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President Donald Trump holds a chart as he talks with reporters after receiving a briefing on Hurricane Dorian in the Oval Office of the White House, Wednesday, Sept. 4, 2019, in Washington. (AP Photo/Evan Vucci)

 

NEW YORK (AP) — President Donald Trump doesn’t make mistakes. At least according to him.

Trump’s relentless justifications of his erroneous warnings that Hurricane Dorian was threatening Alabama on Sunday, which created days of ridicule and skepticism, are just the latest example of the president’s lifelong reluctance to admit an error, no matter how innocuous.

His fervent, dayslong pushback has displayed not only his prolonged focus on a personal spat but his willingness, notably again late on Thursday, to deploy government staff and resources to justify an inaccurate claim. Presidential proclamations can move markets, rattle world capitals and, in this case, unnecessarily alarm the residents of a state. Trump’s relationship with the truth and accountability threatened to, yet again, diminish the weight of any president’s words.

 

“Great presidents admit when they’ve screwed up, they fix it, and they move on,” said presidential historian Jon Meacham. “Right now, it is a mistake about a hurricane hitting a state. But it can also be a far bigger deal and cost people lives and help create a climate where people can’t trust the government.”

This was far from the first time Trump has refused to admit a mistake. Examples range from the harmless, like his assertion that he had the largest inauguration crowd in history, to the more serious, like his claim of widespread voter fraud in 2016 that led to the establishment of an election commission to try and back up his claim.

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The White House on Thursday night also released a statement from Rear Adm. Peter J. Brown, the president’s homeland security and counterterrorism adviser, who said he briefed the president on Sunday about the storm, including “possible storm impacts well outside the official forecast cone.”

“The president’s comments were based on that morning’s Hurricane Dorian briefing, which included the possibility of tropical storm force winds in southeastern Alabama,” Brown said.

President Trump handed out this screenshot of an NBC News segment showing Alabama possibly being affected by Dorian. [John Roberts/Fox News)

 

The president on Thursday afternoon invited Fox News into the Oval Office to argue that forecasts for Dorian last week had Alabama in the warning cone and provide graphics, like this one from the National Hurricane Center. [John Roberts/Fox News)

 

So, take a look at the map in my original post.  Notice it is dated August 29 2019, Thursday, the day indicated as the first plot of the hurricane.  Now, what did Adm Brown say about the 3 Sept. briefing?  "The president’s comments were based on that morning’s Hurricane Dorian briefing..."  Trump sitting there holding a 5 day old forecast map.  Why didn't he ask for a new forecast map?  Is he not the smartest president ever?  He should have known a hurricane forecast 5 days old may not be accurate.   He should have immediately asked for an updated forecast map.  And he hand drew in a cute little trumpcast covering part of Alabama with his trusty sharpy. 

Here is the storm's projected track as of 5:00am Eastern time, September 3rd:

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT  02/0900Z 26.6N  78.2W  145 KT 165 MPH
 12H  02/1800Z 26.7N  78.7W  140 KT 160 MPH
 24H  03/0600Z 26.9N  79.0W  130 KT 150 MPH
 36H  03/1800Z 27.6N  79.5W  120 KT 140 MPH
 48H  04/0600Z 28.7N  80.0W  110 KT 125 MPH
 72H  05/0600Z 31.3N  79.8W  100 KT 115 MPH
 96H  06/0600Z 34.5N  76.5W   85 KT 100 MPH
120H  07/0600Z 38.5N  70.0W   75 KT  85 MPH

If you plot these on a map, the hurricane turns north before it strikes Florida and proceeds up the east coast. 

Adm. Brown, being a Navy man, knows better than what is being portrayed by the White House.  But, he is probably just following order from Trump to coverup his gaff.

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A review:

HURRICANE DORIAN

TRUMP: “In addition to Florida - South Carolina, North Carolina, Georgia, and Alabama, will most likely be hit (much) harder than anticipated.” — tweet Sunday.

TRUMP: “The original course was dead into Florida. Now it seems to be going up toward South Carolina, toward North Carolina. Georgia’s going to be hit. Alabama’s going to get a piece of it, it looks like.” — remarks to reporters Sunday.

THE FACTS: Trump goes astray in warning of trouble for Alabama, which is expected to be spared. As of Sunday, the National Hurricane Center forecast Dorian to be 40 to 50 miles (64 to 80 kilometers) off the Florida coast on Tuesday and Wednesday, with hurricane-force wind speeds extending about 35 miles (56 kilometers) to the west.

“Alabama will NOT see any impacts from #Dorian,” tweeted the National Weather Service in Birmingham, Alabama. “We repeat, no impacts from Hurricane #Dorian will be felt across Alabama. The system will remain too far east.”

Few, if any, meteorologists put Alabama in its path.

Asked if Trump had been briefed about the impact to Alabama, Christopher Vaccaro, a spokesman for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, wrote in an email: “The current forecast path of Dorian does not include Alabama.”

TRUMP: “I’m not sure that I’ve ever even heard of a category 5. I knew it existed and I’ve seen some category 4′s. You don’t even see them that much. But a category 5 is something that I don’t know that I’ve ever even heard the term other than I know it’s there.” — remarks Sunday at FEMA headquarters.

 

THE FACTS: In his third hurricane season as president, Trump has had plenty of exposure to category 5 storms.

He made the same claim two years ago, saying he wasn’t aware of category 5 storms until Hurricane Irma. “In Florida, you got hit with the strongest winds ever recorded. It actually hit the Keys with a_it was a Category 5. I never even knew a Category 5 existed,” Trump said in September 2017.

Since then, he’s repeatedly marveled about the size of the storms — and by extension, his administration’s response to it — including category 5 hurricanes Irma and Maria in 2017, Michael in 2018 and now Dorian.

Having four category 5 hurricanes in three years is actually more than any other president in history. George W. Bush had eight such hurricanes in eight years. Barack Obama, Bill Clinton and Ronald Reagan only had one during their two terms in office, while George H.W. Bush had two in four years and Carter had three in four years.

You know when everyone is against you you start to fight it now matter any cost. Yes the storm was forecast to possibly impact AL and the weather people missed the forecast by a mile in the beginning.  I do not see any post about CNN deleting Alabama from the United States.  If you disagree with my first statement it's your rite but show me a favorable new clip from CNN, MSNBC etc. about President Trump.  Heck they only refer to the President as Trump not President Trump.  No one can honestly say President Trump has not done one Good thing as President. 

Trump could cure cancer and the left would die before they'd allow him to help them. They are that eaten up with hatred. No one on the left ever seemed to have a problem with Trump before he beat Hillary. They did business with him...appeared on his shows...went to his parties and events...were his best pals...(Hillary and Bill)...and were Ivanka's supporters and best friends (Chelsea). He didn't change...they did...again...after he put a monkey wrench in their plans to continue to destroy our country. It's sickening to see and hear them now.

It is a sad day when out president cannot admit he may have been given inaccurate information. Instead he doubles down that what he said is right, even after the meteorologist's have informed him of the error. I don't know if he was misinformed or not. I see his support  dwindling every day. 

 He is not fit for the job, he seems to do good on Wall Street with money, but he sure fails when something like this is going on. 

unclegus posted:
Jutu posted:

Trump could cure cancer and the left would die before they'd allow him to help them. They are that eaten up with hatred. No one on the left ever seemed to have a problem with Trump before he beat Hillary. They did business with him...appeared on his shows...went to his parties and events...were his best pals...(Hillary and Bill)...and were Ivanka's supporters and best friends (Chelsea). He didn't change...they did...again...after he put a monkey wrench in their plans to continue to destroy our country. It's sickening to see and hear them now.

I have not liked trump long before he ever talked about running for president.

I will merit a person for what they are and he has proven himself time after time. 

 

The country has never been in better shape from top to bottom,
has any of you snowflake crybabies not given him a moments credit ?
 No, and if you like it or not Obama was a complete failure, we put up
with eight years of treason so do you think you could handle a boat load
of success, it may not last long but you people have no idea what you will
be in for.

 

Jack Hammer posted:
The country has never been in better shape from top to bottom,
has any of you snowflake crybabies not given him a moments credit ?
 No, and if you like it or not Obama was a complete failure, we put up
with eight years of treason so do you think you could handle a boat load
of success, it may not last long but you people have no idea what you will
be in for.

 

last week you were victims.  this week you're carrying trumps water.  make your mind up.

unclegus posted:

It is a sad day when out president cannot admit he may have been given inaccurate information. Instead he doubles down that what he said is right, even after the meteorologist's have informed him of the error. I don't know if he was misinformed or not. I see his support  dwindling every day. 

 He is not fit for the job, he seems to do good on Wall Street with money, but he sure fails when something like this is going on. 

Get ready for 6 more years!  All the democrats are running so far left that even some of my democrat friends are considering jumping ship.  All they campaign on is free everything, free everything for illegals, open borders, full support the green new deal and gun control.  If you think most everyday Americans are for the platform your candidates are running under you are out of touch.

HIFLYER2 posted:
unclegus posted:

It is a sad day when out president cannot admit he may have been given inaccurate information. Instead he doubles down that what he said is right, even after the meteorologist's have informed him of the error. I don't know if he was misinformed or not. I see his support  dwindling every day. 

 He is not fit for the job, he seems to do good on Wall Street with money, but he sure fails when something like this is going on. 

Get ready for 6 more years!  All the democrats are running so far left that even some of my democrat friends are considering jumping ship.  All they campaign on is free everything, free everything for illegals, open borders, full support the green new deal and gun control.  If you think most everyday Americans are for the platform your candidates are running under you are out of touch.

Sure, Jan. Illegals don't qualify for benefits.  Open borders? Are we building walls around every state now? Green new deal, ohhh scary. Gun Control means different things to different people.  I don't have any candidates. I'm just an average everyday American who is tired of the  nonsense you weirdos spread Mr. womb being.

Naio posted:
HIFLYER2 posted:
unclegus posted:

It is a sad day when out president cannot admit he may have been given inaccurate information. Instead he doubles down that what he said is right, even after the meteorologist's have informed him of the error. I don't know if he was misinformed or not. I see his support  dwindling every day. 

 He is not fit for the job, he seems to do good on Wall Street with money, but he sure fails when something like this is going on. 

Get ready for 6 more years!  All the democrats are running so far left that even some of my democrat friends are considering jumping ship.  All they campaign on is free everything, free everything for illegals, open borders, full support the green new deal and gun control.  If you think most everyday Americans are for the platform your candidates are running under you are out of touch.

Sure, Jan. Illegals don't qualify for benefits.  Open borders? Are we building walls around every state now? Green new deal, ohhh scary. Gun Control means different things to different people.  I don't have any candidates. I'm just an average everyday American who is tired of the  nonsense you weirdos spread Mr. womb being.

Your idiots running want to change the laws that will extend medical and benefits to illegals and now all their kids are on welfare!! The green new deal would kill the economy!  Yes I do think that after a certain point abortion is murder!  Sorry you did not know the one of the definitions of womb or being!  Like I said get ready for 6 more years!!!

Naio posted:
Jack Hammer posted:
The country has never been in better shape from top to bottom,
has any of you snowflake crybabies not given him a moments credit ?
 No, and if you like it or not Obama was a complete failure, we put up
with eight years of treason so do you think you could handle a boat load
of success, it may not last long but you people have no idea what you will
be in for.

 

last week you were victims.  this week you're carrying trumps water.  make your mind up.

That's in the top 5 of your most stupidest posts, in the top 100 that didn't
make much sense anyway.
HIFLYER2 posted:
Naio posted:
HIFLYER2 posted:
unclegus posted:

It is a sad day when out president cannot admit he may have been given inaccurate information. Instead he doubles down that what he said is right, even after the meteorologist's have informed him of the error. I don't know if he was misinformed or not. I see his support  dwindling every day. 

 He is not fit for the job, he seems to do good on Wall Street with money, but he sure fails when something like this is going on. 

Get ready for 6 more years!  All the democrats are running so far left that even some of my democrat friends are considering jumping ship.  All they campaign on is free everything, free everything for illegals, open borders, full support the green new deal and gun control.  If you think most everyday Americans are for the platform your candidates are running under you are out of touch.

Sure, Jan. Illegals don't qualify for benefits.  Open borders? Are we building walls around every state now? Green new deal, ohhh scary. Gun Control means different things to different people.  I don't have any candidates. I'm just an average everyday American who is tired of the  nonsense you weirdos spread Mr. womb being.

Your idiots running want to change the laws that will extend medical and benefits to illegals and now all their kids are on welfare!! The green new deal would kill the economy!  Yes I do think that after a certain point abortion is murder!  Sorry you did not know the one of the definitions of womb or being!  Like I said get ready for 6 more years!!!

don't get butthurt friend. do you know how democracy works? I can vote for whomever I please regardless of party.  what do you think should happen to employers that hire illegal immigrants? where is the republican solution to immigration reform. Oh wait. trump blew it up because of his wall. where is your source that the green new deal would kill the economy? remember, we live in a democracy. It would need republican support. Six more years? some of you have whined about obama for ten. 

Jack Hammer posted:
Naio posted:
Jack Hammer posted:
The country has never been in better shape from top to bottom,
has any of you snowflake crybabies not given him a moments credit ?
 No, and if you like it or not Obama was a complete failure, we put up
with eight years of treason so do you think you could handle a boat load
of success, it may not last long but you people have no idea what you will
be in for.

 

last week you were victims.  this week you're carrying trumps water.  make your mind up.

That's in the top 5 of your most stupidest posts, in the top 100 that didn't
make much sense anyway.

You have me beat by a longshot.  Still my D game is better than your A game.

I've given trump credit for something. Now prove the rest of that garbage you posted.

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