Alabama became the third state to allow the execution of prisoners by nitrogen gas Thursday after Republican Gov. Kay Ivey signed legislation permitting the practice as an alternative to lethal injection.

The new law would allow execution by nitrogen hypoxia if lethal injection drugs are unavailable or ruled unconstitutional. Breathing the inert gas causes oxygen depletion in the bloodstream.

According to AL.com, inmates on death row also could choose to be electrocuted, though none have done so since Alabama adopted lethal injection in 2002.

The bill overwhelmingly passed the Alabama House of Representatives on Tuesday after it was approved unanimously by the State Senate last month. Supporters argued the state needs another method of carrying out death sentences as drug companies become hesitant to supply chemicals for executions and lethal injection faces continued court challenges.

“It would simply put him to sleep. It’s humane. It’s quick, and it’s painless,” Republican Rep. Jim Hill of Moody said during debate.

Opponents of the bill questioned how lawmakers could assert it would be painless since the method hasn’t been tried.

“We had Yellow Mama. Now, we are going to bring back the gas chamber,” Rep. Thomas Jackson, a Democrat from Thomasville, said, referencing the nickname for the state’s yellow-painted electric chair.

Last week, Oklahoma officials announced that they would use nitrogen to execute inmates once the state resumes using the death penalty. State Attorney General Mike Hunter said the administration of the gas likely would require the use of a mask placed over the inmate’s head, but he said the mechanical details still have to be worked out.

Oklahoma put executions on hold in 2015 after a series of execution mishaps. In 2014, a botched lethal injection left an inmate writhing on the gurney. The following year, one inmate was executed with an unapproved drug, and a second inmate was just moments away from being led to the death chamber before prison officials realized the same wrong drug had been delivered for his execution.

Since then, several top officials connected to the bungled executions have resigned and the state’s multicounty grand jury delivered a scathing report on Oklahoma’s lethal injection process that accused a number of individuals involved in the process of sloppy and careless work.

The Oklahoma Legislature formally approved the use of nitrogen gas as an execution method in 2015. Mississippi became the second state to approve the method last year.

Four other states allow the use of a gas chamber as an alternative method of execution, including Arizona, California, Missouri and Wyoming, according to the Death Penalty Information Center.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018...by-nitrogen-gas.html

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Kraven posted:
Why not have an Anesthesiologist do the deed in death roll cases.
It could take the guess work out of it.

I'm going to take a wild guess it's due to physicians and nurses taking an oath not to hurt anyone. Just a guess, mind you.

Seriously, a physician, no matter how he felt about capital punishment, would be in danger of losing his medical license if his name was revealed.

Currently in Alabama, paramedics start the IV and wardens start the drip.

Why not let them due by the method they murdered their victims?

The nitrogen is a as close to a perfect murder that is possible.  Seal up the bottoms of any doors, stick a hose under the door and open the valve to a big nitrogen bkttle.  The nitrogen stays on the floor and rises as it is heavier than air.  Eventually the nitrogen gets above the victim's head who is hopefully asleep.  The victim is without oxygen and dies.  Remove the tube piping nitrogen into the room and unreal the doors.  When the room airs out, there is no proof is left behind to why the victim died.

 

Recratican posted:
Kraven posted:Why not have an Anesthesiologist do the deed in death roll cases.It could take the guess work out of it.

I'm going to take a wild guess it's due to physicians and nurses taking an oath not to hurt anyone. Just a guess, mind you.

(Are those physicians and nurses that murder children everyday take that
oath not to hurt anyone. I think so, just a guess, mind you)

 

Seriously, a physician, no matter how he felt about capital punishment, would be in danger of losing his medical license if his name was revealed.

(Seriously, a person could be trained as an Anesthesiologist for that
reason working for the state without taking the oath, I know
it's complicated.)

 

Currently in Alabama, paramedics start the IV and wardens start the drip.

 

Kraven posted:
Recratican posted:
Kraven posted:Why not have an Anesthesiologist do the deed in death roll cases.It could take the guess work out of it.

I'm going to take a wild guess it's due to physicians and nurses taking an oath not to hurt anyone. Just a guess, mind you.

(Are those physicians and nurses that murder children everyday take that
oath not to hurt anyone. I think so, just a guess, mind you)

 

Seriously, a physician, no matter how he felt about capital punishment, would be in danger of losing his medical license if his name was revealed.

(Seriously, a person could be trained as an Anesthesiologist for that
reason working for the state without taking the oath, I know
it's complicated.)

 

Currently in Alabama, paramedics start the IV and wardens start the drip.

 

Hmmm, let's see what's wrong with that logic...

1. The State executes how many a year? I'd say four is a lot. So you want to keep an anesthesiologist on the payroll who might not even lift a finger in a year's time. Just how much would that payroll be? Looking online, about 250,000.00 per year.

2. Then you'd have the attorneys who would say it was cruel to use an "unlicensed anesthesiologist" to perform the task.

Oh, and tell us more about all those child murders that physicians and nurses do. Looks like they would have made at least one newspaper in the state, but guess not according to you.

Bamaman1 posted:

Why not let them due by the method they murdered their victims?

The nitrogen is a as close to a perfect murder that is possible.  Seal up the bottoms of any doors, stick a hose under the door and open the valve to a big nitrogen bkttle.  The nitrogen stays on the floor and rises as it is heavier than air.  Eventually the nitrogen gets above the victim's head who is hopefully asleep.  The victim is without oxygen and dies.  Remove the tube piping nitrogen into the room and unreal the doors.  When the room airs out, there is no proof is left behind to why the victim died.

 

Nitrogen in the blood stream, instead of oxygen, would show up during the autopsy.  One would be a true blue blood. 

Kraven posted:
Recratican posted:
Kraven posted:Why not have an Anesthesiologist do the deed in death roll cases.It could take the guess work out of it.

I'm going to take a wild guess it's due to physicians and nurses taking an oath not to hurt anyone. Just a guess, mind you.

(Are those physicians and nurses that murder children everyday take that
oath not to hurt anyone. I think so, just a guess, mind you)

 

Seriously, a physician, no matter how he felt about capital punishment, would be in danger of losing his medical license if his name was revealed.

(Seriously, a person could be trained as an Anesthesiologist for that
reason working for the state without taking the oath, I know
it's complicated.)

 

Currently in Alabama, paramedics start the IV and wardens start the drip.

 

I had a feeling it would be too complicated, I didn't realize it was
totally out of your mental reach. Is there any other misdirection
you might dive into besides common sense.

 

Kraven posted:
Kraven posted:
Recratican posted:
Kraven posted:Why not have an Anesthesiologist do the deed in death roll cases.It could take the guess work out of it.

I'm going to take a wild guess it's due to physicians and nurses taking an oath not to hurt anyone. Just a guess, mind you.

(Are those physicians and nurses that murder children everyday take that
oath not to hurt anyone. I think so, just a guess, mind you)

 

Seriously, a physician, no matter how he felt about capital punishment, would be in danger of losing his medical license if his name was revealed.

(Seriously, a person could be trained as an Anesthesiologist for that
reason working for the state without taking the oath, I know
it's complicated.)

 

Currently in Alabama, paramedics start the IV and wardens start the drip.

 

I had a feeling it would be too complicated, I didn't realize it was
totally out of your mental reach. Is there any other misdirection
you might dive into besides common sense.

 

So basically since you can't explain it, it means you have no concrete idea yourself. Is that for both points or just one?

peede coober 2 posted:
Kraven posted:
Basically it's self explanatory to an idiot, you not up to that level
yet can't handle a concrete idea laying face down on a sidewalk.

Shame on you. No need to insult people and call them names for their thoughts and opinions.

All you sanctimonious liberals insult and beat me up everyday
and I should be ashamed, thanks for showing your true colors. 
Kraven posted:
peede coober 2 posted:
Kraven posted:
Basically it's self explanatory to an idiot, you not up to that level
yet can't handle a concrete idea laying face down on a sidewalk.

Shame on you. No need to insult people and call them names for their thoughts and opinions.

All you sanctimonious liberals insult and beat me up everyday
and I should be ashamed, thanks for showing your true colors. 

Poor ConspiracyKrow. You pitful snowflake. You insulted me the first day I rejoined the forums and now you wanna cry about being insulted? What part of the 'Golden Rule' is above your understanding? People give you exactly what you dish out and you wanna whine about it. You must live a pitiful existence.

giftedamateur posted:

Not to mention all the lies the left tells about posters. That one showed it's true colors long ago.

Left, right, liberal, conservative, Democrat, Republican = you don't know what I am. Why do you insult people if they don't agree with you?

I want to make the world a better place. I don't want to be insulted or called names when I voice my opinions. I don't like to see others insulted for their opinions. If that makes me a horrible person = a liberal= then I guess I'm a liberal.

Lets talk about you. I'm fastinated by your attitude. You are an angry bully. They say bullies were bullied themselves. I'm truly sorry you have/had such a horrible life. You sound miserable. I hope your life gets better, it's too short to spend it being so bitter.

Golly, did you just lie? Where were you insulted? No, you don't want to make the world a better place. You want to toss out underhanded insults to the Conservatives posting here  while trying to act like butter wouldn't melt in your mouth.  Did you just lie again? Who have I bullied? I guess calling you on your attempt at bullying is your idea of being bullied. You're the one that needs to get a better life, and while you're at it you need new insult material. The stuff you're using is as old and worn out as you are. 

peede coober 2 posted:
giftedamateur posted:

Not to mention all the lies the left tells about posters. That one showed it's true colors long ago.

Left, right, liberal, conservative, Democrat, Republican = you don't know what I am. Why do you insult people if they don't agree with you?

I want to make the world a better place. I don't want to be insulted or called names when I voice my opinions. I don't like to see others insulted for their opinions. If that makes me a horrible person = a liberal= then I guess I'm a liberal.

Lets talk about you. I'm fastinated by your attitude. You are an angry bully. They say bullies were bullied themselves. I'm truly sorry you have/had such a horrible life. You sound miserable. I hope your life gets better, it's too short to spend it being so bitter.

 

Kraven posted:
peede coober 2 posted:
giftedamateur posted:

Not to mention all the lies the left tells about posters. That one showed it's true colors long ago.

Left, right, liberal, conservative, Democrat, Republican = you don't know what I am. Why do you insult people if they don't agree with you?

I want to make the world a better place. I don't want to be insulted or called names when I voice my opinions. I don't like to see others insulted for their opinions. If that makes me a horrible person = a liberal= then I guess I'm a liberal.

Lets talk about you. I'm fastinated by your attitude. You are an angry bully. They say bullies were bullied themselves. I'm truly sorry you have/had such a horrible life. You sound miserable. I hope your life gets better, it's too short to spend it being so bitter.

 

Now you'll be accused of insulting one of them. 

peede coober 2 posted:
giftedamateur posted:
giftedamateur posted:

Not to mention all the lies the left tells about posters. That one showed it's true colors long ago.

 

You said that before. I have no idea what you are talking about. 

If you have no idea what I'm talking about, why do you keep responding to something not even posted to you, and why your lying rant about you being insulted?  Call your doctor, you should get checked out. 

peede coober 2 posted:

Lying rant? 

I feel so sorry for some of you folks.

Think, monkey, think. Hey, I saw Sheldon say that on Big Bang Theory the other day. So that means I have something in common with at least one of you= we like watching that show. 

You lied. You said I insulted you, and you keep replying to a post to Kraven. I have no idea what Sheldon said, I don't watch it. Feel sorry for the ones that have to put up with you.

Every day, 28 people die as a result of drunk driving crashes on average. In 2010, 10,228 people died in drunk driving crashes – one every 52 minutes – and 345,000 were injured. In 2010, people killed in alcohol-impaired driving crashes accounted for nearly one-third (31%) of all traffic-related deaths.

 

INCIDENCE OF REPEAT OFFENDERS IN SELECTED STATES1

DRIVERS CONVICTED OF DWI

STATE

NO. DRIVERS CONVICTED OF DWI

NO. WITH PRIOR DWI CONVICTION

YEAR 2

PERCENT REPEAT DWI OFFENDERS3

Iowa

18,000

3,780

1992 (6 yrs)

21%

Louisiana

101,161

24,918

89-93 (5 yrs)

24%

Nebraska

146,619

38,547

65-94 (30 yrs)

26%

Wisconsin

169,390

52,073

84-88 (5 yrs)

31%

North Carolina

65,714

21,028

1988 (7 yrs)

32%

Ohio

637,678

211,280

80-93 (5 yrs)

33%

California

216,453

72,728

1991(7 yrs)

34%

New Mexico

16,184

7,637

1990 (30 yrs)

47%

DRIVERS ARRESTED FOR DWI

STATE

NO. DRIVERS ARRESTED FOR DWI

NO. WITH PRIOR DWI ARREST

YEAR 2

PERCENT REPEAT DWI OFFENDERS3

South Dakota

8,821

2,090

1993 (5 yrs)

24%

Colorado

99,848

26,335

89-91(5 yrs)

26%

Texas

352,372

125,941

87-90 (10 yrs)

36%

Minnesota

30,717

14,034

1993 (30 yrs)

46%

 

Well shut the front door

https://one.nhtsa.gov/people/o...ftech/1995/tt085.htm

I still believe a good strong stiff rope with sufficient height to drop the body and additional weight is good enough or say, five men, or women, each with a .308 caliber or 5.56 NATO round, two of them blanks and three of them live rounds aimed squarely at around mark located over the man's, or woman's heart.  These are not nice people and guilty of crimes that had no grace or compassion in them.  While I'm sure there are some few individuals that get as far as the execution chamber who are actually innocent I cannot believe that is many and hopefully if there is enough doubt that the individual may have committed the act then potentially final sentence can be postponed until such proof is found.  

 

Firing squads would have worked out well. Too bad they were stopped, maybe other states should consider it.

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The first bill proposing to eliminate the firing squad option was introduced in the Utah House of Representatives in January 1996.[4] In 2004, the legislature passed HB180, which removed the right of the condemned to choose the method of execution and left lethal injection as the only remaining option in the state.[5][6] The abolition of the firing squad was not retroactive; three inmates on death row at Utah State Prison who chose this method of execution before the end of February 2004 will be executed by firing squad under a grandfather clause.[6]Utah's most recent execution, that of 49-year-old Ronnie Lee Gardner on June 18, 2010, was the state's third execution by firing squad since the capital punishment moratorium was lifted, and the country's first sanctioned shooting in 14 years.[5] Legislation signed by Gov. Gary Herbert in March 2015 restores the firing squad as a legal method of execution, requiring its use if the state is unable to obtain the necessary lethal injection drugs within 30 days of a scheduled execution.[7][8]

Utah is the only state besides Nevada to have ever used the firing squad. Oklahoma is the only other state currently allowing firing squads, and solely in the event that lethal injectionnitrogen hypoxia and electrocution are all declared unconstitutional.

Executions in Utah are currently performed at the Utah State Prison in Draper, Utah.[9] Because the ethics standards of the American Medical Association forbid physician involvement in executions, other healthcare professionals including paramedics and nurses perform executions in Utah.[10] Paramedics and nurses, however, are also forbidden from participation in executions by their own professional organizations' ethics codes.[11][12][13] The prison protects the anonymity of professionals involved in executions, making it impossible for professional organizations to impose sanctions.[14]

Isn't it ironic how much time and effort is spent by Governments trying to come up with the most thoughtful, careful, less painful, humane way to execute someone who most likely gave very little thought to what pain they inflicted on their victims and the families and loved ones affected by their selfish, thoughtless decision.  

I do though realize that there are circumstances where someone gets caught up in circumstances and things happen as well as some innocent who wind up being convicted for something they didn't do but I seriously do believe that those are very few. 

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