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New Orleans Went Under--A Black Man's Comments

Carefully read the whole article. You'll be amazed at this guy!!!
I don't know the man who wrote this, but I looked at his picture and read it
with my mouth hanging open. He says things here that no white man could ever
write and keep his job as a writer .

Say a hurricane is about to destroy the city you live in. Two questions:
What would you do?
What would you do if you were black?
Sadly, the two questions don't have the same answer.
To the first: Most of us would take our families out of that city quickly to
protect them from danger. Then, able-bodied men would ret urn to help others
in need, as wives and others cared for children, elderly, infirm and the
like.
For better or worse, Hurricane Katrina has told us the answer to the second
question. If you're black and a hurricane is about to destroy your city, you
ll probably wait for the government to save you.
This was not always the case. Prior to 40 years ago, such a pathetic
performance by the black community in a time of crisis would have been
inconceivable. The first response would have come from black men. They would
take care of their families, bring them to safety, and then help the rest of
the community. Then local government would come in.
No longer. When 75 percent of New Orleans residents had left the city, it
was primarily immoral, welfare-pampered blacks that stayed behind and waited
for the government to bail them out. This, as we know, did not turn out good
results.
Enter Jesse Jackson and Louis Farrakhan. Jackson and Farrakhan laid blame on
"racist" President Bush. Farrakhan actually proposed the idea that the
government blew up a levee so as to kill blacks and save whites. The two
demanded massive governmental spending to rebuild New Orleans , above and
beyond the federal government's proposed $60 billion. Not only that, these
two were positioning themselves as the gatekeepers to supervise the
dispersion of funds. Perfect: Two of the most dishonest elite blacks in
America , "overseeing" billions of dollars. I wonder where that money will
end up.
Of course, if these two were really serious about laying blame on government
they should blame the local one. Responsibility to perform legally and
practically fell first on the mayor of New Orleans . We are now all familiar
with Mayor Ray Nagin the black who likes to yell at President Bush for
failing to do Nagin's job. The facts, unfortunately, do not support Nagin's
wailing As the Washington Times puts it, "recent reports show [Nagin] failed
to follow through on his own city's emergency-response plan, which
acknowledged that thousands of the city's poorest residents would have no
way to evacuate the city."
One wonders how there was "no way" for these people to evacuate the city. We
have photographic evidence telling us otherwise. You've probably seen it by
now the photo showing 2,000 parked school buses, unused and underwater. How
much planning does it require to put people on a bus and leave town, Mayor
Nagin?
Instead of doing the obvious, Mayor Nagin (with no positive contribution
from Gov. Kathleen Blanco, the other major leader vested with responsibility
to address the hurricane disaster) loaded remaining new Orleans residents
into the Superdome and the city's convention center. We know how that plan
turned out.
About five years ago, in a debate before the National Association of Black
Journalists, I stated that if whites were to just leave the United States
and let blacks run the country, they would turn America into a ghetto within
10 years. The audience, shall we say, disagreed with me strongly. Now I have
to disagree with me. I gave blacks too much credit. It took a mere three
days for blacks to turn the Superdome and the convention center into ghettos
rampant with theft, rape and murder.
President Bush is not to blame for the rampant immorality of blacks. Had New
Orleans ' black community taken action, most would have been out of harm's
way. But most were too lazy, immoral and trifling to do anything productive
for themselves.
All Americans must tell blacks this truth. It was blacks' moral poverty not
their material poverty that cost them dearly in New Orleans . Farrakhan,
Jackson, and other race hustlers are to be repudiated for they will only
perpetuate this problem by stirring up hatred and applauding moral
corruption. New Orleans , to the extent it is to be rebuilt, should be
remade into a dependency-free, morally strong city where corruption is
opposed and success is applauded. Blacks are obligate d to help themselves
and not depend on the government to care for them. We are all obligated to
tell them so.
The Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson is founder and president of BOND, the
Brotherhood Organization of A New Destiny, and author of "Scam: How the
Black Leadership Exploits Black America."
"Except for ending Slavery, Fascism, Nazism, and Communism; war has never solved anything!"
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Well written. I cant agree more but would have never said it out loud. The Hurricane Prevention Effort budget has crested $75 Billion with much of the work (cant throw out %) having an 8A (minority) set-aside. These set asides could potentially make a minority a very rich person. I have seen many 8a contractors land these only to mismanage and not complete, even worked for one until mismanagement got the best of our relationship. The Hurricane was a bad deal, but its over time to pick up and move on. Uncle Sugar has thrown a lot of cash around NOLA. I wish I could be a minority contractor!
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Originally posted by SO TIRED OF IGNORANCE:
Ridiculous. This article is an opinion of a racist. I cannot beleive anyone would agree with this. If this man is indeed African American then that does not change the fact that he is spewing hate and ignorance. To suggest the fallout from a natural disaster was the VICTIMS FAULT is absurd.


It doesn't matter if he's black or white, IMO he's right on all points.
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Originally posted by SO TIRED OF IGNORANCE:
Ridiculous. This article is an opinion of a racist. I cannot beleive anyone would agree with this. If this man is indeed African American then that does not change the fact that he is spewing hate and ignorance. To suggest the fallout from a natural disaster was the VICTIMS FAULT is absurd.


OW grow up. You don't have to be a genius to see what happened in N.O. It is also readily verifiable that indeed Rev Patterson is most certainly black.
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Originally posted by SO TIRED OF IGNORANCE:
Ridiculous. This article is an opinion of a racist. I cannot beleive anyone would agree with this. If this man is indeed African American then that does not change the fact that he is spewing hate and ignorance. To suggest the fallout from a natural disaster was the VICTIMS FAULT is absurd.



Everyone should take personal responsibility for their safety and the safety of their family.
I think that was the problem was the mentality that the government will fix it all so they didn't heed the warnings to get out.
"All Americans must tell blacks this truth. It was blacks' moral poverty not
their material poverty that cost them dearly in New Orleans . Farrakhan,
Jackson, and other race hustlers are to be repudiated for they will only
perpetuate this problem by stirring up hatred and applauding moral
corruption. New Orleans , to the extent it is to be rebuilt, should be
remade into a dependency-free, morally strong city where corruption is
opposed and success is applauded. Blacks are obligate d to help themselves
and not depend on the government to care for them. We are all obligated to
tell them so."


The bad thing about this statement is that if a white person said that to a black person he/she would be labeled a racist SOB. Please tell me I am wrong here.
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Originally posted by TIMGOTHARD:
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Originally posted by SO TIRED OF IGNORANCE:
Ridiculous. This article is an opinion of a racist. I cannot beleive anyone would agree with this. If this man is indeed African American then that does not change the fact that he is spewing hate and ignorance. To suggest the fallout from a natural disaster was the VICTIMS FAULT is absurd.



Everyone should take personal responsibility for their safety and the safety of their family.
I think that was the problem was the mentality that the government will fix it all so they didn't heed the warnings to get out.


All I can say is God is disappointed to know that people are responding to his children in this way. To A-S-S-U-M-E that a population of people brought about their own death/destruction and made choices because of the color of their skin is disturbing. What do you make of the white people that lost their lives?, I suppose they were just a fluke? Pitiful

You didnt live there, you didnt go through it, How dare you judge thousands of others. If you think that about those black people then you must be including ALL black people and that is just ignorant.
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You didnt live there, you didnt go through it, How dare you judge thousands of others. If you think that about those black people then you must be including ALL black people and that is just ignorant.



Nope. That last statement is ignorant. Why would thinking that people too lazy to leave would reflect on all black people? You are the only person on this thread that has said anything about "all black" people. The postings before you were addressing people who just sat waiting for other people to "take care" of them, yet again.

Apparently you are shocked that "other black people" are honest enough to state facts concerning shiftless blacks. Why? White people don't kneejerk defend shiftless white people.
It is no doubt that some did not have the means to leave and the buses should have been used. LOCAL government failure. Does that mean that everyone didn't have the means? Not at all. I just can not imagine that if I was told there will be catastrophic damage where I am currently living that I would wait around for the government to save me and my family.

There is a welfare mentality that is running rampant in today's society. It isn't just a black or white issue. There is a welfare class that is content to do no better.
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Originally posted by vick13:
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You didnt live there, you didnt go through it, How dare you judge thousands of others. If you think that about those black people then you must be including ALL black people and that is just ignorant.



Nope. That last statement is ignorant. Why would thinking that people too lazy to leave would reflect on all black people? You are the only person on this thread that has said anything about "all black" people. The postings before you were addressing people who just sat waiting for other people to "take care" of them, yet again.

Apparently you are shocked that "other black people" are honest enough to state facts concerning shiftless blacks. Why? White people don't kneejerk defend shiftless white people.


Listen, when a person of any color beleives him or herself to be superior to others, intellectually or otherwise, then when they speak they cannot hear the bias when it comes out of their mouths, this is the case here. You are a nurse in Alabama, you only know what the circumstances in Louisiana were by what is reported in the media. ALL I KNOW is that HUMAN BEINGS DIED - CHILDREN. To sit on a high horse and say the ONLY reason they didnt leave is because that BLACK people depend on the government for everything is STUPID for a lack of a better term. Yes, if you read the article, he refered to BLACK people. He did not single out certain ones, he said the race of people.
I won't go into what I think about abuse of the system past this...there has been plenty of it & if caught they should be prosecuted. I will tell you what a lady from Pass Christian that I met while on vacation had to say.

Most importantly, she said that if you leave your home unwatched that looters will rob you blind and damage what's left after a hurricane.

Second, she said that they've been told they are in danger by a hurricane so many times and then it turns out to be a false alarm that they no longer listen - they can't run for the hills every time.

However, she did say that she would never stay again. They survived but were terrified. She still has nightmares.

So, it's easy for us to judge from North Alabama, but how many times have you ignored a tornado warning?

Now do I think New Orleans should be rebuilt? Not if it comes out of my pocket. I know it is their home and I know it would be painful to let go of it, but there is life after relocation and it can be great. Don't rebuild something that's proven to be dangerous. Why would you place your loved ones in danger again knowing what can happen? JMHO
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Listen, when a person of any color beleives him or herself to be superior to others, intellectually or otherwise, then when they speak they cannot hear the bias when it comes out of their mouths, this is the case here. You are a nurse in Alabama, you only know what the circumstances in Louisiana were by what is reported in the media. ALL I KNOW is that HUMAN BEINGS DIED - CHILDREN. To sit on a high horse and say the ONLY reason they didnt leave is because that BLACK people depend on the government for everything is STUPID for a lack of a better term. Yes, if you read the article, he refered to BLACK people. He did not single out certain ones, he said the race of people.



I am a nurse in Alabama that had dozens of patients from New Orleans that had fled the hurricane, most of them black. They packed up what they could, left the rest and got out of Dodge. These were people with chronic conditions that were exacerbated by leaving so quickly (sickle cell, copd, diabetes, ms) and under such duress. But they left. They took buses, rented cars, carpooled.

We made positions for displaced nurses from the New Orleans area. We made donations and deductions from our payroll checks to help. We gave blood. And we felt awful for the ones who were left.

Until...we had our people return from working in the Super Dome and aid stations and heard the stories from people we knew and trusted about the greediness, violence, and laziness of the people they were trying to help. And yes, most of those people were black.

Would the same thing have happened if it had been in a lower income white neighborhood? Who knows. Maybe. But we know it happened in a lower income black area.
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Originally posted by fineazell1:
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Originally posted by SO TIRED OF IGNORANCE:
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Ignoring everything else, can you answer one question.

Who's to blame for the thousands of people that chose to stay (and die)?

White people?
Black people?
Local Government?
Themselves?

It is a simple question - can you answer it?


No one is to blame during a natural disaster. The response after the disaster was poor by the government. But in hindsight yes, I am sure there are those that said " I should have done whatever it took to get out of N.O." No doubt - but as Joy said I am sure there were those that were numb to hearing it all of their lives, some were sick, some were poor, some were stupid, some didnt want to leave their homes for fear of looting. Did it have anything to do with the color of their skin. Of course not. Should the government reacted differently, of course.
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Originally posted by SO TIRED OF IGNORANCE:
Listen, when a person of any color beleives him or herself to be superior to others, intellectually or otherwise, then when they speak they cannot hear the bias when it comes out of their mouths, this is the case here. You are a nurse in Alabama, you only know what the circumstances in Louisiana were by what is reported in the media. ALL I KNOW is that HUMAN BEINGS DIED - CHILDREN. To sit on a high horse and say the ONLY reason they didnt leave is because that BLACK people depend on the government for everything is STUPID for a lack of a better term. Yes, if you read the article, he refered to BLACK people. He did not single out certain ones, he said the race of people.


This is why we can't have any kind of intelligent discussion on race anymore....someone always has to play the "so you think you're better than them" card, and accuse people of being racist all the while twisting the facts and clouding the issue.

It has gotten to the point that mainstream America is so scared, so afraid of be called a racist by someone like So Tired who thinks that just because some poeple are victims or because they are minorities that the whole situation is above reproach, that no one can even state the obvious. Brings to mind how the emporer really does have no clothes....

No one in this thread has said that they are superior to anyone else. They have only stated the obvious: that a number of people relied on the government to take care of them and their families and friends--with poor results, and that the majority of that group was black.

Also, no one said that the only reason these people didn't leave is because they are black. It was only said that many of the ones who didn't leave WERE black, and that many of the ones who didn't leave rely heavily on the goverment and others the take care of them. That is a fact, and is not open to interpretation or negotiation. Nor should it be considered an off color statement and more than saying that the sky is blue.

It was also said that this particular group of people who stayed, are generally the type who allow the government to provide everything for them, and then have the nerve to complain about the way in which that care is delivered. I would like to pose the question: how much have they contributed to this government that is supposed to bail them out? I certainly think that should be studied after all the money and aid that has be sent there.

So, did many people chose to rely on the government when they should have cared for themselves? Yes
Where most of these people black? Yes
Do most of the people blame the government for their situation? Yes
Could they have made more efforts to provide for themselves and each other? Yes

I'm not claiming that everyone who stayed could have gotten out. I'm not claiming that everyone chose to stay. And I'm certainly not claiming that they stayed because they were black--I don't think anyone is claiming anything that ridiculous. But I am stating a fact that most of them WERE indeed black, and most of them certainly relied on the government to provide for them rather than taking care of themselves.
Ooooooh, you are racist! Don't you just feel awful now? Are you weeping and tearing your hair? Me neither.

Accusing people of being racist when they state facts is just a control thing. Keeps the masses from stating the obvious. However, it doesn't keep the majority from THINKING and knowing the obvious. Just keeps them from stating it. You can legislate what I am allowed to say without retaliation. You CANNOT, however, legislate what I know. And you cannot make me "like" it.

If half as much effort was going into making these welfare bums get off their asses and work as is spent on who is "racist", there'd be no problem.
Yes, Vick, this sort of "crying wolf" on the race issue is exactly what has gotten us into the current mess, stifling intelligent thought and debate on touchy subjects, and encouraging people to act like victims. Then those victims raise the next generation of victims until everyone thinks the government owes them a living.

As I mentioned above, it has gotten to the ridiculous point that everyone is afraid to say anything that might be controversial for fear of being attacked and called a racist, bigot, or some other conversation stopper just for stating facts as they are. It is most certainly the reason this country lacks leadership that can accomplish anything, and is the only thing keeping idiots like Jesse Jerkson, and Al Not-So-Sharpton in the spotlight.

Personally, I'm sick to death of the whole situation, and have just gotten to the point that I say what I want when I want, and if someone doesn't like it they can just get over it. Not everyone is going to like everything all the time. I just wish we had some more politicians that would follow suit. I think that then and only then will we be able to make people take personal responsibility for their own situations.
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Originally posted by aubfire1:
No one in this thread has said that they are superior to anyone else.


You dont have to say it, it reflects in your speech.

I contribute more every week to the Federal Government than you do..........Does that mean that we should receive a different standard of services?

Apparently, you did not take the time to read the original post. Every sentence refers to the color of skin. If it plays no part, then why bring it up.

Your right, no intelligent conversation can occur on the topic of race on this forum. I can tell you and I are from a different generations, I suppose thats just the way you were raised. GOD CREATED E-V-E-R-Y-O-N-E equal. In a discussion about a natural disaster where lives were lost, the color of skin should not be a consideration. Their souls have no color.
Ok, if the people of New Orleans were green, they were still lazy and irresponsible when it came to helping themselves. There were many, responsible(black, white, possibly green)people, that recognized the trouble ahead and acted. There were too many that were so adapted to sitting, waiting on someone else(Uncle Sam)to respond. Guesss what, it backfired on them this time. This is not insensitive, it is true.

Responsible people have the right to call irresponsible people on their foolishness. It is not racist. It does not matter what color they are. If they sit and wait on someone else to 'fix' whatever is lacking in their world, they deserve to do without. Did they deserve to die? That is not my call. The fact that they did die as a result of their not moving to safety, is just a fact. Sure, there were a few, who, do to physical disabilities, could not do better. Still, the folks that were on the news, in that Superdome, were healthy enough to scream and protest about how awful they were being treated, yet, they made no effort to help themselves.

I see it everyday. All around me. It does not take a storm to see that we have too many 'victims' in our world, who want more and more. Yet, they are not willing to work in a pie factory. Sorry, no sympathy here.

I respect this man for having the backbone to speak out on a problem that has always been around, but is steadily getting worse. Does anyone know if he might be interested in running for president? We need someone who is a thinking person. Who is not as concerned with being politically correct, as he is with using common sense.

I am 'against' anyone who is determined to sit on their stools of do-nothing and whine about how mistreated they are and how bad they have it. I don't care what color they may be. I am confident that it is not a black and white issue. It is a lazy and productive issue. If you are lazy, you don't deserve to eat. If you are productive, you will probably have what you need...unless...they(Uncle Sam) keep insisting that we pay more and more to support the lazy.
So Tired, since you asked, the answer is yes. I do believe that you should receive services that correlate directly to what you contribute. I think that is only fair. The problem with our country now is that many people believe that they are ENTITLED to government services without contributing anything. I would remind you that if someone wasn't contributing there would be no services. And I think that at the current rate at which the Dems are pimping out these tax-payer provided services to buy votes, that may be the very situation we run into before long.

The original post has to do with the curious fact that most of the people who chose to let the government provide everything for them, do nothing to take care of themselves, then blame others for their problems in this particular case, were black. Now isn't that a curious fact? And yes, it is a fact.

I wouldn't be so sure about us being from different generations, especially if you are insenuating that I might be an older person raised in the racist South, like I'm sure you would like to believe. I am simply a well-educated and practical human being that is sick and tired of people trying to cloud the issues and hide the facts because they are not pleasing to them or easy to stomach. The very fact that they are not pleasing does not take away the truth.

And if you would now like to play the Christian card, since the race card didn't stop the discussion, so be it. Yes, God created everyone very much equal; what they do after that is very much their choice. And if they are inclined to make poor choices, do dumb things, not take any personal responsibility in their lives, and blame others for the outcome, then they should readily expect the rest of us to criticize them. And when there is one primary identifying factor, yes many of us may comment that it seems to be certain people possessing that particular factor that are having a lot of problems. Especially when those people put themselves in the spotlight by demanding aid from the rest of the country.

And, just because lives were lost in a given situation, does that mean that any and all discussion on why it happened that way is off limits? Or just the subjects that some find offensive or distasteful?

Let me state my personal opinion here. I have no problem with any particular group of people as a whole. But when an entire group of people let their own bad apples make them look bad, it is their duty to take care of the problem themselves, otherwise it is fair game for anyone else who has enough common sense to see the problem. But when the rest of the group chooses to deny the problem, and then when other people who don't have the stomach or the grit to deal with it serve as enablers furthering their cause by trying to stop any constructive criticism, it gripes me.

Luckily I believe that things are just beginning to turn around in this country, and for the better. I think that many of the silent majority are becoming less satisfied with remaining silent when they see the kind of abuses of political correctness, and abuses of the taxpayers' money. I hope that the tides are turning, and that people can look at something that walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, and not be afraid to call it a duck for fear of being attacked by foul everywhere.

And no intelligent discussion of race can occur anywhere when people like you think that the subject should be off limits because it offends someone, or because in this case lives were lost, or for whatever other reason. Your type already has gotten things to the point that race altogether is considered a taboo subject at best, which is just how you apparently want it. Well, I'm telling you that the silent majority is getting tired of allowing it and discussion is getting more common as it should.
We have a nice subdivision just built near us (very near us). Right now it's pretty much 50/50 as far as white/black goes. But our friend who lives there just got a flyer out of his mailbox (in this neighborhood) for the "black" residents (apparently someone goofed and put it in his box) concerning: "Taking back the land" with a seminar date at a local black church for instructions on buying/obtaining minority financing loans in this neighborhood for blacks only. I'm waiting on the brochure from him and I'm scanning it in for you guys to read.

Can you imagine what would happen if white people churches had these seminars? "Take back the land for the caucasion race"?
Actually, the main problem I have with this "take back the land" thing is that apparently the buying the house with "special financing" works like this (according to the realtor who now has almost half of the less than a year old houses back on the market): the potential "buyer" applies for the special loan, they have no downpayment money (none required), the are allowed to live in the house 3-6 months payment free. This is theoretically so they can take the money that would've been spent on house payments and save it to make a downpayment. These are $250-280,000 houses so I'm sure the amount per month is substantial. Instead of saving the hypothetical house payment money and having the funds when the preliminary period is over, the "buyers" with "special" financing apparently just spends the money. At any rate, at the real financing time, there is no money for the downpayment then either. So almost half the houses are in foreclosure. So the builder who signed up for this or agreed to the "special" financing is fireselling the houses. Which is killing the appraisal value and resale value of the homes in the surrounding neighborhood. Which includes MY house.

Gives "taking back the land" a whole new meaning, huh?
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So Tired, since you asked, the answer is yes. I do believe that you should receive services that correlate directly to what you contribute. I think that is only fair. The problem with our country now is that many people believe that they are ENTITLED to government services without contributing anything. I would remind you that if someone wasn't contributing there would be no services. And I think that at the current rate at which the Dems are pimping out these tax-payer provided services to buy votes, that may be the very situation we run into before long.

The original post has to do with the curious fact that most of the people who chose to let the government provide everything for them, do nothing to take care of themselves, then blame others for their problems in this particular case, were black. Now isn't that a curious fact? And yes, it is a fact.

I wouldn't be so sure about us being from different generations, especially if you are insenuating that I might be an older person raised in the racist South, like I'm sure you would like to believe. I am simply a well-educated and practical human being that is sick and tired of people trying to cloud the issues and hide the facts because they are not pleasing to them or easy to stomach. The very fact that they are not pleasing does not take away the truth.

And if you would now like to play the Christian card, since the race card didn't stop the discussion, so be it. Yes, God created everyone very much equal; what they do after that is very much their choice. And if they are inclined to make poor choices, do dumb things, not take any personal responsibility in their lives, and blame others for the outcome, then they should readily expect the rest of us to criticize them. And when there is one primary identifying factor, yes many of us may comment that it seems to be certain people possessing that particular factor that are having a lot of problems. Especially when those people put themselves in the spotlight by demanding aid from the rest of the country.

And, just because lives were lost in a given situation, does that mean that any and all discussion on why it happened that way is off limits? Or just the subjects that some find offensive or distasteful?

Let me state my personal opinion here. I have no problem with any particular group of people as a whole. But when an entire group of people let their own bad apples make them look bad, it is their duty to take care of the problem themselves, otherwise it is fair game for anyone else who has enough common sense to see the problem. But when the rest of the group chooses to deny the problem, and then when other people who don't have the stomach or the grit to deal with it serve as enablers furthering their cause by trying to stop any constructive criticism, it gripes me.

Luckily I believe that things are just beginning to turn around in this country, and for the better. I think that many of the silent majority are becoming less satisfied with remaining silent when they see the kind of abuses of political correctness, and abuses of the taxpayers' money. I hope that the tides are turning, and that people can look at something that walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, and not be afraid to call it a duck for fear of being attacked by foul everywhere.

And no intelligent discussion of race can occur anywhere when people like you think that the subject should be off limits because it offends someone, or because in this case lives were lost, or for whatever other reason. Your type already has gotten things to the point that race altogether is considered a taboo subject at best, which is just how you apparently want it. Well, I'm telling you that the silent majority is getting tired of allowing it and discussion is getting more common as it should.




VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY WELL SAID!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by SO TIRED OF IGNORANCE:
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Originally posted by fineazell1:
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Originally posted by SO TIRED OF IGNORANCE:
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Ignoring everything else, can you answer one question.

Who's to blame for the thousands of people that chose to stay (and die)?

White people?
Black people?
Local Government?
Themselves?

It is a simple question - can you answer it?


No one is to blame during a natural disaster. The response after the disaster was poor by the government. But in hindsight yes, I am sure there are those that said " I should have done whatever it took to get out of N.O." No doubt - but as Joy said I am sure there were those that were numb to hearing it all of their lives, some were sick, some were poor, some were stupid, some didnt want to leave their homes for fear of looting. Did it have anything to do with the color of their skin. Of course not. Should the government reacted differently, of course.

What should the Government have done differently?

Which Government?
Local? - FAILED
State? - FAILED
Federal? - FAILED (according to you)

It is funny how the Federal Government catches the heat when if the LOCAL government had ACTUALLY used the evacuation plan and MONEY that the FEDS had given them for YEARS prior to Katrina, only a few thousand people might still be left.

That did not happen but it has been ignored.

The State Government should have stepped in and forced the LOCAL Government to do their job, again, DID NOT HAPPEN.

So now we have one of America's worst disasters (by the numbers). The casualties could have been limited if only the first three lines of defense had acted responsibly.

1st line - ME
I am responsible for me
2nd line - Local Government
They are responsible for the ones that can not help themselves.
3rd line - State Government
They are responsible for assisting the Local Government when needed.

So when you think about a Government that FAILED, think about who was in charge BEFORE the people of N.O. were mistreated.
It wasn't "WHITE AMERICA" that failed the people of N.O. It was the People of N.O. that failed.
They just happen to be primarily black, primarily impoverished, and apparently lacking in the ability to make the good decision to leave when given the warning.

Does stating this make me a racist?

If by your definition I am, I think you are the one with the blinders and you might want to think about changing your name.

BTW, there is so much more information about Katrina that I haven't bothered to bring here but you would be amazed at how incredibly wrong you are about how the (Federal) Government responded.

If you are interested, I will dig it up.

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