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Has anyone meet a minority who says that Affirmative action laws and policies have advanced them in their jobs and positions? Any of the folks I talked to always said it was their hard work and education  which got them advanced in life. Maybe we should find out all those folks who were helped by AA and let them know that they did not get there by themselves. And so it can be pointed out to the other minorities who say they can't get ahead should look to those who did use the system to advance themselves.

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wow this topic could get ugly. Most probably really don't realize or think AA helped them. I knew a woman who made it to a position in 3 years when the avg. for a white male had been between 10 and 15 years. Then she complained she was underpaid, that the man before her made a lot more money. What she didn't realize was he got 3 promotions before getting to that position. Each promotion gave him a raise. She took one promotion, and the company had a cap on each promotion. So yes he got paid more, due to taking the hard road. Oh and she got fired because she couldn't do the job. Hmmmm again must be the white man's fault.

There are all kinds of reasons for and against AA.  One of the best-known beneficiaries of AA is Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas.  

 

"Clarence Thomas, Supreme Court justice, explains his legal reasoning for rejecting affirmative action in the latest court ruling. Clarence Thomas admits that he was a beneficiary of affirmative action."

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/J...ion-to-Jim-Crow-laws

 

 

An editorial in the Seattle Times commented on Thomas' opposition to AA in another case:

 

"THERE is something unseemly about a guy who has just built a house on the beach and is now leading the charge to stop all further beach-front construction.

Or a recent immigrant who climbs the soapbox to call for a halt to further immigration.

Or a beneficiary of affirmative-action programs who climbs the ladder of success by attacking affirmative action."

http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19950626&slug=2128294

Originally Posted by dogsoldier0513:

How about a white losing a job because a black didn't think a white could work with black kids? BTDT

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How about a white girl being fired because it was a "black shop", their words not mine, and ALL the employees got huffy and angry because the owner (black) hired a white person? That was the ONLY complaint they had about the girl, she was white. "Tabitha Takes Over" was the show, and after the owner fired the girl, they were all happy and smiling. Pure out and out racism/discrimination, you name it. 

Affirmative action and discrimination are two similar, but separate things.  Its time for affirmative action, as a government tool, to be phased out.  Out and out discrimination should always be not be.  However, I reserve the right to discriminate in my taste in women -- like the better looking ones, whether Haile Berry, or Katy Perry.

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