What did they do to get kicked out of a hoot and holler church? Puke in the baptismal pool?
quote:Originally posted by Bill Gray:
Shouting, you mentioned in another post that it bothered you that some folks in church made remarks about the clothes you choose to wear to church. How would you handle it if these people began to shout at you, reviling you in front of all the church? This is basically what Neal does to anyone who worships differently than him. How would you suggest we handle his insults, anger, and hatred?
Even Jesus got angry at the money changers in the Temple. How do you suppose He would handle one who spews anger and hatred to others?
God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,
Bill
Personally, to me, it is just their opinion. I do not let them get that much too me. They are intitled to their opinions...do I agree with them? Well not exactly...but I am not going to push them either. I will state my peace and my beliefs in a civil manner and if they want to join in then they should feel more than welcome too. I will never ever attack someone because they do not necessarily agree with me...this is what I feel like you are doing. Just chill out a little bit...basically just back off a bit. Its just opinions...everyones intitled to their own.
quote:Originally posted by IamShouting!:quote:Originally posted by Bill Gray:
Shouting, you mentioned in another post that it bothered you that some folks in church made remarks about the clothes you choose to wear to church. How would you handle it if these people began to shout at you, reviling you in front of all the church? This is basically what Neal does to anyone who worships differently than him. How would you suggest we handle his insults, anger, and hatred?
Even Jesus got angry at the money changers in the Temple. How do you suppose He would handle one who spews anger and hatred to others?
God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,
Bill
Personally, to me, it is just their opinion. I do not let them get that much too me. They are intitled to their opinions...do I agree with them? Well not exactly...but I am not going to push them either. I will state my peace and my beliefs in a civil manner and if they want to join in then they should feel more than welcome too. I will never ever attack someone because they do not necessarily agree with me...this is what I feel like you are doing. Just chill out a little bit...basically just back off a bit. Its just opinions...everyones intitled to their own.
Hi Shouting,
Actually, over the last several years; most of the time I have ignored Neal. Normally, I will only respond to his post when I feel he is misleading new believers or new seekers with his false teachings.
Yet, I am not the only one who has taken offense at his always offensive posts. But, you are right -- that, for the most part, we should just ignore him.
God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,
Bill
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quote:And, basically, this is my approach with Neal
You do not have the authority to ask Neal to leave the fellowship. Nor do I believe that Shouting said he plans to ignore Neal. Don't put words in peoples mouths.
There are many people on this forum I daresay who highly value his posts. He is a well-educated and extremely well read man.
He, like others, get very frustrated by your constant "claims of right-ness". You are judgemental and deceptive. You speak with false authority, and reject anyone that disagrees with you.
Neal has just as much right to speak freely on this forum as you do.
You don't like what he says? I happen to think he speaks the Truth. Moreso than you. And I welcome and look forward to his wit, intelligence and insight.
You should, too. You could learn a lot from Neal.quote:Originally posted by vplee123:quote:And, basically, this is my approach with Neal
You do not have the authority to ask Neal to leave the fellowship. Nor do I believe that Shouting said he plans to ignore Neal. Don't put words in peoples mouths.
There are many people on this forum I daresay who highly value his posts. He is a well-educated and extremely well read man.
He, like others, get very frustrated by your constant "claims of right-ness". You are judgemental and deceptive. You speak with false authority, and reject anyone that disagrees with you.
Neal has just as much right to speak freely on this forum as you do.
You don't like what he says? I happen to think he speaks the Truth. Moreso than you. And I welcome and look forward to his wit, intelligence and insight.
MY, MY, YOU LIBERALS DO STICK TOGETHER!
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LOL at being called a Liberal.That's a first!
You, who claim to be so intelligent sure can be dense!
But yeah, my brother Neal deserves defense for sure. I'm sure there are many more that would defend his postitions. You could learn something.
You attack him all the time, and many of the forum readers would read the post without names and assume it was about you.
But that's ok. Whatever gets you through the day..... sticks and stones,Bill.
You, who claim to be so intelligent sure can be dense!
But yeah, my brother Neal deserves defense for sure. I'm sure there are many more that would defend his postitions. You could learn something.
You attack him all the time, and many of the forum readers would read the post without names and assume it was about you.
But that's ok. Whatever gets you through the day..... sticks and stones,Bill.
Thank you for "showing yourself" again, to our readers.
The Baptists are not "conservative Christians" by definition they are part of the Radical Reformation.
I am a very conservative Christian: I believe that the Words of Our Lord and His example, His parables, His incarnation, birth, teaching, passion, death, and resurrection and ascension are the key points of Christianity. Not arguing over extra-biblical worries about the end of the world, the meaning of Holy Communion or baptism. Our Lord said, This is my body" and "this is my blood" and "do this in memory of me." He also said to go out into the world and teach His doctrine and baptize people for the remission of sins.
I do not care how the world began, by faith I accept that God created all worlds seen and unseen, how long that took is a matter of parsing whether Genesis is literal or a metaphor. It came into existence. It exists now. Christ lived and lives now in Glory. He will come again to judge the living and the dead. How, when, or how many times I do not know, nor do I care. The world will be destroyed by fire. The Kingdom of God is not of this world. Our Lord said to let he without sin to cast the first stone. The parable of the Good Samaritan is a key point in Christianity as is "return good for evil" and "blessed are the peacemakers."
There is a duty Our Lord enjoined upon us and that is that we might be one as He and the Father are one. That and the tenets of a new morality.
I am so conservative a Christian that I dare not put words in God's mouth and claim that a week is a year and that Og means Iraq and Magog Iran or whatever the current interpretations are in vogue at the moment.
Now, who is a conservative Christian?
I am a very conservative Christian: I believe that the Words of Our Lord and His example, His parables, His incarnation, birth, teaching, passion, death, and resurrection and ascension are the key points of Christianity. Not arguing over extra-biblical worries about the end of the world, the meaning of Holy Communion or baptism. Our Lord said, This is my body" and "this is my blood" and "do this in memory of me." He also said to go out into the world and teach His doctrine and baptize people for the remission of sins.
I do not care how the world began, by faith I accept that God created all worlds seen and unseen, how long that took is a matter of parsing whether Genesis is literal or a metaphor. It came into existence. It exists now. Christ lived and lives now in Glory. He will come again to judge the living and the dead. How, when, or how many times I do not know, nor do I care. The world will be destroyed by fire. The Kingdom of God is not of this world. Our Lord said to let he without sin to cast the first stone. The parable of the Good Samaritan is a key point in Christianity as is "return good for evil" and "blessed are the peacemakers."
There is a duty Our Lord enjoined upon us and that is that we might be one as He and the Father are one. That and the tenets of a new morality.
I am so conservative a Christian that I dare not put words in God's mouth and claim that a week is a year and that Og means Iraq and Magog Iran or whatever the current interpretations are in vogue at the moment.
Now, who is a conservative Christian?
quote:Originally posted by Aude Sapere:
There is a duty Our Lord enjoined upon us and that is that we might be one as He and the Father are one. That and the tenets of a new morality.
Hi All,
Can you believe it? Neal has finally agreed to have civil dialogues WITHOUT name calling, denigration, cursing, and defamation!
See, I told you that God answers prayers!
God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,
Bill
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Billy, I give you all the respect your fantasies of self-importance and lunacy of trying to pass off lies as truth. I call 'em like I see 'em. But at least I say when I am posting opinion or that of another and that it is opinion, I do not press any belief upon anyone.
Yes, I have a sharp tongue, but you have a scorpion stinger with a butterfly's costume. I can read between lines and am very, very accurate at analyzing writing and author's true intent as opposed to its stated.
I find all that Rapture and Tribulation stuff silly and tiresome and frankly, vaguely disturbing at a theological as well as personal level. I find it selfish and 180 degrees twisted of the examples of the martyrs and Our Lord. They got no out. They stood firm in the day of tribulation. I cannot accept something so recent of origin as having any authority over any Christian at all, things that require a single understanding of what prophetic language means.
I find the idea of "instant salvation" rather crude and too much of Calvin. At least he made them sweat for hours on end all week in church and question their "salvation" and then just burnt those who disagreed, so that does not sit well on my mind for a "reformer."
Frankly, Bill, you are to Christianity what Henry VIII was for marriage, my opinion, of course, some might liken you to another.
I don't care about hoot and holler churches. I just want nothing to do with them. I dislike adults acting oddly in front of children. I will download or buy my rock and roll and unless it is U2 find it of little use in church. My taste, again.
I find lying very, very offensive and claiming to know mysteries the height of hubris.
But frankly I find you oddly fascinating, as I have stated before. I cannot decide if I believe you to be mentally ill or parrot. It is like watching from a RR overpass as a school bus is stranded and instead of evacuating the children, merely keeps on giving it more gas as the express speeds to the inevitable end. One can do nothing to stop it, but is it possible to merely speed up and not even look in the mirror?
Yes, I have a sharp tongue, but you have a scorpion stinger with a butterfly's costume. I can read between lines and am very, very accurate at analyzing writing and author's true intent as opposed to its stated.
I find all that Rapture and Tribulation stuff silly and tiresome and frankly, vaguely disturbing at a theological as well as personal level. I find it selfish and 180 degrees twisted of the examples of the martyrs and Our Lord. They got no out. They stood firm in the day of tribulation. I cannot accept something so recent of origin as having any authority over any Christian at all, things that require a single understanding of what prophetic language means.
I find the idea of "instant salvation" rather crude and too much of Calvin. At least he made them sweat for hours on end all week in church and question their "salvation" and then just burnt those who disagreed, so that does not sit well on my mind for a "reformer."
Frankly, Bill, you are to Christianity what Henry VIII was for marriage, my opinion, of course, some might liken you to another.
I don't care about hoot and holler churches. I just want nothing to do with them. I dislike adults acting oddly in front of children. I will download or buy my rock and roll and unless it is U2 find it of little use in church. My taste, again.
I find lying very, very offensive and claiming to know mysteries the height of hubris.
But frankly I find you oddly fascinating, as I have stated before. I cannot decide if I believe you to be mentally ill or parrot. It is like watching from a RR overpass as a school bus is stranded and instead of evacuating the children, merely keeps on giving it more gas as the express speeds to the inevitable end. One can do nothing to stop it, but is it possible to merely speed up and not even look in the mirror?
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Aude Sapere:
Frankly, Bill, you are to Christianity what Henry VIII was for marriage,
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Frankly, Bill, you are to Christianity what Henry VIII was for marriage,
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OMG
ROFLMFAO
AWEsome!!
i'm stealign that line, that was beautiful.....