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I read the article. I kept waiting for the part where they proved global warming was a hoax....by the time I got to the end I realized that you are either illiterate or have no reading comprehension. It says no such thing. 

 

Science is a beautiful thing, but you have to have a minimum of intelligence to understand it. Captain, that makes it hard for you to try and join in on science discussions. Sit down and shut up until some calls on you.

Originally Posted by Jankinonya:

I read the article. I kept waiting for the part where they proved global warming was a hoax....by the time I got to the end I realized that you are either illiterate or have no reading comprehension. It says no such thing. 

 

Science is a beautiful thing, but you have to have a minimum of intelligence to understand it. Captain, that makes it hard for you to try and join in on science discussions. Sit down and shut up until some calls on you.

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Jank,

 

The melting of the ice sheet was one of the phenomena that was supposed to prove global warming.  Warmists attempted to deny the existence of the little ice age.  Increases in global warming ceased about 16 years ago. Recently, warmists suggested new warming was absorbed by the oceans.  However, the oceans haven't experience anything near the rise to prove such an absorption.  On another thread in this forum, I demonstrated how warmists used a graph to draw an alarmist's view the oceans' rise over the last few decades, when the rise was steady state for the last 6.000 years.

 

Science involves principle. However, the above violates every scientific principle since Galileo.

Last edited by direstraits
Originally Posted by jtdavis:

What is the average temperatures now and thirty years ago?  Day, night, northern hemisphere and southern hemisphere, Europe, Asia, Americas.  

Get the actual numbers and make a chart.

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JT,

 

This is your response to almost all articles when presented with evidence warming has ended, or the evidence of warming is wrong, as in this thread.  Its become a mantra,rather than a rational response.  As warming ended about 16 years ago, temperatures would still be warmer than 30 years ago.  Its the results and cause that are in contention. 

 

Dire, post the numbers that you always maintain which supports you stance that global warming stopped thirty years age. I know why you don't post them, it's because it would blow your argument out of the water.  It's warmer than it  was thirty years ago.

I'm not saying why it is, I'm saying it is warmer.  Look up cooling degree days and heating degree days, make a chart, read the numbers.

JT, where's your proof of your claims? Why do you always say, "this and this is true, someone told me, I read it, I know", and all that bull, but when you are shown other's proof, you demand more? Good gosh man, if you really wanted the truth you'd do some research. IF you can log on and get to this site and post, read all those emails where you claim people "tell you" things, you should be able to do a little simple researching.

Dire said global warming stopped 30 years ago but it is still getting warmer.

I'm saying the temperatures are getting warmer each year.  The heating degree days and cooling degree days numbers I have referred to comes from NOAH weather data.  The heating and cooling degree days are based on either 70 or 72 degrees.  An average temperature of one degree above for 24 hours is one cooling degree day, one degree below for 24 hours is one heating degree day.  Make a chart for the last 30 years.  There are spikes, but a general warming trend is shown.

My own observation is, it don't get as hot during a summer day, maybe 3 to 5 degrees, it stays warmer at night by 10 degrees or so.  I know it dosen't get as cold in the winter.

Originally Posted by jtdavis:

Dire said global warming stopped 30 years ago but it is still getting warmer.

I'm saying the temperatures are getting warmer each year.  The heating degree days and cooling degree days numbers I have referred to comes from NOAH weather data.  The heating and cooling degree days are based on either 70 or 72 degrees.  An average temperature of one degree above for 24 hours is one cooling degree day, one degree below for 24 hours is one heating degree day.  Make a chart for the last 30 years.  There are spikes, but a general warming trend is shown.

My own observation is, it don't get as hot during a summer day, maybe 3 to 5 degrees, it stays warmer at night by 10 degrees or so.  I know it dosen't get as cold in the winter.

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JT, you are not the red queen -- you saying it doesn't make it so.  I stated, "As warming ended about 16 years ago, temperatures would still be warmer than 30 years ago."  I don't know if its reading comprehension or determining what follows after an action is your problem. If, 30 years or so ago, the global temperature increased.  Then, the rise ceased, the heat from the original temperature might still remain.  However, there was no steady rise in global temperature for the last 16 years.  Warmists have attempted to explain that the rise is hidden in oceans.  However, they can't find a corresponding rise in the seas' temperatures.

 

Originally Posted by Stanky:
Jt, Dire didn't say warming stopped 30 years ago; he said 16 years:

As warming ended about 16 years ago, temperatures would still be warmer than 30 years ago.  Its the results and cause that are in contention. -Dire

And why just 30 years?
http://www.longrangeweather.co...bal_temperatures.htm
http://www.longrangeweather.com/images/gtemps.jpg

There is a lot wrong with that chart. I seriously doubt its credibility and suspect that it has little to zero scientific evidence to back up its claims.


OK. Global warming stopped 30 years ago.  You and I both say it is still getting warmer.  

 

I don't know if its reading comprehension or determining what follows after an action is your problem. If, 30 years or so ago, the global temperature increased.  Then, the rise ceased, the heat from the original temperature might still remain.  However, there was no steady rise in global temperature for the last 16 years.

 

I looked at the chart, I know Harris and Mann are known in the climatology and meteorology field.  I also know if you get the actual heating and cooling degree day numbers, it shows a trend toward warming up.

 

 

You doubt believers in man-made global warming? I too doubted their future prognostications.

 

We, Cliff Harris and Randy Mann, believe that the warming and even the cooling of global temperatures are the result of long-term climatic cycles, solar activity, sea-surface temperature patterns and more. However, Mankind’s activities of the burning of fossil fuels, massive deforestations, the replacing of grassy surfaces with asphalt and concrete, the ‘Urban Heat Island Effect,’ are making conditions ‘worse’ and this will ultimately enhance the Earth’s warming process down the meteorological roadway in the next several decades.

http://www.longrangeweather.co...bal_temperatures.htm

 

I suspect that you only agree with the plant food part of the equation.

Originally Posted by jtdavis:

OK. Global warming stopped 30 years ago.  You and I both say it is still getting warmer.  

 

I don't know if its reading comprehension or determining what follows after an action is your problem. If, 30 years or so ago, the global temperature increased.  Then, the rise ceased, the heat from the original temperature might still remain.  However, there was no steady rise in global temperature for the last 16 years.

 

I looked at the chart, I know Harris and Mann are known in the climatology and meteorology field.  I also know if you get the actual heating and cooling degree day numbers, it shows a trend toward warming up.

 

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Can not you read plain English! I stated warming ended about 16 years ago.

 

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