quote:Originally posted by barracus:
And apparently, Tomme saw the same things I did.
How strange!
Look at this and tell me what you see!
http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=8071
quote:Originally posted by paradox_carnival:quote:And for the record, I'm done with this topic. Enjoy the conspiracies.
Barracus? What happened? ^^ Just couldn't stand it could you?
How do you think she came to her conclusions? By continuously banging her head into walls!
quote:Originally posted by barracus:
TB,
Given that all those 'facts' are put together by people who want to get a certain outcome, I am very skeptical of a leading to b + c.
You are taking facts from blogs, anti government sites, hate sites etc. I could make a case for George Washington being a terrorist and a military traitor if I wanted too.
Does people dying in a war bother me, Yes!
Do I want war, No!
Do I believe in the ubber rich society manipulating the governments of the world for global control, No!
Does the government ever tell us the real truth, probably not.
Do I believe that 5 or 6 presidents orchestrated the killing of JFK? No.
Most of what you have is conjecture, theories, stories, half truths and faked data.
It reads like a bad scifi movie to me. No, it does not bother me.
As I said, I don't believe in conspiracy theories.
BARRACUS: Nobody put that together for me. I pieced it together and verified everything with at least 2 sources. Most everything I got was from Freedom of Info Releases and credible News Paper articles. The cast of charactors are common at all points. I promise you, I couldn't beleive it either. But they are all connect. Rodriguez is a common thread from A-Z. You can check any detail.