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Mediamatters -- Soros supported, propaganda front group. Not a serious source of information.

I do believe that Obama was born in the US. However, there something embarrassing on his long form birth certificate.

The certificate of live birth can't be used to obtain a US passport, which Obama has.

From State Department: http://travel.state.gov/passpo..._830.html#step3first

"Submit Evidence of U.S. Citizenship
When applying for a U.S. passport in person, evidence of U.S. citizenship must be submitted with Form DS-11. All documentation submitted as citizenship evidence will be returned to you. These documents will be delivered with your newly issued U.S. passport or in a separate mailing.

Primary Evidence of U.S. Citizenship (One of the following):
Previously issued, undamaged U.S. Passport
Certified birth certificate issued by the city, county or state*
Consular Report of Birth Abroad or Certification of Birth
Naturalization Certificate
Certificate of Citizenship

*A certified birth certificate has a registrar's raised, embossed, impressed or multicolored seal, registrar's signature, and the date the certificate was filed with the registrar's office, which must be within 1 year of your birth. Please note, some short (abstract) versions of birth certificates may not be acceptable for passport purposes.

Beginning April 1, 2011, all birth certificates must also include the full names of the applicant's parent(s). For more information, please see New Requirement for all U.S. Birth Certificates.

NOTE: If you do not have primary evidence of U.S. citizenship or your U.S. birth certificate does not meet the requirements, please see Secondary Evidence of U.S. Citizenship."

Typically, when the child of a US citizen is born abroad, the parents obtain a birth certificate from that nation. Then, at the US consulate obtain a consular report of birth abroad. That certificate may be used to transport the child out of the birth nation to the US. Then, the foreign nation's birth certificate and the consular report are submitted to a state to obtain a Certificate of Live Birth. That's what fuels the conspiracy theorists, combined with the fact that US law, at that time, did not confer US citizenship on children born to a mother of 18 (Obama's mother). The law had changed, but wasn't retroactive.

Personally, I suspect that his father might be a black American. That was a social embarrassment at the time. If the father was an African, was more socially acceptable. But, that would destroy the meme of his having a Kenyan father -- which made Obama rich. Or, the birth certificate could list him as white -- just an embarrassment to his present situation. Or, he's refusing to show it to fuel the conspiracy theorists. Good so far, but it might backfire.
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Originally posted by Mr.Dittohead:
Mixed race marriages were illegal in the US until 1967.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F...US_miscegenation.svg


Not sure what your point is?

"Between 1913 and 1948, 30 out of the then 48 states enforced anti-miscegenation laws.[19] Only Connecticut, New Hampshire, New York, New Jersey, Vermont, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Alaska, Hawaii, and the federal District of Columbia never enacted them."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A...merican_independence

Obama was born in 1961, reportedly, in the state of Hawaii, where interracial marriage was legal. Are you claiming Obama's father, whether American, or Kenyan, wasn't black? Or, not married? To paraphrase the late Dr. Butterfly McQueen, you don't know nothing about birthing no babies.
Perhaps his mother was going to travel to Alabama and was afraid of repercussions if she put his fathers race as black. I'm saying you dont know what is on his birth certificate, or even if one exists, and the reasons his mother would put anything on that document may never be known, NOR DOES IT MATTER TO ANYONE WITH A BRAIN.
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Originally posted by Mr.Dittohead:
Perhaps his mother was going to travel to Alabama and was afraid of repercussions if she put his fathers race as black. I'm saying you dont know what is on his birth certificate, or even if one exists, and the reasons his mother would put anything on that document may never be known, NOR DOES IT MATTER TO ANYONE WITH A BRAIN.


An original, if he was born here, would be in the state archives.
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Originally posted by beternU:
Read up and get yourselves educated:

http://mediamatters.org/research/201104070029


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Hey Betrnun,
One of the most despicable libral, socialist sites on the internet. So if you
want an education of how great Chairman Mou was, by all means please. You again are
trying to indoctrinate the folks in this forum with your socialist crap.

Keep Marching,
Skippy

P.S. I can see the doubt of the birthers. I have looked at the so-called birth certificate
of Obama. No reg.number(it's blacked out) There is no signiture or stamped or emmbossed
seal. The printing(lettering) appears to be digital. Meaning under Zoom the background
print dose not show in the blank areas around the print. Look for yourselves. I found it
thru snoops or snypes something like that. Also some very light reversed ink on the lower
middle that says Jun 6 2007. Possibly bled from the back. I don't know. Take a look and get
back.
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Originally posted by O No!:
It's OK! Let them carry on making fools of themselves. Between the birthers, and some of the wacker Tea Party members, Obama is a shoo-in in 2012.


O No look at the certificate. I never even give it a thought until the subject came up on this forum. It don't look right. I don't know.
read post above.

Keep Marching,
Skippy
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Originally posted by Opie Cunningham:
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Originally posted by skippy delepepper:
[QUOTE]
Hey Betrnun,
One of the most despicable libral, socialist sites on the internet. So if you
want an education of how great Chairman Mou was, by all means please.


You should be thankful for any form of education.

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Hey Opey old pal,
It's been a while. Hows it going? As far as that fishin trip,
I think I've gota pass. Mabey the next time.

Keep Marching,
Your Pal Skippy Cool

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