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My brother,
You have attacked my beliefs quite fieresly in here and I am ok with that. With each post you put in here quoting "Mormon Doctrine" you seem to get more and more frustrated. You see, the things you quote answer questions you have had about your own religion and they cannot answer them. Our Church answers questions like, Before we came to this earth, where did we live. and What is the true purpose of life, and What happens to us after death. There are many more questions answered by our church that others call "MYSTERIES".
I think that when you poat these things, it is your way of asking me if I believe them and are they true.

NO Beternu, I DO NOT BELIEVE THEM AT ALL!

That sentance may come as a shock to you but I will explain it to you.

Believing something, is hope ing it is true but you realy dont know for sure.

When you have a SURE KNOWLEDGE that something IS true, you no longer need to believe it!

Ya see Bet, with all your colege knowledge all you do is BELIEVE your religious teachings, you have no SURE KNOWLEDGE of their truthfulness as rattified by the power of the HOLY GHOST. I believe this bothers you deeply and keeps you from having internal peace and the peace of Jesus Christ.

So when you ask if I believe Mormon Doctrine , I say to you, I DO NOT HAVE TO BELIEVE SOMETHING I HAVE A SHURE KNOWLEDGE OF ITS TRUTHFULNESS. AND I KNOW "MORMON DOCTRINE' IS TRUE, ITS JUST TOO DEEP FOR YOUR EARTHLY UNDERSTANDING TO COMPREHEND.

So now you neednt waste anymore of your time posting things about our doctrine and asking if I believe it.

Im here for you when you need me, Dwight
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Originally posted by renecillo7:
Windsong: Let me help you out! Whatever that was that you got, it was a bad batch! Just get a new batch and you will be fine!

Hi Renecillo7,

I thought you were going to say, "Let me help you out. Which way did you come in?"

Oh, well, I guess I can't get them all right. But, I do like my version a wee bit better.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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Originally posted by WINDSONG:
I say to you, I DO NOT HAVE TO BELIEVE SOMETHING I HAVE A SHURE (SIC) KNOWLEDGE OF ITS TRUTHFULNESS. AND I KNOW "MORMON DOCTRINE' IS TRUE, ITS JUST TOO DEEP FOR YOUR EARTHLY UNDERSTANDING TO COMPREHEND.

Hi Dwight/Skippy,

So, you have already been promoted to a god and have heavenly understanding? Wow! What did it feel like to move from being just an ordinary man -- to being a man/god?

Dwight/Skippy, you are so mired in the CULT of Mormonism -- that you have lost all reason. My Friend, get out while you still have time (even if you are a Mormon god) -- and find a relationship with the real Jesus Christ, He of John 1:1 -- the preexisting deity, God the Son.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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Originally posted by WINDSONG:
Our Church answers questions like, Before we came to this earth, where did we live. and What is the true purpose of life, and What happens to us after death.
Dwight


I don't know why you care who thinks what as long you're happy with your religion but I'll bite.

The question sounds real dumb but where did we live before we came to this earth?
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Originally posted by semiannualchick:
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Originally posted by WINDSONG:
Our Church answers questions like, Before we came to this earth, where did we live. and What is the true purpose of life, and What happens to us after death.
Dwight

I don't know why you care who thinks what as long you're happy with your religion but I'll bite.

The question sounds real dumb but where did we live before we came to this earth?

Hi Chick,

I, too, am interested in Dwight/Skippy's answer. Just maybe, because you asked the question -- he may answer. But, don't count on it. That is against their Mormon Evangelism 101 training -- to answer questions.

So, let's see if Dwight/Skippy starts doing the "Mormon Two Step" again.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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WINDSONG, kindly refrain from addressing me as "my Brother."

I am neither your brother after the flesh nor your brother in matters of spiritual beliefs.

I consider it an insult to be called a "brother" to anyone who espouses the Satanic and blasphemous cultic belief system to which you are enslaved.

As to your ramblings about the nature of "belief," and "knowledge,"WINDSONG, I can only say that you have simply "lost it," and by that I mean you have abandoned all sense of obligation to standards of rational inquiry. You have shown yourself, in your post above, to have been reduced to a blithering fanatic, having eschewed any kind of commitment to sensible concepts of inquiry, evidence and proof as you stretch beyond all bounds of common sense to confirm your fealty to the bizarre and indefensible tenets of your zany cultic belief system.

That is YOU, WINDSONG. Look in the mirror and behold the product of Mormon brainwashing. In your case, apparently, all that was required was a light rinse.
Betrnun I see you and Bill love to tango together.
Every time Bill jumps in you have to tap him as your partner. You guys
are amazeing on the floor with your self rightous know everything attitude.
You guys are a joke with your I'm more rightous than you stance. And if
you are not Dwights and everyone elses brother you must not of come from
Adam and Eve, who in turn were created by God. You must be discendant from
an ape, who in turn was a descendant of an amoeba or ameba. You guys seem to be
of the same faith. At first I thought it was the church of Bill, but now I'm
not sure. Mabey it's the Church of Betrnun. Beternun, someone said you might
be a member of the none-denominational Church of Christ or the Churches of
Christ. Why are you so secretive? Are you afraid that someone will flip the
bottle to you? Afraid you will be in the spot light? If you remain silent
I will assume this is true. Kind of like you thinking everything in the anti-
LDS sites is fact. So until you enlighten me I will be digging into your
Church. I will get back to you today. Don't be ashamed of your faith. I'm
not ashamed of mine, actually I,m proud of my church. I'm not afraid, as you
are, to discuss my knowledge of the Gospel. So if you respond with more
attacks without facts about your beleifs and Church, there will be no
discussion. A discussion is two points of veiw. We don't have classes like
your Churches do on how to argue/ debate other religions. We just have the
knowledge of the Gospel. What's your Gospel?

Keep Marching for an Honest Debate,
Skippy Cool
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Originally posted by semiannualchick:
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Originally posted by WINDSONG:
Our Church answers questions like, Before we came to this earth, where did we live. and What is the true purpose of life, and What happens to us after death.
Dwight


I don't know why you care who thinks what as long you're happy with your religion but I'll bite.

The question sounds real dumb but where did we live before we came to this earth?


Semi, I thought you were an athiest. If you are, my answers hold no validity to you.
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Originally posted by WINDSONG:
Our Church answers questions like, Before we came to this earth, where did we live. and What is the true purpose of life, and What happens to us after death.
Dwight


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Originally posted by semiannualchick:
I don't know why you care who thinks what as long you're happy with your religion but I'll bite.

The question sounds real dumb but where did we live before we came to this earth?


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Originally posted by WINDSONG:
Semi, I thought you were an athiest. If you are, my answers hold no validity to you .


I don't get it with you & Bill!! Where have you EVER read where I said I was an Atheist???? Truth is, you never have, both of you have judged me by assuming!

I have admitted being confused. I have said there seems to be contradictions in the Bible. I have said that when thinking long & hard about it, it seems unreal to me that a man takes a piece of dirt & makes a human out of it.
I have said I can't wrap my mind around our coming from monkeys or a big bang. Just because I feel those things doesn't mean I'm being dis-respectful to anyone. Need I go on?

The Atheist have said some things that make sense to me & causes me to question even more than I already have. The Atheist have been kind to me & have never talk down to me & judged me like some of the so called Christians here.

Any questions I put forth to you are honest & in no way meant to ridicule you.

Though I don't care for Bill & bet's way of mocking you & putting you down, I have to admit that some of the questions they asked you, I would like to hear your answer to.

It's your business if you answer or not, but you do seem to dodge some of the questions, just as Bill does the questions people here asked him.

If you want to know something about me, then ASK me. Do not assume you know the answers & judge me with your smart ass remarks!!
If I sound angry, you betcha I am!!!
I am an atheist. I freely declare that there is no reason to believe in gods. For that reason, I do not accept the existence of gods.

Semi is not an atheist. She is a seeker. She seeks the truth. She and I need not agree on atheism to agree on this precept. She has her own paths to conclusions.

I admire semi.


She need not agree with me on my conclusions about the gods. Her honest questions are quite sufficient.


nsns
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Originally posted by Not Shallow Not Slim:
I am an atheist. I freely declare that there is no reason to believe in gods. For that reason, I do not accept the existence of gods.

Semi is not an atheist. She is a seeker. She seeks the truth. She and I need not agree on atheism to agree on this precept. She has her own paths to conclusions.

I admire semi.


She need not agree with me on my conclusions about the gods. Her honest questions are quite sufficient.
nsns


Thank you, sweetheart. Wink I'm taking a deep breathe & counting to 20....very slowly!
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Originally posted by bluetick:
Semi, I will have to take exception to your last statement. A drink or two of rum does NOT make you a drunk. That is a slap in the face to drunks everywhere. We have put a lot of effort into achieving that title and we do not take it lightly. We didn't get here with a drink or two of rum, it took time. Big Grin Wink


Maybe I said that wrong. A drink or two of rum wouldn't make me a drunk but it would definitely get this chick drunk. Big Grin

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