Andre Smith suspended for Sugar Bowl

Team rules, more like extremely low grades.

They are saying it's due to contact with a Agent.

It is all speculation right now. Saban hasnt said yet why Andre was sent home. Bad situation but gotta stand behind Saban. It had to be a tough decision. If it were grades, he wouldnt had made the trip,..... it is possible it was a sports agent, but what i heard was an incident in NOLA. Thus sent home. Dont ya love rumors?

There have been many players that have played bowl games with failing grades. This would not be the first time.

most major news outlets are reporting that it was improper dealings with an agent, for Bama's sake let hope that if it is the case, that it happened sometime between now and the SEC CG, other wise, the university could get in trouble if he played in a game. And with just barely being removed from probation, it could be a major hit.

Thank goodness it is a team that plays and not a single player. Alabama has a lot of good players. And they will win the Sugar Bowl (at least that is my prediction).

Thankfully the coach is sticking to the rules. He needs everyone's support. Even from us Auburn fans! As for the Sugar Bowl, I only have three words: Roll Tide Roll

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Originally posted by flotown79:
There have been many players that have played bowl games with failing grades. This would not be the first time.

Thats exactly right!
Im curious to know like everyone else, but knowing Saban, he may not come right out with all out details.
And man, we needed him on that line!

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Originally posted by hayssco:
most major news outlets are reporting that it was improper dealings with an agent, for Bama's sake let hope that if it is the case, that it happened sometime between now and the SEC CG, other wise, the university could get in trouble if he played in a game. And with just barely being removed from probation, it could be a major hit.

Very true,...... i just talked to a few people...... it does look like an agent,... and possible family members involved. From this standpoint it all depends on when it happened. If indeed it did.

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Originally posted by OriginalBama:

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Originally posted by hayssco:
most major news outlets are reporting that it was improper dealings with an agent, for Bama's sake let hope that if it is the case, that it happened sometime between now and the SEC CG, other wise, the university could get in trouble if he played in a game. And with just barely being removed from probation, it could be a major hit.

Very true,...... i just talked to a few people...... it does look like an agent,... and possible family members involved. From this standpoint it all depends on when it happened. If indeed it did.

And what if it didn't!
This poor guy would just be getting the wrong end of the stick! Gosh I HATE this! It will have to "set the tone" for a very emotional game for these guys.
All I can say is.......ROLL TIDE BABY!

It is what it is,...... Saban handled it the right way,.... and from team members responses, they are too. Question,...... Did The state of Alabama not pass a law making it illegal for an agent to talk to amateur athletes?

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Originally posted by OriginalBama:
Did The state of Alabama not pass a law making it illegal for an agent to talk to amateur athletes?

the UAAA
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louisiana passed the same thing...but one of the sections in the alabama bill states "An athlete agent may not intentionally do any of the following: (1) Initiate contact with a student-athlete unless registered under this chapter." so it doesn't ban them...they just have to be certified. but then again, if the athlete (or parent) contacts the agent, then that law doesn't apply.

What to say? Oh, how about
The love of money is the root of all evil.
So I say look for the money connection.

I am not an Alabama fan, but I thoroughly enjoy Saban. He is a great coach who gets the most of his kids off and on the field. He's a great disciplinarian and should be a model coach for many other football programs across the nation.

Saban is a good coach. You have to have discipline on the team. If the guy broke the rules, he got what he deserved.

OK what if you were say 20 or 21 years old or so. If someone hung a hook baited with 50 mill in front of you, would you bite? I would without a doubt. If this is viewed "wrong" by the law I think the Agents should be penalized alot harder than the kids. But he will get a PILE of money, enough for several families to retire on, the agent will make a pile, the team and fans are the ones that loose. But I still can't blame the kid or call it a "bad" choice. JM2C

are you nuts it is not the agents fault. That is their job, so if someone came to your job and told you hey if you do any work from this time to this time you will be fined or serve jail time (no they wouldn't) but anyways he did the same thing Chris Samuels did and Antiono Langhum did and you see where that got bama once a cheater always a cheater

Looks like A. Smith became the twelvth man for the Utah Utes...as they turned Bama every which way but loose.

31 Utah

17 Alabama

It really wasn't that close.

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are you nuts it is not the agents fault. That is their job, so if someone came to your job and told you hey if you do any work from this time to this time you will be fined or serve jail time

OK it's ALMOST illegal and depending on the specific circumstances ( we aren't privy to) probably WAS considering he didn't play.

Agent Laws

From what I've read and understand the two sports agents involved face possible criminal charges and the law also allows the university to file a civil suit against them. I wonder if they can also file a civil suit against Andre Smith fo any lost revenues due to the Sugar Bowl loss? It would set a great example to take several million dollars of his NFL contract as a punishment and also a deterrant against future athletes who break the NCAA rules trying to cut a better deal with a sports agent. This is the exact thing that got Alabama in trouble with the NCAA a few years ago that we are only now beginning to recover from. How much did that cost the University? Some say it would send the wrong message to recruits but I think it waould say if you play ball at Alabama you better follow the rules and not be dealing behind closed doors.

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Originally posted by MentalFloss:
OK what if you were say 20 or 21 years old or so. If someone hung a hook baited with 50 mill in front of you, would you bite? I would without a doubt. If this is viewed "wrong" by the law I think the Agents should be penalized alot harder than the kids. But he will get a PILE of money, enough for several families to retire on, the agent will make a pile, the team and fans are the ones that loose. But I still can't blame the kid or call it a "bad" choice. JM2C

I'm with you Mental. Actually, Andre would have been crazy to play in that game anyway. He's assured of a #2 draft pick and a multimillion $ contract. If he gets a career ending injury in that game, all of that is gone. College football is all about money, and Andre deserves to get his. Thank him for his great play in the past, and wish him well. He has to do what's best for him.

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Originally posted by Smooth operator:

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Originally posted by MentalFloss:
OK what if you were say 20 or 21 years old or so. If someone hung a hook baited with 50 mill in front of you, would you bite? I would without a doubt. If this is viewed "wrong" by the law I think the Agents should be penalized alot harder than the kids. But he will get a PILE of money, enough for several families to retire on, the agent will make a pile, the team and fans are the ones that loose. But I still can't blame the kid or call it a "bad" choice. JM2C

I'm with you Mental. Actually, Andre would have been crazy to play in that game anyway. He's assured of a #2 draft pick and a multimillion $ contract. If he gets a career ending injury in that game, all of that is gone. College football is all about money, and Andre deserves to get his. Thank him for his great play in the past, and wish him well. He has to do what's best for him.

And he did,..... he declared yesterday in Montgomery. Hope he drafts high. I figure top 5. Mock drafts had him at 2. Which ever way it goes he will pocket a few dollars. Good luck Andre and thank you. He came in at a time that wasnt the brightest for Bama. And he leaves Bama better off than when he signed. Link Link to going pro.