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J Jan55Old Faithful
Bush and the Bible: A Letter to George Bush
Dear President Bush,

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from you and understand why you would propose and support a constitutional amendment banning same sex marriage. As you said "in the eyes of God marriage is based between a man a woman." I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination... End of debate.

I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some other elements of God's Laws and how to follow them.

1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanness - Lev.15: 19-24. The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev.1:9. The problem is, my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

5. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2. clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it?

6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination - Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this? Are there 'degrees' of abomination?

7. Lev.21:20 states that I may ! not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle- room here?

8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?

9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

I know you have studied these things extensively and thus enjoy considerable expertise in such matters, so I am confident you can help.

Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.

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Z zann (Guest)
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Originally posted by Netracer41:
So it turns out President Bush was right about stem cells too. It makes one wonder what else will he turn out to be right about?


Are you a complete idiot or what? The only reason Bush has not been 86ed is he his not worth prison time! He is worthless and so his his daddy.They have killed thousands and got away with it!
PR Peter RiellyPost Master
PBA, you are such a freakin fool. You obviously have no grasp on the meaning of the Bible....Ive seen you post that you are a Christian and hate the hypocrisy of the right wing...well, how bout in the future you try not to use sacralige to attack George W. Bush.
Also, do some studying on the Bible so you don't look like a retard when using passages from it.
F fineazell1Hall of Famer
quote:
Originally posted by Peter Rielly:
PBA, you are such a freakin fool. You obviously have no grasp on the meaning of the Bible....Ive seen you post that you are a Christian and hate the hypocrisy of the right wing...well, how bout in the future you try not to use sacralige to attack George W. Bush.
Also, do some studying on the Bible so you don't look like a retard when using passages from it.

I'm no expert on the Bible so I have no idea what those passages mean. Would you mind clarifying what they mean?
J Jan55Old Faithful
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Originally posted by riffinriff:
PBA, used to work for WVNA, along with NashBama, the word is out. I know who he is, so come out PBA maybe you need to stop hiding in the closet, so that is why your support the right wing, do you support gays and their rights.



If you know me let it be known! No, I don't worry about gays like some fools like yourself. Gay is not contagious fool! I could care less what you or gays do in the bedroom. At least I respect someone who is out in the open about being gay, rather than some of you right wingers, who is in the closet sucking off anything you can. Take that and shove up yours jack!! Cool


Just to show how dumb you really are, take a look at what you said>>>> so that is why your support the right wing, do you support gays and their rights.


Yep, Its the right wing who wants gay rights!!!lol Big Grin If I did not no better, You talk like Peter. Are you Peter hiding under another name? Razzer
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J Jan55Old Faithful
quote:
Originally posted by fineazell1:
quote:
Originally posted by Peter Rielly:
PBA, you are such a freakin fool. You obviously have no grasp on the meaning of the Bible....Ive seen you post that you are a Christian and hate the hypocrisy of the right wing...well, how bout in the future you try not to use sacralige to attack George W. Bush.
Also, do some studying on the Bible so you don't look like a retard when using passages from it.

I'm no expert on the Bible so I have no idea what those passages mean. Would you mind clarifying what they mean?




I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some other elements of God's Laws and how to follow them.

1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?<<

You can't own Canadains because the exchange rate with the US dollar is not what it used to be and Canadian slaves would now cost to much.

2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?<<

I am guessing whatever you can get for her on e-bay?

3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanness - Lev.15: 19-24. The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.<<

Try using a calendar I guess?

4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev.1:9. The problem is, my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?<<

No, you should try using a dry rub next time.

5. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2. clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it?<<

Good question, i'll go ask my priest after he finishes mass on Sunday.

6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination - Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this? Are there 'degrees' of abomination?<<

You will burn in hell if you eat oysters with Boy Goerge.

7. Lev.21:20 states that I may ! not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle- room here?<<

Bush used to have "beer goggles", and did he get punished for it?

8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?<<

With a mullet on their head?

9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?<<

Yes, but according to NFL legue rules, those gloves cannot have stickum on them.

10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)<<

So thats why the South was torched during the Cival War?
PR Peter RiellyPost Master
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Originally posted by fineazell1:
quote:
Originally posted by Peter Rielly:
PBA, you are such a freakin fool. You obviously have no grasp on the meaning of the Bible....Ive seen you post that you are a Christian and hate the hypocrisy of the right wing...well, how bout in the future you try not to use sacralige to attack George W. Bush.
Also, do some studying on the Bible so you don't look like a retard when using passages from it.

I'm no expert on the Bible so I have no idea what those passages mean. Would you mind clarifying what they mean?


Idiots like PBA try to get fancy with Bible passages...they far out-think their capacity to do so. When reading the Bible, certain books and passages you have to keep them in context. In Leviticus, these "laws of the unclean" must be read in context with the time and with commons sense. God was trying to keep His children safe...These laws were created as that safeguard. Take something like seatbelts or the speed limit today...if God spoke audibly in the present and said "Do not drive over 55 mph and always wear your seatbelt." That means He has a very good reason for that, and that law should be obeyed strinuously.
Same with the shellfish, not touching the dead animals, and staying away from women who are on their period or have just given birth. These are health issues. Look at those issues and now apply them to today...Obviously with advancements in cooking methods shellfish is safer to eat, touching a dead animal may still make you sick, but treatment for any illness would be pretty easy to find.
Childbirth is extremely traumatic as has been well documented, the reason for the quarintine was for the health of the new mother, her baby, and the rest of the folks that may be close to them. Avoiding infection, and in case of infection avoinding a spread. Same with a woman's time of the month. In both of these instances, thanks to advancements we don't have to worry about these things in modern day.
God made these laws in order to protect, not condemn...Once again, when studying the Bible, common sense is ok to use, and context for the passage is essential.
J Jan55Old Faithful
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Originally posted by Peter Rielly:
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Originally posted by fineazell1:
quote:
Originally posted by Peter Rielly:
PBA, you are such a freakin fool. You obviously have no grasp on the meaning of the Bible....Ive seen you post that you are a Christian and hate the hypocrisy of the right wing...well, how bout in the future you try not to use sacralige to attack George W. Bush.
Also, do some studying on the Bible so you don't look like a retard when using passages from it.

I'm no expert on the Bible so I have no idea what those passages mean. Would you mind clarifying what they mean?


Idiots like PBA try to get fancy with Bible passages...they far out-think their capacity to do so. When reading the Bible, certain books and passages you have to keep them in context. In Leviticus, these "laws of the unclean" must be read in context with the time and with commons sense. God was trying to keep His children safe...These laws were created as that safeguard. Take something like seatbelts or the speed limit today...if God spoke audibly in the present and said "Do not drive over 55 mph and always wear your seatbelt." That means He has a very good reason for that, and that law should be obeyed strinuously.
Same with the shellfish, not touching the dead animals, and staying away from women who are on their period or have just given birth. These are health issues. Look at those issues and now apply them to today...Obviously with advancements in cooking methods shellfish is safer to eat, touching a dead animal may still make you sick, but treatment for any illness would be pretty easy to find.
Childbirth is extremely traumatic as has been well documented, the reason for the quarintine was for the health of the new mother, her baby, and the rest of the folks that may be close to them. Avoiding infection, and in case of infection avoinding a spread. Same with a woman's time of the month. In both of these instances, thanks to advancements we don't have to worry about these things in modern day.
God made these laws in order to protect, not condemn...Once again, when studying the Bible, common sense is ok to use, and context for the passage is essential.



Peter Teter, It was a joke!! ding dong the wicked witch is dead!! Peter you hang yourself everytime! But I like you brother! Wink
F fineazell1Hall of Famer
quote:
Originally posted by Peter Rielly:
Idiots like PBA try to get fancy with Bible passages...they far out-think their capacity to do so. When reading the Bible, certain books and passages you have to keep them in context. In Leviticus, these "laws of the unclean" must be read in context with the time and with commons sense. God was trying to keep His children safe...These laws were created as that safeguard. Take something like seatbelts or the speed limit today...if God spoke audibly in the present and said "Do not drive over 55 mph and always wear your seatbelt." That means He has a very good reason for that, and that law should be obeyed strinuously.
Same with the shellfish, not touching the dead animals, and staying away from women who are on their period or have just given birth. These are health issues. Look at those issues and now apply them to today...Obviously with advancements in cooking methods shellfish is safer to eat, touching a dead animal may still make you sick, but treatment for any illness would be pretty easy to find.
Childbirth is extremely traumatic as has been well documented, the reason for the quarintine was for the health of the new mother, her baby, and the rest of the folks that may be close to them. Avoiding infection, and in case of infection avoinding a spread. Same with a woman's time of the month. In both of these instances, thanks to advancements we don't have to worry about these things in modern day.
God made these laws in order to protect, not condemn...Once again, when studying the Bible, common sense is ok to use, and context for the passage is essential.


Are you saying that some of the passages can be ignored now because of advancements in our knowledge and the "modernization" of our society?

Who chooses which ones are "safe" now and which ones are still for our "protection"?
DHS-86DHS-86Hall of Famer
quote:
Originally posted by Peter Rielly:
PBA, you are such a freakin fool. You obviously have no grasp on the meaning of the Bible....Ive seen you post that you are a Christian and hate the hypocrisy of the right wing...well, how bout in the future you try not to use sacralige to attack George W. Bush.
Also, do some studying on the Bible so you don't look like a retard when using passages from it.


What is up with the attacks? A lot of us don't agree with most of what PBA cuts and pastes, but you are freaking out a little.

Next, please, DO NOT used the term "retard" on this forum again. Some people on here have family members with special needs and that word is VERY offensive. On this thread and one other, that I know of, you have started to lose any credibility that you might have had.
miamizsunmiamizsunHall of Famer
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Originally posted by zann75:
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Originally posted by miamizsun:
Bush is a typical President, nothing special and his timing was poor. But this scenario would/could have happened to any Democrat or Republican.


Maybe/Maybe not,it has nothing to do with what party they are.Bush is a sorry piece of sh--.


The Democratic and the Republican politicians are all cr@p. I say this because they have been in power forever. Just look at their legacy. Horrendous. So, you can pick Bush, Clinton, Reagan, etc. and it doesn't matter.

Bush Jr. is just getting more exposure because of the technology we have today. But not to worry, I'm afraid that the American people have been so brainwashed they will still fall for the same old BS and pull the lever for the same old rep that has been bending them over.

Will we ever learn? Probably not until it is too late.
J Jan55Old Faithful
quote:
Originally posted by miamizsun:
quote:
Originally posted by zann75:
quote:
Originally posted by miamizsun:
Bush is a typical President, nothing special and his timing was poor. But this scenario would/could have happened to any Democrat or Republican.


Maybe/Maybe not,it has nothing to do with what party they are.Bush is a sorry piece of sh--.


The Democratic and the Republican politicians are all cr@p. I say this because they have been in power forever. Just look at their legacy. Horrendous. So, you can pick Bush, Clinton, Reagan, etc. and it doesn't matter.

Bush Jr. is just getting more exposure because of the technology we have today. But not to worry, I'm afraid that the American people have been so brainwashed they will still fall for the same old BS and pull the lever for the same old rep that has been bending them over.

Will we ever learn? Probably not until it is too late.




miamizsun, I agree with you and that is what I have been doing is to get people to read not to fight! If they would just open the other eye lid they might see what I am talking about. These people want to attack the poster and not debate the poster.
PR Peter RiellyPost Master
quote:
Originally posted by PBA:
Peter Teter, It was a joke!! ding dong the wicked witch is dead!! Peter you hang yourself everytime! But I like you brother! Wink


Get off it, you love that and you believe the same as the person who wrote the joke. I was simply pointing out your hypocrisy...the king of pointing it out.
My second post was because someone asked me to eloborate on what I first said.
PR Peter RiellyPost Master
quote:
Originally posted by fineazell1:
Are you saying that some of the passages can be ignored now because of advancements in our knowledge and the "modernization" of our society?

Who chooses which ones are "safe" now and which ones are still for our "protection"?


It's really a ton to go into on a message board, but I'll say this, NONE of the Bible should be ignored. However, like I said, it must all be taken in context. Don't read Leviticus just to read it, read Exodus first as much of the two are connected. Much of the Bible is stories told about different people, groups of people, places and things. Certain aspects, as these "laws of the unclean" are not applicable to today...like I said, God told this group to follow these laws for a specific reason. The sin wasn't neccesarily breaking the quarintine of a woman who just gave birth, the sin was disobeying God's law of the time which was instituted for the safety of many. The sin was not eating shellfish, it was disobeying God's law. Say someone eats shellfish, gets sick and spreads it through this large group and many die...That's what God wanted to avoid. Once again, that was special instruction for a specific group of people at a specific time.
God ordered one group to kill other groups many times in the Bible, should we assume killing is okay simply because God ordered it to a specific group at a specific time? No. These are life lessons. We live, we learn, WE USE COMMON SENSE to make decisions in life.
J Jan55Old Faithful
quote:
Originally posted by fineazell1:
quote:
Originally posted by PBA:
miamizsun, I agree with you and that is what I have been doing is to get people to read not to fight! If they would just open the other eye lid they might see what I am talking about. These people want to attack the poster and not debate the poster.


I'll debate you. Big Grin



You always do good debates and you're civil not like most in here. At least you don't attack the poster just because you disagree. Smiler
F fineazell1Hall of Famer
quote:
Originally posted by Peter Rielly:
It's really a ton to go into on a message board, but I'll say this, NONE of the Bible should be ignored. However, like I said, it must all be taken in context. Don't read Leviticus just to read it, read Exodus first as much of the two are connected. Much of the Bible is stories told about different people, groups of people, places and things. Certain aspects, as these "laws of the unclean" are not applicable to today...like I said, God told this group to follow these laws for a specific reason. The sin wasn't neccesarily breaking the quarintine of a woman who just gave birth, the sin was disobeying God's law of the time which was instituted for the safety of many. The sin was not eating shellfish, it was disobeying God's law. Say someone eats shellfish, gets sick and spreads it through this large group and many die...That's what God wanted to avoid. Once again, that was special instruction for a specific group of people at a specific time.
God ordered one group to kill other groups many times in the Bible, should we assume killing is okay simply because God ordered it to a specific group at a specific time? No. These are life lessons. We live, we learn, WE USE COMMON SENSE to make decisions in life.


I guess that is where I have always been confused about religion. Growing up in the south I spent a lot of time in church. I am an analytical thinker so I have always questioned things taught to me from the Bible.
I just wonder what makes the passage about homosexuality still valid while the passage about shellfish invalid?
Blue HornetBlue HornetSmall Talker
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Originally posted by excelman:
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Originally posted by w_z:
You guys have got to be on dope! That can be the only explanation.


There is another explanation: they have put computers in the insane wing of the hospital and allow inmates to use them.


Hmmm, good theory, but I go with the dope explanation. Must be some good stuff, gonna have to make me some connections.
PR Peter RiellyPost Master
quote:
Originally posted by fineazell1:
quote:
Originally posted by Peter Rielly:
It's really a ton to go into on a message board, but I'll say this, NONE of the Bible should be ignored. However, like I said, it must all be taken in context. Don't read Leviticus just to read it, read Exodus first as much of the two are connected. Much of the Bible is stories told about different people, groups of people, places and things. Certain aspects, as these "laws of the unclean" are not applicable to today...like I said, God told this group to follow these laws for a specific reason. The sin wasn't neccesarily breaking the quarintine of a woman who just gave birth, the sin was disobeying God's law of the time which was instituted for the safety of many. The sin was not eating shellfish, it was disobeying God's law. Say someone eats shellfish, gets sick and spreads it through this large group and many die...That's what God wanted to avoid. Once again, that was special instruction for a specific group of people at a specific time.
God ordered one group to kill other groups many times in the Bible, should we assume killing is okay simply because God ordered it to a specific group at a specific time? No. These are life lessons. We live, we learn, WE USE COMMON SENSE to make decisions in life.


I guess that is where I have always been confused about religion. Growing up in the south I spent a lot of time in church. I am an analytical thinker so I have always questioned things taught to me from the Bible.
I just wonder what makes the passage about homosexuality still valid while the passage about shellfish invalid?


Great question!!!!! I was waiting on that one. That's where you find the difference in specific instruction for a specific time vs. sins of the heart that carry over for all time. Sexual deviance off all kinds are attacked by God over and over as disgusting a vile throughout the Bible...Sodom and Gomora, King David, etc....Read Romans chapter one and a clear picture of how God feels about homosexuality and all sexual sin is very evident.

by the way, I was raised in a Southern Baptist church from the time I was conceived, so I know how the legalism of religion can cloud actual learning...I wouldn't trade it for anything as it help my development and help me stay out of trouble as a kid...But once a person gets older I believe it's in their best interest to study indepentantly of any organization...Like I said earlier, one of God's greatest gifts to us is common sense...using that in your studies will help you greatly.
J Jan55Old Faithful
quote:
Originally posted by Peter Rielly:
quote:
Originally posted by fineazell1:
quote:
Originally posted by Peter Rielly:
It's really a ton to go into on a message board, but I'll say this, NONE of the Bible should be ignored. However, like I said, it must all be taken in context. Don't read Leviticus just to read it, read Exodus first as much of the two are connected. Much of the Bible is stories told about different people, groups of people, places and things. Certain aspects, as these "laws of the unclean" are not applicable to today...like I said, God told this group to follow these laws for a specific reason. The sin wasn't neccesarily breaking the quarintine of a woman who just gave birth, the sin was disobeying God's law of the time which was instituted for the safety of many. The sin was not eating shellfish, it was disobeying God's law. Say someone eats shellfish, gets sick and spreads it through this large group and many die...That's what God wanted to avoid. Once again, that was special instruction for a specific group of people at a specific time.
God ordered one group to kill other groups many times in the Bible, should we assume killing is okay simply because God ordered it to a specific group at a specific time? No. These are life lessons. We live, we learn, WE USE COMMON SENSE to make decisions in life.


I guess that is where I have always been confused about religion. Growing up in the south I spent a lot of time in church. I am an analytical thinker so I have always questioned things taught to me from the Bible.
I just wonder what makes the passage about homosexuality still valid while the passage about shellfish invalid?


Great question!!!!! I was waiting on that one. That's where you find the difference in specific instruction for a specific time vs. sins of the heart that carry over for all time. Sexual deviance off all kinds are attacked by God over and over as disgusting a vile throughout the Bible...Sodom and Gomora, King David, etc....Read Romans chapter one and a clear picture of how God feels about homosexuality and all sexual sin is very evident.

by the way, I was raised in a Southern Baptist church from the time I was conceived, so I know how the legalism of religion can cloud actual learning...I wouldn't trade it for anything as it help my development and help me stay out of trouble as a kid...But once a person gets older I believe it's in their best interest to study indepentantly of any organization...Like I said earlier, one of God's greatest gifts to us is common sense...using that in your studies will help you greatly.



Do Southern Baptist Think like the Northern Baptist?
Karl LeubaKarl LeubaPost Master
PBA, I think I would as a more generalized question.

Do Baptists think?

Now, before all the Baptists I just insulted get all huffy, allow me to clarify the question.

Do they think about the full consequences of: following the teachings of a false Prophet?
the fact that being a believer in God does not make you a prophet of God?

George Bush is NOT a Prophet. He has no right to claim that he is, and his claim that God Speaks to him is a proactive claim that he is a Prophet of God.

Beware of false Prophets. They may be right about a specific principal and wrong about all others. The single correct guess is not enough to pass the tests.
J Jan55Old Faithful
quote:
Originally posted by Karl Leuba:
PBA, I think I would as a more generalized question.

Do Baptists think?

Now, before all the Baptists I just insulted get all huffy, allow me to clarify the question.

Do they think about the full consequences of: following the teachings of a false Prophet?
the fact that being a believer in God does not make you a prophet of God?

George Bush is NOT a Prophet. He has no right to claim that he is, and his claim that God Speaks to him is a proactive claim that he is a Prophet of God.

Beware of false Prophets. They may be right about a specific principal and wrong about all others. The single correct guess is not enough to pass the tests.



Beware of false Prophets! Beware of false christians too!
PR Peter RiellyPost Master
quote:
Originally posted by Karl Leuba:
PBA, I think I would as a more generalized question.

Do Baptists think?

Now, before all the Baptists I just insulted get all huffy, allow me to clarify the question.

Do they think about the full consequences of: following the teachings of a false Prophet?
the fact that being a believer in God does not make you a prophet of God?

George Bush is NOT a Prophet. He has no right to claim that he is, and his claim that God Speaks to him is a proactive claim that he is a Prophet of God.

Beware of false Prophets. They may be right about a specific principal and wrong about all others. The single correct guess is not enough to pass the tests.


PAAAAAAAAAAALEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZZZEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
ARE YOU FREAKIN SERIOUS??? Did your hyper-hatred of George W. Bush really just cause you to interject on a topic that has absolutely nothing to do with him....For the love of all that is good in the world people, GIVE IT A REST. You libs are borderline psycotic with this crap.
mrbradg 2mrbradg 2Hall of Famer
I'm not going to take sides or anything but I want 10 mins of my life back. I just clicked through all these posts and learned nothing but the same crap most of you talk about. Using words like retard, lefties, libs, rights, lefts, who gives a sh**! Do you see what happens when people don't use common since, bring up religion, etc.? It sickens me to listen to all of you.

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