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Hi to all my Forum Friends,

We all know that the rulings in favor of evicting God and Prayer from public schools comes from the erroneous actions of the Judiciary  Branch of our government doing what the constitution tells them they cannot do -- MAKE LAWS.   And, these erroneous "laws" enacted by Far Left Leaning Supreme Court Justices over the years are a big part of the reason our public schools are falling far behind those of many other nations in quality of education.

It seems that our schools spend far too much of their time fighting against God regarding homosexuality and prayer -- instead of teaching the academic classes needed to bring America up to the educational level of most other countries.

One non-profit organization is working hard to reverse this damage done by "law passing" Supreme Court Justices and the ACLU.  I urge everyone to support the work and efforts of the Alliance Defense Fund.

These excerpts are taken from the Alliance Defense Fund Facebook page:


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Alliance Defense Fund:

ACLU fright fest: previous legal settlement makes Tenn. school district needlessly jittery.

http://adf.am/tbidyl


“Christian public school teachers acting in their private capacities do not lose their constitutionally protected right to free speech,”  said ADF Senior Counsel David Cortman.

ACLU fright fest: previous legal settlement makes Tenn. school district needlessly jittery - Alliance www.alliancedefensefund.org

ADF letter to Cheatham County School District says no settlement can ban private religious activities of teachers.

 

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Alliance Defense Fund BREAKING:

Okla. school district silences ‘Kids for Christ’ club. District says before-school Christian club can no longer publicize activities, but other clubs can...

http://adf.am/rp2YQr

 

“A Christian organization should not be targeted for discrimination when it is simply seeking to publicize its voluntary meetings just  like other community groups do,” said ADF Litigation Staff Counsel Matt Sharp.

Okla. school district silences ‘Kids for Christ’ club, tells it to be quiet in the media - Alliance. www.alliancedefensefund.org

Alliance Defense Fund attorneys representing a community-led Christian club for students filed suit Friday against an Oklahoma  school district after it revoked the club’s ability to publicize its events as other community groups are allowed to do and discouraged  the club from promoting itself. . .


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Visit the Facebook page of the Alliance Defense Fund to read of other cases and situations in which they are involved.

We all have seen the methods used by the ACLU over the years regarding the school districts and God/Prayer in schools.  Their technique is very similar to that of the Mafia -- create so much fear in school administration that they cannot function.  Yes, fear!   The school districts know that the ACLU will drag them into court costing them time and money they cannot afford.  So, they cower in the corner -- afraid to take a stand for what is right.

And, our current federal government holds hands so closely with the ACLU that one gets the impression they are joined-at-the-hips  twins.

I encourage all Christian believers to stop cowering in the corner every time atheist, secularist, and other anti-God groups start  pushing.  Start PUSHing back!

PUSH - Pray Until Something Happens -- a formula which never fails!

Combine that with taking a stand for what YOU know is right -- and, we have a winner!

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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The ACLU is not about the business of "creating fear" on the part of public school authorities who are violating the constitution.  They ARE about the business of getting these theocrats to conduct their public school activities legally, without infringing on the religious rights of anyone. The ACLU's strong record of success in the courts of this land attests to the legitimacy of what they are doing. Since theocrats such as YOU, Bill, continue to cling emotionally to a flawed concept of the First Amendment, it is likely that we will continue to see, over and over, cases where government oversteps its constitutional bounds and gets deservedly slapped down for doing so.  You just can't hardly break an egg-sucking mule of his ingrained bad habits.

 

You say, "The school districts know that the ACLU will drag them into court costing them time and money they cannot afford." The real truth is that most of these school administrators know all along that they have been getting away with unconstitutional activity and that their activity has no chance of prevailing in court, but do not have the integrity to discontinue the practice voluntarily, lest they lose their elected positions owing to outrage by ignorant theocratic voters.    The ACLU's challenge gives them an "out."  After offering token resistance in the form of bold statements crafted for public consumption and appeasement, they can dodge the lawsuit and discontinue the unconstitutional activity, while blaming the bad ole ACLU.

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Originally Posted by Bill Gray:

Hi to all my Forum Friends,
I encourage all Christian believers to stop cowering in the corner every time atheist, secularist, and other anti-God groups start  pushing.  Start PUSHing back!
Bill


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I encourage all people on this forum to stop listening to Bill Gray when he's pushing his judgmental crap on us.

Push back against his type of Christianity.

Hi all,

 

Well, to sum up the responses so far -- we have one guy who thinks God is "unamerican crap."

 

We have another who believes Jesus is a Liar!

 

And, a third which believes America would be better off without God.

 

Now that we have heard from the "intellects (?)" -- let's hear from more members.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

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Groups such as the ADF are needed to protect students from erroneous interpretations of law which limit the free speech and religious liberty of individuals. Just as some governmental bodies can favor some religious group over another or religion over non religion the opposite is true.

 

What people don't understand sometimes is that our justice system is an adversarial system where litigants square off before the courts to determine how laws are to be interpreted. That is why we need groups such as the ADF but also the ACLU. That's why lawyers defend criminals even though they may know them to be guilty. Everyone is entitled to his/her day in court.

 

Strong advocacy of opposing views/interpretations is vital to our system of justice and always will be.

Originally Posted by Bill Gray:

Hi all,

 

Well, to sum up the responses so far -- we have one guy who thinks God is "unamerican crap."

 

We have another who believes Jesus is a Liar!

 

And, a third which believes America would be better off without God.

 

Now that we have heard from the "intellects (?)" -- let's hear from more members.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

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Bill, I used to think you had a reading comprehension problem.  Now I know that you too are just a Liar for Jesus.  I have never said that Jesus lies.  You know this, but like all Liars for Jesus, you have twisted the truth in order to promote your cultist belief, and to attack someone who doesn't share your ridiculous, nonsensical take on the Bible. 

 

Have another blissed day.  ©

Bill,

i too believe in Jesus Christ. I too was lost just as there are many lost in this world. But God has made it clear that his children would be persecuted and there is no doubt we will be. We cannot give up on others who currently do not share our beliefs. I too did not believe. Whether they will acknowledge it or not God has "spoken" his word to them either through the flesh or the spirit. They have to make their own decision as to what they will believe. As for who is lost and who isn't I wouldn't dare say. Only God knows. All we as Christians can do is live our lives as close to God as we can one day at a time. I love each and everyone on this forum even though I may not love what they do or do not believe. Who am I to condemn anyone? When I know in my heart the things that I have done or have not done and continue to do or not do. The only way I get by from day to day is through my faith in God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit. I do ask God for a special favor. I ask you God to put a special touch on the hearts and minds of the persons that read this post. Let them know without a doubt that you are there with them.

In your Holy name sweet Jesus I pray

Amen

Originally Posted by Gingee:

Bill,

i too believe in Jesus Christ. I too was lost just as there are many lost in this world. But God has made it clear that his children would be persecuted and there is no doubt we will be. We cannot give up on others who currently do not share our beliefs. I too did not believe. Whether they will acknowledge it or not God has "spoken" his word to them either through the flesh or the spirit. They have to make their own decision as to what they will believe. As for who is lost and who isn't I wouldn't dare say. Only God knows. All we as Christians can do is live our lives as close to God as we can one day at a time. I love each and everyone on this forum even though I may not love what they do or do not believe. Who am I to condemn anyone? When I know in my heart the things that I have done or have not done and continue to do or not do. The only way I get by from day to day is through my faith in God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit. I do ask God for a special favor. I ask you God to put a special touch on the hearts and minds of the persons that read this post. Let them know without a doubt that you are there with them.

In your Holy name sweet Jesus I pray

Amen

Well put and welcome to the forum Gingee.  I would only add a few verses from Scripture:

 

Matthew 5:11-16 (CEV)
{11} God will bless you when people insult you, mistreat you, and tell all kinds of evil lies about you because of me.
{12} Be happy and excited! You will have a great reward in heaven. People did these same things to the prophets who lived long ago.
{13} You are like salt for everyone on earth. But if salt no longer tastes like salt, how can it make food salty? All it is good for is to be thrown out and walked on.
{14} You are like light for the whole world. A city built on top of a hill cannot be hidden,
{15} and no one would light a lamp and put it under a clay pot. A lamp is placed on a lampstand, where it can give light to everyone in the house.
{16} Make your light shine, so that others will see the good that you do and will praise your Father in heaven.

 

John 15:18-21 (ASV)
{18} If the world hateth you, ye know that it hath hated me before it hated you.
{19} If ye were of the world, the world would love its own: but because ye are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
{20} Remember the word that I said unto you, A servant is not greater than his lord. If they persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they kept my word, they will keep yours also.
{21} But all these things will they do unto you for my name's sake, because they know not him that sent me.

 

as it was for the Apostles so will it be for those who take on Christ namesake:

 

1 Corinthians 4:10-16 (NLT)
{10} Our dedication to Christ makes us look like fools, but you claim to be so wise in Christ! We are weak, but you are so powerful! You are honored, but we are ridiculed.
{11} Even now we go hungry and thirsty, and we don’t have enough clothes to keep warm. We are often beaten and have no home.
{12} We work wearily with our own hands to earn our living. We bless those who curse us. We are patient with those who abuse us.
{13} We appeal gently when evil things are said about us. Yet we are treated like the world’s garbage, like everybody’s trash—right up to the present moment.
{14} I am not writing these things to shame you, but to warn you as my beloved children.
{15} For even if you had ten thousand others to teach you about Christ, you have only one spiritual father. For I became your father in Christ Jesus when I preached the Good News to you.
{16} So I urge you to imitate me.

 

Even up to the end days we are told to expect the same from the "world" that knows not Christ

 

Matthew 24:9 (NIV)
{9} "Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me.


There is nothing new nor should any Christian expect things to change as time goes on.

Galatians 4:29 (ASV)
{29} But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, so also it is now.

1 Thessalonians 3:2-4 (NIV)
{2} We sent Timothy, who is our brother and God's fellow worker in spreading the gospel of Christ, to strengthen and encourage you in your faith,
{3} so that no one would be unsettled by these trials. You know quite well that we were destined for them.
{4} In fact, when we were with you, we kept telling you that we would be persecuted. And it turned out that way, as you well know.


 Insult and Ridicule was common for believers and those who took up Christ cause as well as persecution and people attempting to keep Christ from being shared and taught:


1 Thessalonians 2:14-16 (NLT)
{14} And then, dear brothers and sisters, you suffered persecution from your own countrymen. In this way, you imitated the believers in God’s churches in Judea who, because of their belief in Christ Jesus, suffered from their own people, the Jews.
{15} For some of the Jews killed the prophets, and some even killed the Lord Jesus. Now they have persecuted us, too. They fail to please God and work against all humanity
{16} as they try to keep us from preaching the Good News of salvation to the Gentiles. By doing this, they continue to pile up their sins. But the anger of God has caught up with them at last.


It should be no surprise to anyone that forum members who share not our faith take exception to our being here and attempting to share our faith or celebrate our belief in Christ.  That hardly any post or topic which we seek to make in an attempt to discuss among ourselves things of common interest goes uncontested or without some form of harassment and personal insults account of our beliefs.  Those attacks and those insults though are nothing new to those who chose to follow Christ nor have they been new to God's people throughout history. 


Any Christian that seeks to not be ashamed of their faith and share it should expect the same contempt from those in here as they would get most any other place.  Christians are the representation of the manifestation of God in Jesus Christ and due to the sinful nature within those who know not Christ and live and dwell in the flesh they seek to war against that inner conflict but since they cannot silence it they reach out and strike out at that which represents God/Christ to them and that is the Christians.  They will claim what you believe has not effect upon them and they could care less but just watch the indignation, the offense they take, when you seek to freely express your own faith even in a forum that is set aside for such topics and discussions.  By their actions their intentions are usually revealed but scriptures, as listed above, warn and prepare Christians to expect such as a result for their belief and acceptance of Christ Gift.  It should therefore be worn and considered as a badge of honor when we are attacked and considered as such for know that we share in common the same as those that paved the way before us such as the Apostles, Disciples, and Christ Himself.  It is God's Holy Spirit which strengthens us.

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Originally Posted by Gingee:

Bill,

i too believe in Jesus Christ. I too was lost just as there are many lost in this world. But God has made it clear that his children would be persecuted and there is no doubt we will be. We cannot give up on others who currently do not share our beliefs. I too did not believe. Whether they will acknowledge it or not God has "spoken" his word to them either through the flesh or the spirit. They have to make their own decision as to what they will believe. As for who is lost and who isn't I wouldn't dare say. Only God knows. All we as Christians can do is live our lives as close to God as we can one day at a time. I love each and everyone on this forum even though I may not love what they do or do not believe. Who am I to condemn anyone? When I know in my heart the things that I have done or have not done and continue to do or not do. The only way I get by from day to day is through my faith in God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit. I do ask God for a special favor. I ask you God to put a special touch on the hearts and minds of the persons that read this post. Let them know without a doubt that you are there with them.

In your Holy name sweet Jesus I pray

Amen

Well put and welcome to the forum Gingee.  I would only add a few verses from Scripture:

 

Matthew 5:11-16 (CEV)
{11} God will bless you when people insult you, mistreat you, and tell all kinds of evil lies about you because of me.
{12} Be happy and excited! You will have a great reward in heaven. People did these same things to the prophets who lived long ago.
{13} You are like salt for everyone on earth. But if salt no longer tastes like salt, how can it make food salty? All it is good for is to be thrown out and walked on.
{14} You are like light for the whole world. A city built on top of a hill cannot be hidden,
{15} and no one would light a lamp and put it under a clay pot. A lamp is placed on a lampstand, where it can give light to everyone in the house.
{16} Make your light shine, so that others will see the good that you do and will praise your Father in heaven.

 

John 15:18-21 (ASV)
{18} If the world hateth you, ye know that it hath hated me before it hated you.
{19} If ye were of the world, the world would love its own: but because ye are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
{20} Remember the word that I said unto you, A servant is not greater than his lord. If they persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they kept my word, they will keep yours also.
{21} But all these things will they do unto you for my name's sake, because they know not him that sent me.

 

as it was for the Apostles so will it be for those who take on Christ namesake:

 

1 Corinthians 4:10-16 (NLT)
{10} Our dedication to Christ makes us look like fools, but you claim to be so wise in Christ! We are weak, but you are so powerful! You are honored, but we are ridiculed.
{11} Even now we go hungry and thirsty, and we don’t have enough clothes to keep warm. We are often beaten and have no home.
{12} We work wearily with our own hands to earn our living. We bless those who curse us. We are patient with those who abuse us.
{13} We appeal gently when evil things are said about us. Yet we are treated like the world’s garbage, like everybody’s trash—right up to the present moment.
{14} I am not writing these things to shame you, but to warn you as my beloved children.
{15} For even if you had ten thousand others to teach you about Christ, you have only one spiritual father. For I became your father in Christ Jesus when I preached the Good News to you.
{16} So I urge you to imitate me.

 

Even up to the end days we are told to expect the same from the "world" that knows not Christ

 

Matthew 24:9 (NIV)
{9} "Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me.


There is nothing new nor should any Christian expect things to change as time goes on.

Galatians 4:29 (ASV)
{29} But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, so also it is now.

1 Thessalonians 3:2-4 (NIV)
{2} We sent Timothy, who is our brother and God's fellow worker in spreading the gospel of Christ, to strengthen and encourage you in your faith,
{3} so that no one would be unsettled by these trials. You know quite well that we were destined for them.
{4} In fact, when we were with you, we kept telling you that we would be persecuted. And it turned out that way, as you well know.


 Insult and Ridicule was common for believers and those who took up Christ cause as well as persecution and people attempting to keep Christ from being shared and taught:


1 Thessalonians 2:14-16 (NLT)
{14} And then, dear brothers and sisters, you suffered persecution from your own countrymen. In this way, you imitated the believers in God’s churches in Judea who, because of their belief in Christ Jesus, suffered from their own people, the Jews.
{15} For some of the Jews killed the prophets, and some even killed the Lord Jesus. Now they have persecuted us, too. They fail to please God and work against all humanity
{16} as they try to keep us from preaching the Good News of salvation to the Gentiles. By doing this, they continue to pile up their sins. But the anger of God has caught up with them at last.


It should be no surprise to anyone that forum members who share not our faith take exception to our being here and attempting to share our faith or celebrate our belief in Christ.  That hardly any post or topic which we seek to make in an attempt to discuss among ourselves things of common interest goes uncontested or without some form of harassment and personal insults account of our beliefs.  Those attacks and those insults though are nothing new to those who chose to follow Christ nor have they been new to God's people throughout history. 


Any Christian that seeks to not be ashamed of their faith and share it should expect the same contempt from those in here as they would get most any other place.  Christians are the representation of the manifestation of God in Jesus Christ and due to the sinful nature within those who know not Christ and live and dwell in the flesh they seek to war against that inner conflict but since they cannot silence it they reach out and strike out at that which represents God/Christ to them and that is the Christians.  They will claim what you believe has not effect upon them and they could care less but just watch the indignation, the offense they take, when you seek to freely express your own faith even in a forum that is set aside for such topics and discussions.  By their actions their intentions are usually revealed but scriptures, as listed above, warn and prepare Christians to expect such as a result for their belief and acceptance of Christ Gift.  It should therefore be worn and considered as a badge of honor when we are attacked and considered as such for know that we share in common the same as those that paved the way before us such as the Apostles, Disciples, and Christ Himself.  It is God's Holy Spirit which strengthens us.

And, there seems to be no end to Bill's spewing of nonsense. At least he found a new convert to his "cause". She is as clueless as he.

Hi Gingee,

First, please allow me to add my "Welcome to the Religion Forum" to all the others who have welcomed you.

You tell me, "Bill, I, too, believe in Jesus Christ.  I, too, was lost just as there are many lost in this world.  But God has made it clear that his children would be persecuted and there is no doubt we will be."

That is so true.  Nowhere in the Bible are Christian believers told that we will be exempt form suffering, trials, and tribulations in this life.  As a matter of fact, we are promised those things will happen to us.

In Matthew 16:24, did Jesus Christ tell us, "Whoever follows Me will have great material wealth and a life of luxury and ease"?

No, in that Scripture verse, He tells His disciples, and us, "If anyone wishes to come after Me, he must deny himself, and take up his CROSS and follow Me."

And in Romans 5:1-5 the apostle Paul tells us,  "Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom also we have obtained our introduction by faith into this grace in which we stand; and we exult in hope of  the glory of God.  And not only this, but we also exult in our tribulations, knowing that tribulation brings about perseverance; and  perseverance, proven character; and proven character, hope; and hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been  poured out within our hearts through the Holy Spirit who was given to us."

Hope in Jesus Christ does not disappoint!

In 1 Peter 3:15-16 we read, "But sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts, always being ready to make a defense to everyone who asks you to give an account for the hope that is in you, yet with gentleness and reverence; and keep a good conscience so that in the  thing in which you are slandered, those who revile your good behavior in Christ will be put to shame."

What is that hope that is in Christian believers?  It is the knowledge that Jesus Christ will return to remove His church from the Tribulation and then, He will come again seven years later, His Second Coming, to establish His Millennial Kingdom upon earth.    That is the hope and His promise to all believers.

Yes, Gingee, all Christian believers will suffer in this world.  However, we have His promise that He has gone to prepare an eternal home for us -- and, according to John 14:1-3, He will come again to take us there -- the Rapture -- when He takes His church, His body of believers out of this world before the seven year Tribulation begins.

Gingee, you tell me, "We cannot give up on others who currently do not share our beliefs.  I too did not believe.  Whether they will acknowledge it or not God has "spoken" his word to them either through the flesh or the spirit.  They have to make their own decision as to what they will believe.  As for who is lost and who isn't I wouldn't dare say.  Only God knows."

Once again, you are absolutely right.  We are not to give up on non-believers.   When Jesus Christ told us, in Matthew 28:19-20, to  Go, Make disciples, Baptize them, Teach them -- and, in Acts 1:8 and Mark 16:15, that we should be His witnesses in all the world  -- He was not telling us to witness to believers.  That would be preaching to the choir.  No, He told us to be His witnesses to all the non-believers in the world.

My long time Friend, Pastor Freddy Cortez (Church of Hope, Laguna Hills CA) has this statement on their church About page ( http://www.churchofhopeontheweb.org/about ) -- "Our objective is to reach and teach as mandated in the Bible. For the lost, we  evangelizeFor the believer, we instruct using the Word of God."

That pretty well sums up the marching orders Jesus Christ left for all Christian believers.

Gingee, you tell me, "As for who is lost and who isn't I wouldn't dare say.  Only God knows."

It is true that we cannot really know another's heart and his/her relationship with Jesus Christ.   However, when we have a person who tells us that speaking about God is "un-American crap."  And, we have another who believes that all Christians are Liars For Jesus -- and another who believes America would be better off without God.  And we have folks like Deep, Uno, Jennifer, Dark, etc., who firmly, absolutely deny that God exists.

Gingee, in those cases I feel safe in saying that these folks are not saved and need to hear the Word of God.  Now, you and I know that most of them will fight tooth and nail to keep Christians from evangelizing, to keep the Word of God locked in a closet.  But, as you said, and I agree -- we do have firm instructions from Jesus Christ that we must witness to these folks -- for we can be pretty sure they are not yet saved.

Next, you tell me, "All we as Christians can do is live our lives as close to God as we can one day at a time."

Once we are saved, that is true -- regarding our salvation.   However, I believe you will agree with me that Jesus Christ does not want  us to be "couch potato Christians."   No, He wants us to Go, Make disciples, Baptize them, Teach them -- be His witnesses in all the world.   Now, that sounds to me like He wants us to get off our butts and get out there -- sharing His Word with the world.  He want us teaching the believers and evangelizing the non-believers; just as my Friend, Pastor Freddy Cortez tells us on their church web site.

Then you declare, "I love each and everyone on this forum, even though I may not love what they do or do not believe.  Who am I to condemn anyone?"

And, once again, I could not agree more.  I, too, love every single Forum member with a Christian love.  It is God's desire; therefore it is my desire -- that all come to faith in Jesus Christ (2 Peter 3:9).  Yet, we know that will not happen; that many folks will continue to deny God until it is too late for them to be saved, i.e., until they have breathed their last breath in this mortal body.  One they pass that threshold still denying God; they can never be saved.  There are no second chances after death.

You ask, "Who am I to condemn anyone?"

No one is asking your to condemn anyone.  Not God, not Jesus Christ, not the Bible -- and, most certainly not me.  However, if we do not tell folks about heaven AND hell; if we do not tell folks that God has given them "free will" and with that free gift from God, they MUST choose whether they will follow Him into heaven, or run from Him into hell -- if we do not tell them about this choice which only they can make, we are not being true to the calling Jesus Christ has given to all Christian believers.

If we do not tell the non-believer this truth; we are disobeying Jesus Christ.  And, if you will recall, the sin of Adam which brought condemnation upon all creation -- was the sin of disobedience to God.  Will you add to that sin of disobedience by refusing to follow the commands left to us by Jesus Christ?  Or, will you follow His command and evangelize the lost of the world?  The only way to honestly evangelize the lost -- is to make them aware of both heaven and hell -- and that they must choose which will be their eternal  home.

Gingee, you tell me, "When I know in my heart the things that I have done or have not done, and continue to do or not do.  The only way I get by from day to day is through my faith in God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit."

Amen to that -- we all sin every day.  That is why Christian believers are really only "forgiven sinners."   You and I, and all Christian believers, will continue to be sinners until the day we are raptured or the day we die.  We all have the sin nature inherited from Adam  -- and we will have this sin nature as long as we are in this mortal body.

But, as you say, praise God, by our faith in Jesus Christ -- with the help of the sustaining Holy Spirit within all believers -- we do get through each day and can look forward to that day when we will be with Him -- eternally.

Finally, you close with a wonderful prayer, "I do ask God for a special favor.  I ask you, God, to put a special touch on the hearts and minds of the persons that read this post.  Let them know without a doubt that you are there with them.  In your Holy name, sweet Jesus, I pray.  Amen"

Yes, every Christian believer on this Religion Forum -- member or reader only -- should be praying for the salvation of all of our non-believing Forum Friends.   There can be no better prayer than that.

Gingee, I pray that I have answered your questions and responded to your comments sufficiently.  I look forward to us having many more dialogues -- and that through our dialogues we can bring more of God's Word to all of our Forum Friends.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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