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Originally Posted by NashBama:

Lex, I don't consider it arguing. I'm not emotionally effected and I have nothing to gain.

My goal is to simply put the information out there for anyone else who might think the original post is credible.

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Nash, are you a Christian? I'm just curious, not trying to be rude. Of course, you have the right to refuse to answer & I have no problem with that.

Originally Posted by lexum:

In my opinion, and I think most will agree, it takes an idiot 

We are actually using you for entertainment on here. Do you sincerely think I give you any credit for being anything other than a fringe lunatic?

   We are gaming you darlin,. Wake up. LOL

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Most will agree that your opinion means nothing to anyone on this forum. Many people have stated that you're an idiot & you do nothing to dispute that claim.

 

WE? No, not WE. If anyone is being used for entertainment on here, that would be you. Have you not noticed you are not taken seriously on this forum?

 

Originally Posted by lexum:

In my opinion, and I think most will agree, it takes an idiot to think someone becomes mythological in 60 years.  All of a sudden? Best the world simply ignores that kind of BS. We are actually using you for entertainment on here. Do you sincerely think I give you any credit for being anything other than a fringe lunatic?

   We are gaming you darlin,. Wake up. LOL

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semi intentionally misquoted me, her the big liar.

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

I'm not a fan of what people do in the name of religion. That is not hating your jesus or your god that YOU believe exists. I don't believe they exist so there is no reason to "hate" them. Again, I have a problem with the things done "in their name." All the hate, discrimination, trying to deny the rights of others that don't believe or don't believe the way you want them too, or don't live the lifestyle you think they should.  Wanting the BS taught in schools, this stupid 6000 year old earth mess, wanting to indoctrinate children with it, that's another problem. Wanting our country governed the way christians think it should be is another. The list goes on and on. It's not a "choice" to believe he never existed. And for the LAST time, I posted there are some that say he existed but was only a human, no supernatural or mystical things associated with him at all. I can't "say" it any plainer, I don't believe in myths. None of them, but for some reason known only to you, you think I must. Well if it's a choice, and I HAVE to believe a myth, all of them will have to step it up and do a lot better than they have so far to get me to believe in and "choose" them. Google myths, then go to the J's.

 

You missed it.

 

One is not a myth.

we know what you did semi

  you've changed since you took up with yankee girl bestworking/jennifer

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well, we all know you've certainly not changed at all. once a troll, a stalker and a liar always a troll a stalker and a liar

add hypocrite to that list too cause you are one of the biggest we've seen.
Originally Posted by NashBama:
Originally Posted by Bestworking:

I'm not a fan of what people do in the name of religion. That is not hating your jesus or your god that YOU believe exists. I don't believe they exist so there is no reason to "hate" them. Again, I have a problem with the things done "in their name." All the hate, discrimination, trying to deny the rights of others that don't believe or don't believe the way you want them too, or don't live the lifestyle you think they should.  Wanting the BS taught in schools, this stupid 6000 year old earth mess, wanting to indoctrinate children with it, that's another problem. Wanting our country governed the way christians think it should be is another. The list goes on and on. It's not a "choice" to believe he never existed. And for the LAST time, I posted there are some that say he existed but was only a human, no supernatural or mystical things associated with him at all. I can't "say" it any plainer, I don't believe in myths. None of them, but for some reason known only to you, you think I must. Well if it's a choice, and I HAVE to believe a myth, all of them will have to step it up and do a lot better than they have so far to get me to believe in and "choose" them. Google myths, then go to the J's.

 

You missed it.

 

One is not a myth.

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One is not a myth is YOUR opinion. Not mine.

nash,

 

Let's stipulate that an eccentric rabbi named Jesus existed.

 

He was not the Jewish Messiah, that much is clear.  The Messiah was to be a great warrior or judge.  Jesus was neither in the Jewish community.

 

Jesus was a human sacrifice that stuck, only after decades of oral tradition and borrowed mythology.  If it weren't for the apologetics of Paul, there would be no Christianity today.  The Christians simply rolled a 7.  The essential premise of Christianity, that of redemption from the Original Sin of Adam and Eve, is demonstrably false.

 

Now is the time to abandon the harsh, hateful, vicious God of Abraham and get on with progressing as citizens of a small planet orbiting an innocuous star.  I say this to Christians, Jews, and Muslims alike.  It's all BS, and we're here to say so.

 

It's that simple.

 

DF

Originally Posted by Not Shallow Not Slim:

nash,

 

Let's stipulate that an eccentric rabbi named Jesus existed.

 

He was not the Jewish Messiah, that much is clear.  The Messiah was to be a great warrior or judge.  Jesus was neither in the Jewish community.

 

Jesus was a human sacrifice that stuck, only after decades of oral tradition and borrowed mythology.  If it weren't for the apologetics of Paul, there would be no Christianity today.  The Christians simply rolled a 7.  The essential premise of Christianity, that of redemption from the Original Sin of Adam and Eve, is demonstrably false.

 

Now is the time to abandon the harsh, hateful, vicious God of Abraham and get on with progressing as citizens of a small planet orbiting an innocuous star.  I say this to Christians, Jews, and Muslims alike.  It's all BS, and we're here to say so.

 

It's that simple.

 

DF

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A few things.

 

Messiah doesn't mean great warrior or judge. It means king. The word is derived from the Hebrew word for "anointed", which references the Jewish tradition of anointing kings with oil.

 

No, Jews do not accept Jesus as the promised Messiah. That part we agree on.

 

Christianity did not "stick" decades after the crucifixion. It began three days after. Basic knowledge of human nature shows that something very significant happened because suddenly everything changed.

 

Logically, Christianity should have died out almost immediately. No one wants to be tortured and die for a recycled myth. Besides, you missed a very key point. The Gospels include names of people, places, and events. They were written in the region where this all took place. So it would be very easy for the people of the time to tell if they were lies or fiction. The opposite happened, people drastically changed their beliefs despite threat of personal hardship, pain, and death. Why?

 

The fact that Christianity spread so rapidly when it should have been eliminated by the Romans very early on is a sign that something very significant happened. So what was it?

Mes·si·ah <script type="text/javascript"></script> (m-s)

n.
1. also Mes·si·as (m-ss) The anticipated savior of the Jews.
2. also Messias Christianity Jesus.
3. messiah One who is anticipated as, regarded as, or professes to be a savior or liberator.
 
Messiah [mɪˈsaɪə]
n
1. (Non-Christian Religions / Judaism) Judaism the awaited redeemer of the Jews, to be sent by God to free them
2. (Christian Religious Writings / Theology) Jesus Christ, when regarded in this role
3.(Government, Politics & Diplomacy) an exceptional or hoped for liberator of a country or people
[from Old French Messie, ultimately from Hebrew māshīach anointed]
Originally Posted by lexum:

        Thank God for marijuana volkskov, it keeps you otherwise occupied rather than propagating.





is that all you got? anytime someone calls you out on your past or your many identities all you got is that they smoke marijauna? sad. just like you you old lonely troll.
Originally Posted by Bestworking:

Mes·si·ah <script type="text/javascript"></script> (m-s)

n.
1. also Mes·si·as (m-ss) The anticipated savior of the Jews.
2. also Messias Christianity Jesus.
3. messiah One who is anticipated as, regarded as, or professes to be a savior or liberator.
 
Messiah [mɪˈsaɪə]
n
1. (Non-Christian Religions / Judaism) Judaism the awaited redeemer of the Jews, to be sent by God to free them
2. (Christian Religious Writings / Theology) Jesus Christ, when regarded in this role
3.(Government, Politics & Diplomacy) an exceptional or hoped for liberator of a country or people
[from Old French Messie, ultimately from Hebrew māshīach anointed]

 

You missed the very last part of the definition.

 

from Aramaic <tt>mi</tt>, the anointed one (from <tt>ma</tt>, to anoint) or Hebrew <tt>mîa</tt>,anointed (from <tt>ma</tt>, to anoint); see <tt>m</tt> in Semitic roots.

Originally Posted by Not Shallow Not Slim:

nash,

 

Let's stipulate that an eccentric rabbi named Jesus existed.

 

He was not the Jewish Messiah, that much is clear.  The Messiah was to be a great warrior or judge.  Jesus was neither in the Jewish community.

 

Jesus was a human sacrifice that stuck, only after decades of oral tradition and borrowed mythology.  If it weren't for the apologetics of Paul, there would be no Christianity today.  The Christians simply rolled a 7.  The essential premise of Christianity, that of redemption from the Original Sin of Adam and Eve, is demonstrably false.

 

Now is the time to abandon the harsh, hateful, vicious God of Abraham and get on with progressing as citizens of a small planet orbiting an innocuous star.  I say this to Christians, Jews, and Muslims alike.  It's all BS, and we're here to say so.

 

It's that simple.

 

DF

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Quote by DF:

“Jesus was a human sacrifice that stuck, only after decades of oral tradition and borrowed mythology. If it weren't for the apologetics of Paul, there would be no Christianity today. The Christians simply rolled a 7.”

Nash

You are dealing with a child here with his lip dragging the floor. To claim Jesus became mythological only  a few years after his death is childish. How stupid.

    This Horus claim is silly; it is hand waved by heretics to resemble Jesus not the other way around.

DF=FAIL

   [QUOTE BY df]  “

The essential premise of Christianity, that of redemption from the Original Sin of Adam and Eve, is demonstrably false.”

   DF you make the claim this is demonstrably false. Prove yourself not to be a liar.

BTW DF I rue the day I introduced you to the word “demonstrable” a couple of years ago. You have worn it out on these forums. You never seem to amaze.

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