Originally Posted by semiannualchick:

They're just human beings like the rest of us. What were we supposed to think they would be dressed like?

Yes they are but with the Priesthood of God and very special callings. Some people expect Modern day Apostles to be dressed like they did in Jesus time.

quote:   Originally Posted by Dwight WoolyBugger:
Yes they are but with the Priesthood of God and very special callings.  Some people expect Modern day Apostles to be dressed like they did in Jesus time.

Hi Dwight,

 

Can you show us that in the Bible -- about their Priesthood? 

 

Also, can you show us Modern Day Apostles in the Bible?  My Bible tells me that the ONLY apostles are those who personally walked with Jesus Christ.  And, it tells me that the only exception to that is the special apostle Paul, who met Jesus Christ personally on the road to Damascus.  Since only a person who has personally met or walked with Jesus Christ can be an apostle -- how old are these twelve?

 

If they are that old -- maybe they should be wearing clothing similar to what Jesus wore.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

Originally Posted by Bill Gray:
quote:   Originally Posted by Dwight WoolyBugger:
Yes they are but with the Priesthood of God and very special callings.  Some people expect Modern day Apostles to be dressed like they did in Jesus time.

Hi Dwight,

 

Can you show us that in the Bible -- about their Priesthood? 

 

Also, can you show us Modern Day Apostles in the Bible?  My Bible tells me that the ONLY apostles are those who personally walked with Jesus Christ.  And, it tells me that the only exception to that is the special apostle Paul, who met Jesus Christ personally on the road to Damascus.  Since only a person who has personally met or walked with Jesus Christ can be an apostle -- how old are these twelve?

 

If they are that old -- maybe they should be wearing clothing similar to what Jesus wore.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

Bill, you are so buisy trying to make Mormons look stupid that you fail to realise that the answer to your question is in your post.  Quit trying to be cute and impress everyone around you. Quit thinking this forum is your personal mission and go back to your other 20 missions. Quit trying to be Gods mouth piece on the Bible. Bill, you are a great missionary in your own head. Your antics are getting old, no one wants to play your game with you, go home. Take your ball with you too if you want to. You sewem to be someone needing to be the center of attention and always right. YOUR NOT

quote:  Originally Posted by Dwight WoolyBugger:
Bill, you are so buisy (sic) trying to make Mormons look stupid -- that you fail to realise (sic) that the answer to your question is in your post. 

Hi Dwight,

 

On the first part of your statement, "Bill, you are so buisy (sic) trying to make Mormons look stupid" -- you, Dwight, accomplish that all by yourself.

 

And, on the second, "that you fail to realise (sic) that the answer to your question is in your post" -- please humor me.  Show me the answer.   Can you name even ONE of the Mormon apostles you named in your earlier post -- who actually walked with Jesus Christ (the preexisting Jesus Christ of John 1:1) during his earthly ministry?  Otherwise, according to the Bible, the only Written Word of God -- they are all phonies.   Not only that, they are phonies in a CULT religion.

 

Dwight, if you want to believe in and follow a cult religion; that is your choice.  But, every time you post your cult Mormon teachings on the Religion Forum -- we will refute you and shine the Light of God's Word on your cult teachings.  So, if anyone is making your Mormon church look bad -- it is you by drawing all this attention to those false teachings and to the cult status of your church.

 

Keep in mind the old adage, "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool -- than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt"  -- often attributed to Abraham Lincoln; but, most likely derived from Proverbs 17:28 (NLT) which reads, "Even fools are thought wise when they keep silent; with their mouths shut, they seem intelligent."

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

Originally Posted by Bill Gray:
quote:  Originally Posted by Dwight WoolyBugger:
Bill, you are so buisy (sic) trying to make Mormons look stupid -- that you fail to realise (sic) that the answer to your question is in your post. 

Hi Dwight,

 

On the first part of your statement, "Bill, you are so buisy (sic) trying to make Mormons look stupid" -- you, Dwight, accomplish that all by yourself.

 

And, on the second, "that you fail to realise (sic) that the answer to your question is in your post" -- please humor me.  Show me the answer.   Can you name even ONE of the Mormon apostles you named in your earlier post -- who actually walked with Jesus Christ (the preexisting Jesus Christ of John 1:1) during his earthly ministry?  Otherwise, according to the Bible, the only Written Word of God -- they are all phonies.   Not only that, they are phonies in a CULT religion.

 

Dwight, if you want to believe in and follow a cult religion; that is your choice.  But, every time you post your cult Mormon teachings on the Religion Forum -- we will refute you and shine the Light of God's Word on your cult teachings.  So, if anyone is making your Mormon church look bad -- it is you by drawing all this attention to those false teachings and to the cult status of your church.

 

Keep in mind the old adage, "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool -- than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt"  -- often attributed to Abraham Lincoln; but, most likely derived from Proverbs 17:28 (NLT) which reads, "Even fools are thought wise when they keep silent; with their mouths shut, they seem intelligent."

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill


again, more christian insults. Very Christ like Bill! Great Fruits, " By their fruits ye shall know them.

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quote:   Originally Posted by  Dwight WoolyBugger:
again, more christian (sic) insults.  Very Christ like Bill!  Great Fruits, "  By their fruits ye shall know them.

Hi all,

 

Absolute proof of the old adage, "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool -- than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt" 

 

Thank you, my Mormon Friend.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

Originally Posted by Bill Gray:

Hi Dwight,

every time you post your cult Mormon teachings on the Religion Forum -- we will refute you and shine the Light of God's Word on your cult teachings.  So, if anyone is making your Mormon church look bad -- it is you by drawing all this attention to those false teachings and to the cult status of your church.

 

Keep in mind the old adage, "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool -- than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt"  -- often attributed to Abraham Lincoln; but, most likely derived from Proverbs 17:28 (NLT) which reads, "Even fools are thought wise when they keep silent; with their mouths shut, they seem intelligent."

Bill

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Same could be said for you, Bill. If anyone can & is drawing attention to the false teachings of Christianity, & what a hat wearing Christian is, it's you.

 

"Even fools are thought wise when they keep silent; with their mouths shut, they seem intelligent."

It's odd that you should quote a scripture that describes you to a T. 

quote:  Originally Posted by BFred07:

I prefer a Church that's a non-prophet organization


Hi Fred,

 

I love it!  I love it!   And, that is my feelings exactly.   Any time I find a church which has "prophets" -- I walk away or change the channel.   AMEN!  AMEN!  AMEN!

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

Actually Dwight, I don't think Bill's questions were answered adequately.  You say he answered his own questions but I have to admit I don't know those answers either.


How can the church call these men apostles unless they Walked with and were taught by and interacted with Christ Jesus which, as was indicated by Bill, is the Biblical distinction of an Apostle?


What also are the Presidency as they appear from the chart to be above the Church's Apostles.  I see one President and two Counselors.  Are these, according to the LDS Church direct descendents of Joseph Smith.  What I'm trying to ask is if they are analogous to Joseph Smith in the way that the Catholic Church sees the Pope in the lineage of the Apostle Peter?  Is this Thomas S. Manson considered to be in the direct lineage of Joseph Smith?  What is the relationship of President to Apostle?


Where is there any Scriptural justification or instruction from the Scriptures to justify this organizational structure?  Do these men have the ability to create scripture and new instructions to the Church?

Originally Posted by gbrk:

Actually Dwight, I don't think Bill's questions were answered adequately.  You say he answered his own questions but I have to admit I don't know those answers either.


How can the church call these men apostles unless they Walked with and were taught by and interacted with Christ Jesus which, as was indicated by Bill, is the Biblical distinction of an Apostle?

 

What also are the Presidency as they appear from the chart to be above the Church's Apostles.  I see one President and two Counselors.  Are these, according to the LDS Church direct descendents of Joseph Smith.  What I'm trying to ask is if they are analogous to Joseph Smith in the way that the Catholic Church sees the Pope in the lineage of the Apostle Peter?  Is this Thomas S. Manson considered to be in the direct lineage of Joseph Smith?  What is the relationship of President to Apostle? The Presidency is not direct lineage from Joseph. When the Joseph Smith was murdered by the mob, there was a splitting of the church. The split came because a group thought the leadership position should be handed down from father to son etc. That group is called the RLDS. They have a problem now though, the current leader has no sons!

     Jesus Christ is the head of the church, The church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter Day Saints.  Thomas Monson is the President of the church and is the Prophet that receives revelation from Jesus Christ on how to run the Church then teaches the Apostles and assigns them their labors. , He has two counselors. The Apostles are, SPECIAL WITNESSES to Jesus Christ being ALIVE and REAL.  When the Prophet dies, the first presidency is dissolved. The 12 Apostles have all the keys to watch over and run the church untill God reveals who will be the next Prophet. There is NO voting process like the Catholics have, God , through revelation to the Apostles, tells them who will be the next Prophet and leader of the church. All the Apostles then unamously ( spelling), sustain the new Prophet and he prays about who will be his two counselors and the church keeps moving forward. 


Where is there any Scriptural justification or instruction from the Scriptures to justify this organizational structure?  Do these men have the ability to create scripture and new instructions to the Church? The scriptural justification is all through the Bible. Follow as Jesus sets up HIS organization, This church is not man made, Joseph Smith didnt start this church, this is the RESTORATION of Jesus original organization and it was RESTORED to this earth one last time in the 1800s BY JESUS CHRIST THROUGH  HIS PROPHET Joseph Smith.  READ AMOS 3:7 about the Prophet and Gods dealings with them.

 

      If there are any new instructions to the church these men do not have the power to make them up. All instructions for this church come DIRECT FROM JESUS CHRIST THROUGH HIS PROPHET Then it gets passed down through the Apostles to the world, ( if the world accepts them or not).

 

Now I know this will be hard for many to swollow and this is where people need to pray and ask GOD if it is true or a lie. You must have it verified by the HOLY GHOST who is the third person of the GODHEAD and HIS job is to wittness ALL TRUTH.

 

      God WILL hear and answer your prayers on this matter.   For how to pray read post 21 on my blog,  For how to recognize Gods answers to your prayers read post 68 on the same blog.

http://cherokeesrealcobra.blogspot.com

 

Originally Posted by WoolyBugger:
 Jesus Christ is the head of the church, Thomas Monson is the President of the church and is the Prophet that receives revelation from Jesus Christ on how to run the Church then teaches the Apostles and assigns them their labors. , He has two counselors. The Apostles are, SPECIAL WITNESSES to Jesus Christ being ALIVE and REAL.

 

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So does this President actually HEAR the voice of God telling him what to do or he just does what he believes God would have him to do? If he can actually hear God's voice, can he see God while God is talking to him?

Alive & Real as in walking here on this earth?

Originally Posted by frog:

I find I giggle more at some of the answers in this forum than I do reading cartoons or listening to comedians.  I'm not insulting anyone's beliefs, but just some of the things said are really lol.

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I don't see your opinion as insulting. I laugh at some of them too.

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