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Marijuana can NOT cure cancer. It's irresponsible to spread that lie.  Anyone can get a prescription for pot, so the claim that only people with medical needs will be using it is bull. Most people don't want the medical marijuana that doesn't get them high.

Medical marijuana as the new herbalism, part 2: Cannabis does not cure cancer

https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/

 

Dr. Drew: If Medical Marijuana Cured Cancer, 'I'd Be High Right Now'

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...ancer_n_5884578.html

 

http://depletedcranium.com/let...ment/comment-page-2/

 

Smoking or eating marijuana is not a cure for cancer

here’s a modern myth that marijuana (cannabis sativa), in its natural form, is effective at both preventing and treating cancer. This myth has become ever more popular with the gradual approval of marijuana for recreational use in many places, most notably in some American states.

This misplaced belief most likely stems from the numerous studies that have shown that select chemicals found in marijuana have some anticancer properties. But it misses many important aspects of pharmacy that go beyond just the chemicals in the plant.

Marijuana, whether smoked or ingested, is not effective because dose and method of delivery are just as relevant to anticancer activity as the drug itself. And the damage caused to the body from long-term marijuana use may negate any perceived health benefits.

http://theconversation.com/smo...ure-for-cancer-24224

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Bestworking, I hope you never have a child that comes down with violent sizures or have severe neurologial disorders. Look up Carley's law in Alabama. Also Georgia has legalize it for ALS, cancer, mutitple sclerosis and Parkinson disease and who knows what all other diseases it might help. Besides that just about every drug on the market now may cause cancer and other side effects.

Originally Posted by Runy:

Bestworking, I hope you never have a child that comes down with violent sizures or have severe neurologial disorders. Look up Carley's law in Alabama. Also Georgia has legalize it for ALS, cancer, mutitple sclerosis and Parkinson disease and who knows what all other diseases it might help. Besides that just about every drug on the market now may cause cancer and other side effects.

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What is with your lecture? What does a child with seizures have to do with my post? I don't have to look up anything. Read what I posted. Marijuana is NOT a cure for cancer. That is one part I addressed. The other part I addressed, was where the poster said legalize it just for medical use, and I posted that anyone will be able to get it for almost any reason, they are getting it now for all sorts of silly reasons. Again, what does that have to do with seizures or people who are really sick or hurting? No where did I say it was not useful to them. I hope you never have a sick child, because you don't know how to read what others post and you wouldn't know how to follow directions. You'd be one of the 'duped'. I have read about the benefits to sick people, but it is not a miracle drug. That is what responsible doctors and others want people to realize. It is not a 'fix it all cure' for anything, and it does not cure cancer.

 

I read what the 'makers' of a drug from marijuana said, no one wanted it because it DOES NOT get them high. Then the child's mother contacted them, they tried it with the child, and it worked for her. They keep the child supplied, BUT it DOES NOT make the child high. I have never argued against medical marijuana. I have said there is no reason for people to be driving or out and about high while using it, because it doesn't have to have that side effect, but, once more for the ones that can't understand what they read, people who don't really need it medically only want the marijuana that will give them the high. Clear enough? And claiming it CURES cancer is irresponsible and a lie. It's quackery and can, will, and most likely already is being used by the unscrupulous to fleece innocent, desperate sick folks, and/or cause them to turn away from other treatment they need.

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Originally Posted by Runy:

Bestworking, I hope you never have a child that comes down with violent sizures or have severe neurologial disorders. Look up Carley's law in Alabama. Also Georgia has legalize it for ALS, cancer, mutitple sclerosis and Parkinson disease and who knows what all other diseases it might help. Besides that just about every drug on the market now may cause cancer and other side effects.

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Not only could you not comprehend my post, you didn't even read the articles did you, before you ran off half-cocked and posted? You were just so eager to post the snarky, "hope you never have a child with seizures" BS weren't you?

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Article excerpt:

In the future, the active chemicals from marijuana may enter mainstream medicine for the treatment of cancer. If so, they will be used in high-quality pharmaceutical preparations at the correct dose and in the most effective formulation.

So by all means use marijuana for recreational reasons (if that’s what you are into and it’s legal in your area) or for medically-prescribed pain relief, but don’t use it for the purpose of preventing or curing cancer.

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I have seen scientific experiments and literature that supports that cannabinoids do help alleviate the symptoms of nausea as well and suppress severe seizure activity. I would have no problems with people who can utilize this "drug" for symptomatic reasons.  Unfortunately, like Tylenol, opiates, and almost every other form of drug out there, it will and can be abused. I know there are many who will disagree with me, but for the most part I currently see it as no more dangerous than alcohol, and if it could be regulated properly, it would be no more dangerous to the community. It would in most likely terms also help curtail some of the prison over population we see as a result of the ineffective war on drugs.

Originally Posted by teyates:

I have seen scientific experiments and literature that supports that cannabinoids do help alleviate the symptoms of nausea as well and suppress severe seizure activity. I would have no problems with people who can utilize this "drug" for symptomatic reasons.  Unfortunately, like Tylenol, opiates, and almost every other form of drug out there, it will and can be abused. I know there are many who will disagree with me, but for the most part I currently see it as no more dangerous than alcohol, and if it could be regulated properly, it would be no more dangerous to the community. It would in most likely terms also help curtail some of the prison over population we see as a result of the ineffective war on drugs.

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There's the rub, it won't be regulated properly. I'd say alcohol is pretty dangerous. I can't stand a drunk anymore than I can stand someone messed up on dope. Useless people, just useless. Pot is just one more rotten thing to endorse, encourage, ignore, and use to sedate people then turn them loose on others. So how long before everything becomes legal because of over crowded prisons?

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Legal or non-legal, 'recreational' dopers and drunks are useless no matter their drug of choice. Even the so called taxpaying 'recreational' dope heads aren't worth anything imo. I've posted before that I wonder where the useless globs of dope smoking flesh that I worked with as a teen are today. Especially that one girl that had the pink eyes all the time, and wore the tinted glasses to hide them. Probably somewhere with five or six useless kids by five or six useless men, and all supported on taxpayer money. Now the taxpayers will be paying for her dope for real.

Most of the "useless globs of dopesmoking flesh" I grew up with are productive members of society.  One's that I was personal friends with are, a trained chef, one works in tax compliance, one manages the maintenance team at a large factory, one works for Ford.   Sure I can name two who do nothing, but to cast such a broad paintbrush on those dopeheads seems kind of silly, yet par for the course.

Cannabis (THC, marijuana) can also dosed in the form of oral forms, including oils. The research I saw was using THC oil to control severe seizures in a young child. A large part of the toxic effects of smoking come from the tars and nicotine which burn at high temperatures in cigarettes.  I am sure there are similar things in marijuana smoke as well, but the oral, and possibly dermal, compounds would not have this adverse effect.

Legal or non-legal, 'recreational' dopers and drunks are useless no matter their drug of choice. Even the so called taxpaying 'recreational' dope heads aren't worth anything imo. I've posted before that I wonder where the useless globs of dope smoking flesh that I worked with as a teen are today. Especially that one girl that had the pink eyes all the time, and wore the tinted glasses to hide them. Probably somewhere with five or six useless kids by five or six useless men, and all supported on taxpayer money. Now the taxpayers will be paying for her dope for real.

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Maybe she could be at a computer posting on a forum.

Originally Posted by jtdavis:

Legal or non-legal, 'recreational' dopers and drunks are useless no matter their drug of choice. Even the so called taxpaying 'recreational' dope heads aren't worth anything imo. I've posted before that I wonder where the useless globs of dope smoking flesh that I worked with as a teen are today. Especially that one girl that had the pink eyes all the time, and wore the tinted glasses to hide them. Probably somewhere with five or six useless kids by five or six useless men, and all supported on taxpayer money. Now the taxpayers will be paying for her dope for real.

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Maybe she could be at a computer posting on a forum.

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She could be, like you are. Yes, she could be, if it didn't mean taking time off from smoking her dope. Chaps your *** that I'm here, doesn't it jt. You just can't grasp that people can do more than one thing in a day, and so once more I say, it's no big deal to take 30 minutes a day to read and post here. At least I shut it off and go to bed at night. Of course I am here late if working on the website. Work, that four letter word you demmies hate. Apparently you are here all day and night from the looks of it so we can be assured you aren't getting any work done.

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Originally Posted by teyates:

Cannabis (THC, marijuana) can also dosed in the form of oral forms, including oils. The research I saw was using THC oil to control severe seizures in a young child. A large part of the toxic effects of smoking come from the tars and nicotine which burn at high temperatures in cigarettes.  I am sure there are similar things in marijuana smoke as well, but the oral, and possibly dermal, compounds would not have this adverse effect.

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The same report I saw? The makers are now producing it for the child, but said it is not popular because it doesn't get the person high?

it's no big deal to take 30 minutes a day to read and post here. At least I shut it off and go to bed at night. Of course I am here late if working on the website. Work, that four letter word you demmies hate. Apparently you are here all day and night from the looks of it so we can be assured you aren't getting any work done.

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This post makes 3 on this topic for me. Your total is 8. You accuse me of being on here a lot.

I lost a cousin to cancer a few years ago. She suffered tremendously from the pain and from the sickness brought on by treatments. She lost her appetite and her health suffered even more due to loss of nutrition. She eventually started taking marijuana in the form of cookies. It relieved her pain and gave her an appetite. Of course she got high too, but the high from marijuana is a calming and happy high. I was very happy to see her have some relief and some peace from her illness. It did not cure her of the cancer of course, but it gave her comfort and I am sure helped get her through some the roughest times of her illness. Sadly to get her this drug family members had to break the law and risk being jailed if caught. Legalize it! 

Originally Posted by Bestworking:
Originally Posted by jtdavis:

Legal or non-legal, 'recreational' dopers and drunks are useless no matter their drug of choice. Even the so called taxpaying 'recreational' dope heads aren't worth anything imo. I've posted before that I wonder where the useless globs of dope smoking flesh that I worked with as a teen are today. Especially that one girl that had the pink eyes all the time, and wore the tinted glasses to hide them. Probably somewhere with five or six useless kids by five or six useless men, and all supported on taxpayer money. Now the taxpayers will be paying for her dope for real.

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Maybe she could be at a computer posting on a forum.

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She could be, like you are. Yes, she could be, if it didn't mean taking time off from smoking her dope. Chaps your *** that I'm here, doesn't it jt. You just can't grasp that people can do more than one thing in a day, and so once more I say, it's no big deal to take 30 minutes a day to read and post here. At least I shut it off and go to bed at night. Of course I am here late if working on the website. Work, that four letter word you demmies hate. Apparently you are here all day and night from the looks of it so we can be assured you aren't getting any work done.

LOL best, that website ain't going anywhere. Give it up. I don't see anything you have changed.

 Chaps your *** that I'm here, doesn't it jt. You just can't grasp that people can do more than one thing in a day, and so once more I say, it's no big deal to take 30 minutes a day to read and post here. At least I shut it off and go to bed at night. Of course I am here late if working on the website. Work, that four letter word you demmies hate. Apparently you are here all day and night from the looks of it so we can be assured you aren't getting any work done.

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Country boy, it doesn't bother me that you're here. Yes, I can grasp the concept of multitasking. I'm glad you can take 30 minutes to read and post. I'm proud you go to bed at night. Of course, sometimes you work late on the website(is that because you can't multitask). As far as work, I am retired, before I retired, I would challenge you for the amount of work and work attendence any time. If you would take time to read the amount of posting that I do, you wouldn't think I am here day and night. But you are like others on this forum, you can't think anything but bad of a democrat voter. As for work, I started driving a truck in the hayfield before I started to school, and worked until I was 65 1/2. Don't try to accuse me of not working. Of course, in your pea brain, I'm wrong, you're right, end of discussion.

Few dispensaries stock CBD-heavy weed that doesn’t get you high. Then Paige Figi found Joel Stanley. One of 11 siblings raised by a single mother and their grandmother in Oklahoma, Stanley and four of his brothers had found themselves in the medical marijuana business after moving to Colorado. Almost as an experiment, they bred a low-THC, high-CBD plant after hearing it could fight tumors.

http://www.nydailynews.com/lif...nt-article-1.1619066

Because the dope heads don't want it if it doesn't get them high. So much for their 'medical needs'. People still have to read and research, then decide if they want to give it to their child.

Excerpt:

Ray Mirazabegian, an optician in Glendale, Calif., brought Charlotte’s Web to his state, where medical marijuana is legal. He convinced the Stanley brothers to give him some seeds he could use to treat his 9-year-old daughter Emily, who spent her days slumped on the couch. Now, she’s running, jumping and talking. Mirazabegian is cloning the Charlotte’s Web seeds and has opened the California branch of the Stanleys’ foundation.

 

 

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Originally Posted by jtdavis:

it's no big deal to take 30 minutes a day to read and post here. At least I shut it off and go to bed at night. Of course I am here late if working on the website. Work, that four letter word you demmies hate. Apparently you are here all day and night from the looks of it so we can be assured you aren't getting any work done.

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This post makes 3 on this topic for me. Your total is 8. You accuse me of being on here a lot.

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Has nothing to do with how many posts one makes. Doesn't change the fact you post all hours of the day and night, yet try to talk about me, when I might spend 30 minutes a day here.

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Has nothing to do with how many posts one makes. Doesn't change the fact you post all hours of the day and night, yet try to talk about me, when I might spend 30 minutes a day here.

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Would you mind posting what "all hours of the day and night" are. I looked at the "see all" on times daily posts. According to it, in the last 24 hours, I have posted 7 times, you have posted 19 times. Part of your posts are as long as a Bill Gray post. Some are shorter. Your shortest ones are longer than my longest posts. You say you spend 30 min a day posting, that would be 1 1/2 min per post. You are fast.

Go ahead and post what "all hours of the day and night" are.

I approve use of marijuana for recreational use, but especially for medicinal use. I firmly believe that it will take years , once removed from Schedule 1 , for scientist to figure out all the good that can medically be obtained from this one, simple plant that was known to be used as long ago as 10,000 BC.  To date, not one single person has had a death attributed to MJ useage. 
I know from my past useage that it is pretty rough on your throat , but word is that the MJ today is much stronger, so maybe that is not as much a problem,. and of course the water pipe made all that a lot better even back then.
I personally can't understand why so many people seem to be opposed to it's total decriminalization, except for a few groups who make millions of dollars off of it being illegal like :
Private prisons, police  who "assume" that if you have any fairly large amt of cash on you, you obviously got it from drug actions and seize it - no actual drugs needed , and actual theft of property by police where drugs are found. , Big Pharma obviously don't want it legalized as it has been found to actually a lot of diseases that they would prefer to "treat" for a fist full of dollars every week.
Yes, there really are sorry azzed people who want to keep people suffering , all for their god, the dollar bill.

 

Jack Flash, in reply to your question. "jt, do you not know how many hours are in the day and night??"

If you would take time to read where that came from, you would not be asking dumb questions. Best accused (falsely) me of posting "all hours of the day and night". I wanted to know what she was calling, all hours of the day and night. She hasn't answered.

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