Say you could stop the school shootings-then what??

Br’er Rabbit posted:
antimaim posted:

The shame of it is how the left doesn't give a **** about kids. It's sad actually.

Bestworking/antimae would rather climb a tree and lie as to stand on the ground and be truthful. What a sad excuse for a human.

All lying liberals are standing on the ground DB, but climb a tree,,,..??

WTH is that all about........??!!

interesting that Dems talk one thing, a gun.  the gun is a tool, the  shooting is a symptom.  Republicans talk several different things, culture, games/movies, single parent families, bullies, God taking out of school, untrained teachers, union interference in schools, etc.   The difference is one is a tool, the other are possible causes.  The reason we need to figure our solutions on a cause is that might change for future.  Where as taking away the symptom, the cause will still be there. 

Wabbit as far as calling names,, remember the name sake you have chosen answer is to run and find a hole to hide.  I prefer to stand up and defend.

God bless America

1130 posted:

interesting that Dems talk one thing, a gun.  the gun is a tool, the  shooting is a symptom.  Republicans talk several different things, culture, games/movies, single parent families, bullies, God taking out of school, untrained teachers, union interference in schools, etc.   The difference is one is a tool, the other are possible causes.  The reason we need to figure our solutions on a cause is that might change for future.  Where as taking away the symptom, the cause will still be there. 

Wabbit as far as calling names,, remember the name sake you have chosen answer is to run and find a hole to hide.  I prefer to stand up and defend.

God bless America

We haven't even ventured into other territories, such as unwed mothers (kids), child abuse, (kids left in abusive situations), teachers having sex with teens, and grown men calling the teen boys lucky. There are so many reasons for these shootings to be happening, things that ARE fixable, but the left only needs and wants to harp on one thing to stir up people, guns. Now they are going after kids so they can keep their voter base going and growing. Dems do not care about kids. Of the 17 that were killed, the left would have supported them being torn out of their mother's bodies if she had chosen to do that, or allowed someone to stick a pair of scissors in their brains after they were born.  They would have put on their little pink ***** hats and marched for the women's rights to kill them. Now, dead, they are of use to them in other ways.

giftedamateur posted:

"teachers having sex with teens, and grown men calling the teen boys lucky". 

I bet old baldie is one of those men.

The only part of this guy's post "fit to print", if you can call it that.

"Just another teen age guy getting lucky".

  • It's simply Math. 19 goes into 44... VERY well !!

 

LEXINGTON COUNTY, SC A former Airport High School assistant principal admitted having an inappropriate relationship with a student, apologized to his mother for the relationship but also said she was in love with him, according to documents released Monday morning from the Cayce-West Columbia school district. Dawn Diimmler, 44, faces two charges of sexual battery with a student – one each with the Columbia Police Department and the Cayce Department of Public Safety – on allegations that she engaged in a relationship with an Airport High School student who was 19 at the time while she was the school’s assistant principal. She faces up to five years in prison on each of the felony charges, if convicted. ...

Ronald Reagan ban assault weapons. Don't Republicans worship him? Antimae and her sidekicks have no concept of reality. Their hate blinds them to any progress for Americans. The majority of Americans want stricter gun laws and see no need for civilian versions of military weapons. Law enforcement officers agree, as well.

 

Teen mom "star"? More of the tripe being fed to teens and presented as "normal" and a desirable way to live. But it's the guns that are the problem.

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Teen Mom OG star Farrah Abraham is no stranger to controversy and it looks like she's found herself in the midst of it again following a recent interview with TMZ. When prompted by a photographer over the weekend, Abraham revealed she and her daughter have naked pictures of each other on their phones and a lot of people don't really know what to make of this admission. Abraham did not immediately respond to Romper's request for comment.

Abraham's recent comments to TMZ have indeed raised some eyebrows. On Friday, photographers talked with Abraham outside of a club and she spoke with them about her sex tape and said that "every celebrity has one." The subject quickly turned to Kim Kardashian and the photographer then asked Abraham what she thought of Kardashian's 4-year-old daughter, North, taking a topless mirror pic of Kardashian, which stirred up its own respective backlash. Abraham, who has a 9-year-old daughter named Sophia, certainly knows what it's like to be a mom in the spotlight like Kardashian. However, Abraham's response to this question was problematic to many.

"I mean my daughter and I, we just run around our house naked and live life free," Abraham told TMZ on Friday. "I mean, we have naked pictures on our phones of each other because we're like a mom and daughter crew. I mean, my mother has pictures of me being a baby running all over the yard naked."

Unsurprisingly, many people were shocked with her response. "What the F is wrong with you lady?" one commenter asked on TMZ's Facebook post of the story. "That kid is doomed." "Who has naked pics of their kids or like she stated of each other!!" another commenter wrote. "She is crazy!!"

Those sentiments were echoed in the comment section of TMZ's article. "Pure word vomit...just dropped yaself in it," one commenter wrote. "Wait a second, did she just say that she has naked pictures of her child on her phone?" another commenter asked. "Wow she is truly the dumbest person on earth."

Abraham may have tripped over her words when talking to this photographer, but considering Sophia's age, Abraham's nonchalant attitude about having naked photos of each other on their phones does raise questions and clearly isn't sitting well with some people, including Abraham's mom, Debra Danielsen. Danielsen denied to The Ashley's Reality Roundup that she had any photos of Abraham running around their yard without a shirt on as a child, according to The Inquistr. Danielsen told the outlet:

I have no photos of Farrah naked ever. Especially outside in our yard! Our neighborhood would never be a place for that especially when she was small. The only place we were naked was in the bathroom — which is normal when you are having a shower or beauty treatments.

If you've seen an episode of Teen Mom OG, then you know of Abraham, who was introduced to 16 & Pregnant audience members in 2009 when she appeared on the show as a cheerleader from Nebraska, pregnant with her daughter Sophia. But in the time since then, Abraham has entered the adult entertainment industry and was recently fired from Teen Mom OG. Last week, Abraham filed a lawsuit against Viacom and Teen Mom producers alleging that she was fired due to her work in the adult entertainment industry, according to E! News.

"I am here to make a change for the LGBT and female community at large, and I'm proud to stay true to my identity as a business entrepreneur, reality star, and single mother," Abraham told E! News in a statement. "I am a businesswoman a female celebrity leader who will not be shamed or discriminated against by Viacom, MTV, my peers as its illegal for me to do the same to them."

Regardless of the choices that Abraham has made in her personal or professional life, it is understandable that many people have been alarmed and concerned by this latest revelation.

 
 

As to arming teachers, one may simply study precedent.  In Israel, terrorists raided kindergartens and grammar schools regularly - gunning down infants and small children.  Teachers were trained and armed.  After a few terrorists were sent to Allah via a few rounds to the head, the terrorists sought other targets.  

direstraits posted:

As to arming teachers, one may simply study precedent.  In Israel, terrorists raided kindergartens and grammar schools regularly - gunning down infants and small children.  Teachers were trained and armed.  After a few terrorists were sent to Allah via a few rounds to the head, the terrorists sought other targets.  

Come on now Direstraits, you know better than use rational thought and reason when dealing with liberals.  Their agenda is the only thing that matters and anything that makes sense or proves otherwise is rejected out of hand.  Same reason you can't mention about the killer being harassed or bullied.  Same reason when dealing with Drunk Driving we blame the person rather than alcohol for we cannot blame the instrument other than with gun violence.  Liberals and many Democrats have one agenda and that is to neuter the 2nd Amendment or get rid of it all together.  Liberals and many Democrats don't care too much for the Constitution in the first place which is why they are always finding ways to get around it whether it be Obama's Executive orders or legislation by the Judicial branch or advocate judges.  

Naio posted:

Meanwhile, in America:  Americans are killing other Americans in schools.

True but don't we have LAWs, an abundance of them, making murder illegal, banning murder?  Same laws exist in Chicago and Baltimore yet there are murders every day even involving innocent kids but in the case of school shootings, new laws banning guns is the answer to all those evils.   

Remember prohibition and when the government banned alcohol?  How did that work out and did that eliminate problems stemming from alcohol?   What it did was create or explode a new industry .. CRIME Inc with folks like Al Capone prospering to a great degree and bringing about rum running and other ways to achieve obtaining that which was banned but was desired enough to justify, in many people's minds, whatever it took to obtain it.  Some could even say that it made the Kennedy family what they are.  

I am though curious and either from you or some others who advocate eliminating guns, do you really think and believe that there will be no more school deaths?   There are many ideas and I will admit that some or most of them might, under the right exact circumstances, prevent some future act but I believe chances are that they won't but that's no reason for doing nothing.  

I have no problem with the stores, that made the decision not to sell that type of gun, making the decision they did as that is their decision.  My problem with gun laws and the such is that the Constitution has a prescribed way to handle amendments and changing them or eliminating them and that is the way to handle this and not by Congressional legislation or act or by Executive order.  Trump banning the bump stock by executive order was a good move and wasn't infringing on the 2nd amendment but my fears are that there will be attempts to make moves that will infringe on the 2nd amendment.  

I've said before that I'm not for banning all guns.  Civilians don't need military type weapons though.  Chicago and Baltimore?  There are economic and education issues in both cities that need to be addressed.  I hate to be that guy, but there is a show called The Wire about the city of Baltimore.  Binge watch it sometime, and you might get some insight of the city's dysfunction.  I'm glad trump is considering bump stocks.  Sometimes though, it seems like you guys watch too many westerns.... "The good guy with the gun will always win."  Yeah, but in real life, people die and are injured before the good guy shows up....  

Naio posted:

So why don't we call the people who shoot up schools, churches, malls, or movie theaters terrorists?  Why does it have to be a liberal vs conservative thing?

Semantics, they are terrorist, cowards, mental, or potentially guilty of several descriptors that you, I or someone else may think of.  I, also, am guilty of making accusations and stereotypes of liberals or some Democrats and that isn't always justified or warranted.  There are good people, and crazy folks, on both sides and there are people that certainly have differing opinions about how to solve this issue.  As different as we are though we all should agree that whatever we do should be consistent with our Constitution that we all are governed by. 

My personal problem with those who (I will say) pretend they are concerned about all the innocent's lives is that they are betrayed by their own inconsistencies.  They may want to remove all guns from America but they don't concern themselves with knives which are demonstrated, by facts and figures, to have killed far more or even alcohol which kills as many or more than guns and surely destroys far more households and families. It is those inconsistencies that I believe betray them and reveals a certain agenda rather than genuine concern for those whom they claim to have compassion and caring for.  I don't want to judge what is in the minds of people but rather allow their own actions to reveal them.

Naio posted:

I've said before that I'm not for banning all guns.  Civilians don't need military type weapons though.  Chicago and Baltimore?  There are economic and education issues in both cities that need to be addressed.  I hate to be that guy, but there is a show called The Wire about the city of Baltimore.  Binge watch it sometime, and you might get some insight of the city's dysfunction.  I'm glad trump is considering bump stocks.  Sometimes though, it seems like you guys watch too many westerns.... "The good guy with the gun will always win."  Yeah, but in real life, people die and are injured before the good guy shows up....  

I do believe you when you say you aren't for banning all guns and I don't believe that most people that are for eliminating the AR15's and the like do not want to ban all guns.  Here is the problem I see with it though.  I fully believe, given the history of this nation, it's founding and the Constitution that the founders, who wrote the Constitution, meant for ordinary citizens to possess and have military type weapons for the intent was to allow them the ability and power to overthrow or take back the government if it was ever taken away from the people.  That said we do have restrictions as it isn't reasonable for citizens to have rockets, rocket launchers, or machine guns and as time has gone by and technology and our population increased as well as the world around us then there are reasonable changes that could be suggested and made but, again, I believe if those changes are to be made they should be made by the prescribed method provided for those changes.  

If the changes happen and are approved, by the prescribed method, then so be it either you win or lose but you do so by the way the founders decided it should be done and not by quick legislation, or worse, advocate court action and we could be reaching a point, in the not so distant future, where even the Supreme Court is compromised and used for achieving legislation or agendas rather than its job or intended design.

gbrk posted:
Naio posted:

So why don't we call the people who shoot up schools, churches, malls, or movie theaters terrorists?  Why does it have to be a liberal vs conservative thing?

Semantics, they are terrorist, cowards, mental, or potentially guilty of several descriptors that you, I or someone else may think of.  I, also, am guilty of making accusations and stereotypes of liberals or some Democrats and that isn't always justified or warranted.  There are good people, and crazy folks, on both sides and there are people that certainly have differing opinions about how to solve this issue.  As different as we are though we all should agree that whatever we do should be consistent with our Constitution that we all are governed by. 

My personal problem with those who (I will say) pretend they are concerned about all the innocent's lives is that they are betrayed by their own inconsistencies.  They may want to remove all guns from America but they don't concern themselves with knives which are demonstrated, by facts and figures, to have killed far more or even alcohol which kills as many or more than guns and surely destroys far more households and families. It is those inconsistencies that I believe betray them and reveals a certain agenda rather than genuine concern for those whom they claim to have compassion and caring for.  I don't want to judge what is in the minds of people but rather allow their own actions to reveal them.

Fair enough

gbrk posted:
Naio posted:

I've said before that I'm not for banning all guns.  Civilians don't need military type weapons though.  Chicago and Baltimore?  There are economic and education issues in both cities that need to be addressed.  I hate to be that guy, but there is a show called The Wire about the city of Baltimore.  Binge watch it sometime, and you might get some insight of the city's dysfunction.  I'm glad trump is considering bump stocks.  Sometimes though, it seems like you guys watch too many westerns.... "The good guy with the gun will always win."  Yeah, but in real life, people die and are injured before the good guy shows up....  

I do believe you when you say you aren't for banning all guns and I don't believe that most people that are for eliminating the AR15's and the like do not want to ban all guns.  Here is the problem I see with it though.  I fully believe, given the history of this nation, it's founding and the Constitution that the founders, who wrote the Constitution, meant for ordinary citizens to possess and have military type weapons for the intent was to allow them the ability and power to overthrow or take back the government if it was ever taken away from the people.  That said we do have restrictions as it isn't reasonable for citizens to have rockets, rocket launchers, or machine guns and as time has gone by and technology and our population increased as well as the world around us then there are reasonable changes that could be suggested and made but, again, I believe if those changes are to be made they should be made by the prescribed method provided for those changes.  

If the changes happen and are approved, by the prescribed method, then so be it either you win or lose but you do so by the way the founders decided it should be done and not by quick legislation, or worse, advocate court action and we could be reaching a point, in the not so distant future, where even the Supreme Court is compromised and used for achieving legislation or agendas rather than its job or intended design.

I get this.  However, I don't believe that a military comprised of our fathers, mothers, daughters, sons, nieces, nephews, cousins, other family members, friends, and neighbors would ever turn against us.  The people are more important than the ones in power...

Br’er Rabbit posted:

Republicans: banning guns won't work, people will still get them.

also Republicans: we have to ban abortions.

the 'slippery slope' argument , to Republicans, only effects issues Republicans would rather ignore.

Abortions have done more to deplete potential Democratic voting ranks than anything concocted in the last 50 years.  Margaret Sanger would have been almost the perfect **** and surely had more in common with Adolph Hitler than most any other American with regards to establishing race purity.  Just check out some of her quotes and beliefs ... Margaret Sanger's Quotes

Had Margaret Sanger been a Republican today she would have surely been labeled a **** for some of her beliefs, never mind the originating of Planned Parenthood.  If one is to consider the death of the most innocent then the process and practice of Abortion surely has to rank up there at the top.  On one hand you have liberals clammering to protect the innocent kids at schools from shooters but at least they have some chance at survival for they can run and dodge and hide whereas the unborn fetus, every bit as viable a life, has no chance to dodge and run from the doctor's forceps and knives or scissors as the physician (loose term for the murderer) seeks to pull and tear away the fetus from its mother.  It could be argued that the majority of these planned deaths would more than likely be future Democratic voters so understandably they are on the lookout for an additional voter base such as the illegals to supplement those lost in the minority ranks.  I realize that minorities do not view Abortion as affecting their race but the facts if they cared to examine them closely, bear out that minorities are greatly affected.

gbrk posted:
Br’er Rabbit posted:

Republicans: banning guns won't work, people will still get them.

also Republicans: we have to ban abortions.

the 'slippery slope' argument , to Republicans, only effects issues Republicans would rather ignore.

Abortions have done more to deplete potential Democratic voting ranks than anything concocted in the last 50 years.  Margaret Sanger would have been almost the perfect **** and surely had more in common with Adolph Hitler than most any other American with regards to establishing race purity.  Just check out some of her quotes and beliefs ... Margaret Sanger's Quotes

Had Margaret Sanger been a Republican today she would have surely been labeled a **** for some of her beliefs, never mind the originating of Planned Parenthood.  If one is to consider the death of the most innocent then the process and practice of Abortion surely has to rank up there at the top.  On one hand you have liberals clammering to protect the innocent kids at schools from shooters but at least they have some chance at survival for they can run and dodge and hide whereas the unborn fetus, every bit as viable a life, has no chance to dodge and run from the doctor's forceps and knives or scissors as the physician (loose term for the murderer) seeks to pull and tear away the fetus from its mother.  It could be argued that the majority of these planned deaths would more than likely be future Democratic voters so understandably they are on the lookout for an additional voter base such as the illegals to supplement those lost in the minority ranks.  I realize that minorities do not view Abortion as affecting their race but the facts if they cared to examine them closely, bear out that minorities are greatly affected.

I rest my case. Thanks.

direstraits posted:

As to arming teachers, one may simply study precedent.  In Israel, terrorists raided kindergartens and grammar schools regularly - gunning down infants and small children.  Teachers were trained and armed.  After a few terrorists were sent to Allah via a few rounds to the head, the terrorists sought other targets.  

antimaim posted:

I was never much of a home schooling fan, but now I see the need to get kids out of the liberal run "institutions" that don't give a flip about kids' safety, only how to use them to push their loony, lefty, agendas. IF they really cared about kids,  there would be security in every public school in the country.

Amen.

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