Hi Deep,

 

You got that a wee bit confused, my Friend.   Either one believes in the God of the Bible, the Creator -- or one believes in the gods of atheism, the gods of Nothing.   I am a Creationist.   You are a Nothingnist.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

Hi B,

 

Since you have stated emphatically in another post that YOU ARE NOT A CHRISTIAN -- I suppose you can claim to believe in gods.  You can even claim to believe in Deep's gods of his Religion of Nothing -- or you can call upon your New Age gods or your Wicca gods.

 

However, I will stay a Creationist who believes in the one God of the Bible.  But, thank you for your concern.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

Originally Posted by Unobtanium:

A reminder: Xtians believe in 5 gods: Yahweh, Jesus, Holy Spirit, Mary and Satan.  .... With a few demigods tossed in for good measure such a Gabriel and other angels.

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Thanks uno, for showing your complete ignorance and stupidity, not to mention

your lying, in as little as 27 words. but thats about all you can do about it.

 

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I believe in the God that created the Heavens and the earth. The very same one that was sent by His father to die for our sins. The same one that was murdered by his own people for a crime he did not commit. The same one that hung on on Old Rugged Cross and bled and died for yours and my sins. The same one that now sits at the right hand of Father God. The very same one that some day will come again for his people sitting on a white horse. The same one that all believers In Him will spend eternity with. His name is Jesus Christ and he loves us beyond our comprehension. I wish you would accept Him today before it's to late.

Originally Posted by I am the Fireman:

I believe in the God that created the Heavens and the earth. The very same one that was sent by His father to die for our sins. The same one that was murdered by his own people for a crime he did not commit. The same one that hung on on Old Rugged Cross and bled and died for yours and my sins. The same one that now sits at the right hand of Father God. The very same one that some day will come again for his people sitting on a white horse. The same one that all believers In Him will spend eternity with. His name is Jesus Christ and he loves us beyond our comprehension. I wish you would accept Him today before it's to late.

Oh Jesus, I thought you were going to say Mithra. 

Oh really? Name one of my sins. I don't think people should die for me, you on the other hand must be so bad you think it calls for death, someone elses death that is. I say you should stand up and take your own blame instead of letting someone else be punished for you.

Bestworking, where do you think your freedom came from? Battles that were fought before you were even born where men and women died for the very freedom you enjoy now. You still enjoy your freedom at anothers expense. Same thing for Jesus. No, you didn't ask Jesus to die for you no more than you asked those thousands of servicemen to die so you could have freedom but the fact remains that SOMEONE DID DIE FOR YOU so that you could live a free person.

quote:  Originally Posted by Jennifer Bestworking:

Oh really?  Name one of my sins.  I don't think people should die for me, you on the other hand must be so bad you think it calls for death, someone elses death that is.  I say you should stand up and take your own blame instead of letting someone else be punished for you.


Hi Jennifer,

 

You really have ONLY ONE sin for which you WILL stand judgment.  What is that one sin?  It is the sin of denying God.   Whether you adamantly believe He does not exist -- or whether you will admit, to yourself, that He does indeed exist, but, you just do not want Him in your life -- THAT IS DENYING GOD.

 

And, that is the one sin for which you WILL be convicted.   Does it matter that you will have to only answer for that one sin?   Well, let's take the case of a fictional serial murderer.   He has killed over 100 people; but, is convicted and executed for killing only one of those people.  Does it matter to him that he was convicted and executed for only one murder -- or should he demand his day in court for all 100 murders? 

 

He can only be convicted and executed once. 

 

And, you can only be judged and condemned by your personally chosen lifestyle once.  You choose to deny God; you choose to spend eternity in hell.  It is that simple.

 

How can YOU blame anyone but YOURSELF?  YOU are choosing this eternal home.  He is not choosing it for you.  YOU are given the ability and the right, i.e., "free will" -- to choose you own eternal home -- and YOU are, to date, choosing to spend eternity in hell -- YOUR CHOICE.   And, my Friend, you will have to live with that choice -- eternally.

 

Yes, Jennifer, you can huff and puff -- declaring that I, or some other Christians, are condemning you to hell.   No so, my Friend.  This is 100% YOUR choice.  No one will, or can, make this decision for you.  I cannot, no one can -- only you

 

All we are doing is telling the spiritually blind person that he/she is walking toward a cliff.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

Originally Posted by Bill Gray:
 

 

How can YOU blame anyone but YOURSELF?  YOU are choosing this eternal home.  He is not choosing it for you.  YOU are given the ability and the right, i.e., "free will" -- to choose you own eternal home -- and YOU are, to date, choosing to spend eternity in hell -- YOUR CHOICE.   And, my Friend, you will have to live with that choice -- eternally.

 

Yes, Jennifer, you can huff and puff -- declaring that I, or some other Christians, are condemning you to hell.   No so, my Friend.  This is 100% YOUR choice.  No one will, or can, make this decision for you.  I cannot, no one can -- only you

 


 

Bill


We all know its hot as Hades in Hell, but what about the humidity?  Is it a dry heat?

quote: Originally Posted by Mr.Dittohead:

Sevicemen dont ask for eternal supplication, nor a 10% gratuity for their work.  Churches are FULL of sinners, that why I don't go.


Hi Ditto,

 

True, churches are full of sinners, mostly "forgiven sinners" -- and hypocrites.   But, not to worry, we can always accommodate one more.  We will make room for YOU, one more hypocrite will not break the bank.

 

On the other hand, that could be ONLY an excuse, right?   Sort of like the young kid who does not like brocolli, "But, mommy, that brocolli will cause me to have pimples!"  And, super intelligent, all knowing mommy tells you, "Not to worry.  I have the right medicine to cure your pimples."

 

Ditto, God has the right medicine to cure your disbelief and even to cure the hypocrisy of excuse making to avoid going to church.  You can read about it in the Bible -- and, it is a sure cure for all who will take the medicine faithfully.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

quote:  Originally Posted by Jennifer Bestworking:

Servicemen dying for freedom is not the same as your claim that someone died for imaginary "sins." 


Hi Jennifer,

 

Then, since "sins" are imaginary -- are you telling us that YOU have never sinned?  Really?  Have you never done anything wrong -- never taken a paper clip which did not belong to you -- never spoke badly of another -- never looked at a man or boy with lustful thoughts -- never received an overpayment on a check or from a store clerk, and did not report it or make the correction -- never cursed  another -- have never drunk too much alcohol -- never spoke evil or in anger against people of another ethnic group or race?

 

Of course, we could go on.  But, can YOU say that YOU have never done any of this?   If so, you must be Jesus Christ -- for only He was and is the perfect human. 

 

No, Jennifer, sins are not imaginary.   We, as humans, have two kinds of sin.  First is our "sin nature" which we inherited from Adam.  And, second, are the thousands upon thousands of sins we commit every day of our lives.  

 

Jesus Christ came to earth in a human body to purchase, through His perfect blood, a "full pardon" for our sin nature -- and to provide an avenue through which we can, daily, gain forgiveness for our many sins.  All a person has to do to be set free from his/her sin prison is to accept His "paid in full" pardon and walk out of that sin prison cell which has been binding the person all his/her life.  

 

The cell door is standing open, the "full pardon" has been paid -- and, yet, many folks just keep sitting in their sin nature cell as though they were bound by shackles.  No, my Friend, the shackles were removed by the blood of Jesus Christ.  You are free to walk into eternal freedom in Christ.  But, YOU have to make that choice.

 

Yes, Jennifer, you are a sinner.  But, your pardon has been paid. 


Why are you still sitting in that cell?

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

Then, since "sins" are imaginary -- are you telling us that YOU have never sinned?  Really?  Have you never done anything wrong -- never taken a paper clip which did not belong to you -- never spoke badly of another -- never looked at a man or boy with lustful thoughts -- never received an overpayment on a check or from a store clerk, and did not report it or make the correction -- never cursed  another -- have never drunk too much alcohol -- never spoke evil or in anger against people of another ethnic group or race?

 

 

 

 

You mean all the things you do?  Using your logic you are done for. And I can honestly say I have never looked at a boy with lust.

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

Jesus The Counterfeit Sacrifice And Priest:

 

http://agnosticreview.com/counterfeitpriest.htm

No the New Testament does claim children are born with sins:

The New Testament proclamations that Jesus was God's perfect sacrifice for the sins of the world and that Jesus fulfilled the law in this regard are simply blatant misrepresentations of the Old Testament teachings.

One of the key assertions of the New Testament (NT) writers was the concept of "original" sin. This doctrine claims that sin is hereditary and is passed to all humans through Adam.While the Old Testament (OT) indicates man has an inclination to sin, it is does not originate from one person (Adam). The NT verses which establish this doctrine leave no room for anyone to escape this hereditary sin from Adam.

 

 

http://agnosticreview.com/counterfeitpriest.htm

 

BELOW is what is said about children.

Jesus Himself said: “Let the little children come to Me, and do not forbid them; for of such is the kingdom of God” (Mark 10:14, emp. added). Paul declared that none who are unclean can enter into the kingdom of heaven (Ephesians 5:5). Jesus added: “[U]nless you are converted and become as little children, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven” (Matthew 18:3, emp. added). If children come to the world with a “fallen human nature and tainted by original sin” (to use the words of the Catechism), why would men have to become as little children, who are also “contaminated” with sin? The Bible is clear: sin is not inherited. No baby has ever been born bearing the guilt of Adam’s sin. No one bears the responsibility for Adam’s sin but Adam himself.

 

 

http://www.apologeticspress.org/apcontent.aspx?category=105&article=2697

Ya know, 5000 babies have died just in the last hour.  Starvation, accidents, abuse, you name it. They generally died horribly.

 

If Jesus is so concerned about kids, why does he let that happen?

This single fact is why even if you proved a God existed today, I would still NEVER bow down and worship such an evil, spiteful being. I don't see how you folks sleep with yourselves.

Why don't you just start numbering them, Unob? It would save so much trouble.

 

1) Christians are deluded

2) God doesn't exist, but He's a tyrant

3) Christianity is waning

4) If I take these verses out of context, they contradict each other

5) Christians have killed lots of people but atheists never harmed anyone

 

See? There's a starter for you. Now you can just post the number instead of having to write it out. And you can STILL ignore the answers we give you, just like you always have.

Originally Posted by Unobtanium:

Ya know, 5000 babies have died just in the last hour.  Starvation, accidents, abuse, you name it. They generally died horribly.

 

If Jesus is so concerned about kids, why does he let that happen?


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Those are just the ones that are born.  God ends 15-20% of all known pregnancies, and no telling how many he chooses to end before the mother is aware that she is pregnant.

 

Originally Posted by O No!:

Why do YOU allow it, Jennifer? There are charities you know, or you could go there yourself and try to help. Oh yeah, wait a minute, you're the one who believes we should only help people in THIS country. Never mind.

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If atheists were in charge, there would be widespread availability of birth control.  Thanks to your god and your religion, condoms and any other form of birth control is no allowable.  

I do as much as I can locally.  I hope that other will be inspired and do the same. If we all pitched in a little this world will be a better place.  But that's ok, I'm sure you will pray for these starving little children and beg your god to get off his fat butt and actually do something about it.  

Originally Posted by CrustyMac:
Originally Posted by Unobtanium:

Ya know, 5000 babies have died just in the last hour.  Starvation, accidents, abuse, you name it. They generally died horribly.

 

If Jesus is so concerned about kids, why does he let that happen?


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Those are just the ones that are born.  God ends 15-20% of all known pregnancies, and no telling how many he chooses to end before the mother is aware that she is pregnant.

 

 

Studies have shown about half the fertilized eggs do not attach to the uterine wall, or if they do, they are lost in the monthly cycle.

 

I really have no idea how Muslims feel about birth control. Most starving African children are born to Muslim parents. That doesn't mean that many of the "kids" I know practice birth control. It has nothing to do with religion; they're just too "bright" to realize they need to.

I don't know why christians want to talk the talk but balk when it comes to actually walking the walk. Here we have ohno presuming to know who does or does not give to charities. I will admit to being very cautious about which charities we support. Like most everyone we try to help all legitimate organizations. St. Judes and UCP are the major two that we have supported for years. It's not me but the churches you christians love so much that has the BILLIONS of dollars on hand that could do some good in this world if they really wanted to.

Best,

 

At his peak, Jimmy Bakker had gold bathroom fixtures and air-conditioned dog houses.  How many starving Children in Africa, South America, Asia, and on Indian Reservations here in the US could those extravagances have helped?

 

But what if he had donated every dollar above what he needed for a modest existence?  Would it have made a substantial difference?

 

No.

 

The problem is much more complicated than that.  The problem of dying kids in Third World Countries is a matter of superstition, culture, tribalism, bad traditions, suspicion, poor sanitation regarding water and wastewater,poverty, misogyny, tyranny, theocracy, and other ailments of the human condition.  It is not our position to enforce enlightenment onto anyone.  We are privileged to offer it, but that's where it should end.

 

The Bush Doctrine of imposing democracy and capitalism onto peoples who actively reject it is asinine.  Yet, it endures.

 

Go figure.

 

DF

 

"But what if he had donated every dollar above what he needed for a modest existence?  Would it have made a substantial difference?" [deep]

 

NS that is a very good question. i wonder if you really understand what you asked?

 

Ns, if you will engage yourself in the study of ideas other than a disposition for God you will not find yourself left behind so often.

I know it has been the argument of atheism that religion is responsible for world problems. You are looking at pieces of a problem when current science is that of a holistic view.

Religion is not the problem it is a self medication which results from a lack of a world view and necessary dialog . When the necessary dialog is not present between societies the result is to seek some thing that fulfills and gives a society some reason to go on in adverse conditions.

I’m not making a list of these conditions but poverty is high on the list and that is not produced by religion or a belief in God.

I’m not sure what part of a holistic view I’m prepared to participate in myself. I do know there is a necessity for it on a serious level.

NSNS, I'll have to look for the link but according to one source 30 billion a year would wipe out world hunger. The problem of hunger in the world has been going on long before Bush was born, same with the problem of the US pushing in where it shouldn't be. Vietnam is one example of that and it was the democrat's war. And let us not forget clinton's "wag the dog" war. But this isn't politics so I'll stop for now.

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

According to the United Nations' Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO), it would only take $30 billion a year to launch the necessary agricultural programs to completely solve global food insecurity. Severe hunger afflicts 862 million people each year, could $30 billion save them?

 

 

Sorry, no cigar!  A 2006 fairy tale from a loony UN hack? The fact that it comes from the U.N. should have alerted you...

Back to the chalkboard, Einstein.

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

Well gee ellie, since you have ALL the answers why don't you share? Surely one of your personas could have contributed something worthwhile after all this time.

 

 

Talking to you is like talking to a rock...only the rock has a possibility of being polished at some time. You will always be a rube.

Ellie, when have you ever tried to "talk" to me or anyone else on these forums? You keep trying to get my attention anyway you can but your problem is you don't like what I "say" to you when you do get a response. It's actually funny to be called a rube by you. If you've ever had an original or witty thought creep into that simple mind of yours it died of loneliness before you could get it out. You're just low hanging fruit.

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

Ellie, when have you ever tried to "talk" to me or anyone else on these forums? You keep trying to get my attention anyway you can but your problem is you don't like what I "say" to you when you do get a response. It's actually funny to be called a rube by you. If you've ever had an original or witty thought creep into that simple mind of yours it died of loneliness before you could get it out. You're just low hanging fruit.

 Fail. Simpleton.

Your ignorance is amusing.

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

You know ellie, you could be considered a dangerous weapon because I believe you could actually bore someone to death. SSDD with you, you're a one trick pony.

 

Be careful you don't overload that small brain struggling to try and find snappy quotes online.

No matter how you deliver them, you are still exposed as the total ignoranus that you are.

Remember, you can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear...Oinker.

Originally Posted by Not Shallow Not Slim:

$30B is a lot of money.  Why, it's what we spend in Afghanistan imposing democracy onto savages for what?  A week or two?

 

Our priorities are misplaced, that's for sure.

 

DF

See there DeepFat pseudo-speciation of people is not that hard now is it?

I consider atheists less-than-human.

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

According to the United Nations' Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO), it would only take $30 billion a year to launch the necessary agricultural programs to completely solve global food insecurity.

 

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Best,

 

I believe that to be a fallacious argument.  You do not control world hunger by feeding more people which is why I do not (and never will) support any of those hunger programs I see on TV.  You control world hunger by birth control and education.

Nature has a really cool way of shutting down the reproductive system of a woman who is very hungry.  Feed all of those who are very hungry and you wake up the reproductive system resulting in more mouths to feed.  At best, the scenario you cited would feed a few for a few years then the horrible cycle would ramp-up again with even more deaths.

Originally Posted by Unobtanium:
Originally Posted by Bestworking:

According to the United Nations' Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO), it would only take $30 billion a year to launch the necessary agricultural programs to completely solve global food insecurity.

 

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Best,

 

I believe that to be a fallacious argument.  You do not control world hunger by feeding more people which is why I do not (and never will) support any of those hunger programs I see on TV.  You control world hunger by birth control and education.

Nature has a really cool way of shutting down the reproductive system of a woman who is very hungry.  Feed all of those who are very hungry and you wake up the reproductive system resulting in more mouths to feed.  At best, the scenario you cited would feed a few for a few years then the horrible cycle would ramp-up again with even more deaths.

 

 

I agree and disagree. I think it will take a joint effort. Birth control and education is a very important part of the puzzle, but you have to be able to hold your head up and not be so weak you can't walk to be able to learn. Teaching a village to be self sufficient and starting a sound agricultural program is the first step. Religion once again plays a huge role in the birth control issue. Until they are educated and can see beyond the archaic ideals of religion you will never be able to get them to use effective birth control.

 

I can't imagine that 30 billion would not be worth the effort to stop world hunger. Yes those that benefited from eating on a daily basis would be healthier and would probably reproduce. We are no where near a crisis when it comes to over population. Why not teach them and assist them in growing and producing their own foods and let them decide how many children they want to have? Once they have overcome hunger they could very well be capable of taking care of their own at that point.

 

When you are hungry, nothing else matters. When you have food, then you can began to think about other things and learn and grow in different directions.

Starvation so far hasn't stopped reproduction and I would be the first one to say give them birth control. I wonder myself how they keep having babies when they're all so malnourished, and if they have a clue about birth control, which you'd think surely they would, why do they keep having those babies just to watch them starve.

The people most likely to see their children starve to death are those who are encouraged, at the pain of Hell, to reproduce.  They are the ones who the Catholic missionaries tell that condoms increase AIDS.  As Mother Theresa called them, they are "poorest or the poor".  And she liked them that way.  In that way, she and the Catholic Church can manipulate them to create life that is bound to suffer.  Suffering is of little consequence to Christians.  It's almost a sacrament.  Perhaps it's precisely  a sacrament.

In any case, it's cruel and mean and deliberate and consummately Christian.

 

DF

As Mother Theresa called them, they are "poorest or the poor".  And she liked them that way.  In that way, she and the Catholic Church can manipulate them to create life that is bound to suffer.  Suffering is of little consequence to Christians.  It's almost a sacrament.  Perhaps it's precisely  a sacrament.

In any case, it's cruel and mean and deliberate and consummately Christian.

 

Glad you approve. Really, could you try to paint religion any worse than you do?

If hunger and poverty could be cured by throwing money at the problem, it would have been solved long ago.  If it were just about growing enough food, hunger could have been cured with the onset of the industrial revolution. 

 

Fundamental changes in a multitude of systems, organizations, and governments will be required to solve these problems.  Basic ideologies will have to undergo radical change. 

quote:    Originally Posted by Deep Not Shallow Not Slim:

The people most likely to see their children starve to death are those who are encouraged, at the pain of Hell, to reproduce.  They are the ones who the Catholic missionaries tell that condoms increase AIDS.  As Mother Theresa called them, they are "poorest or the poor".  And she liked them that way.  In that way, she and the Catholic Church can manipulate them to create life that is bound to suffer.  Suffering is of little consequence to Christians.  It's almost a sacrament.  Perhaps it's precisely  a sacrament.  In any case, it's cruel and mean and deliberate and consummately Christian.  DF


Hi Deep,


No, my Friend, this is your extremely weak argument in favor of "murder by abortion" -- and our discussions on abortion have to do  with places like California, New York, and other major U.S. cities where Murder, Inc, i.e., "Planned Parenthood" runs amok.  Not in countries where people are starving to death such as on the African continent.  

Actually, if the U.S. government would stop giving money to Planned Parenthood -- and put those millions to work feeding people in  poor countries -- that would be a much better use of our funds.  And, that will save lives instead of taking lives.

So, no, it is not the reproducing that bothers us near as much as it is the killing of the babies BEFORE they even have a chance to  experience life.

Therefore, Deep, my Friend -- you live as "gaily" as you like -- but, please do not expect us to condone nor approve of that or of the "murder by abortion" you advocate.

God bless,  have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

Birth control is not abortion bill. As far as spending money on the needy, if the churches actually did that instead of buying property, building monster churches and all the other bells and whistles that you all love so much some good might actually be done. Some life those babies get to experience bill. Would you like for your children or grandchildren to have that same life??

 hunger

 

Originally Posted by b50m:

As Mother Theresa called them, they are "poorest or the poor".  And she liked them that way.  In that way, she and the Catholic Church can manipulate them to create life that is bound to suffer.  Suffering is of little consequence to Christians.  It's almost a sacrament.  Perhaps it's precisely  a sacrament.

In any case, it's cruel and mean and deliberate and consummately Christian.

 

Glad you approve. Really, could you try to paint religion any worse than you do?

I could.  But I keep certain things in reserve.

 

DF

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

Birth control is not abortion bill. As far as spending money on the needy, if the churches actually did that instead of buying property, building monster churches and all the other bells and whistles that you all love so much some good might actually be done. Some life those babies get to experience bill. Would you like for your children or grandchildren to have that same life??

 hunger

 

Best, I recently submitted a bid to build a Catholic Church.  Magnificent building, I'll admit, but unnecessarily expensive.  It's almost as though the architect asked herself: How can I make this 25,000 SF building more expensive?  Seriously.

 

On a square foot basis, it was easily four times the norm for commercial construction.  To whose glory is this edifice being built?  God's, or the parishioners of a wealthy community in SoCal?  Certainly not meek Jesus.  From what I understand of the Jesus myth, the Nazarene carpenter would be embarrassed that this display of conspicuous consumption was being built in his name, while people within 10 miles are starving.

 

I often consider that atheists are better christians than Christians.  I'm becoming convinced of it.

 

DF

You see who got the "lion's share" and who knows how much more they took in that isn't known.

 

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2010 Contributions By Type of Recipient Organization
  
  Religion  $100.63 billion
  Education  $41.67 billion
  Gifts to Foundations*  $33 billion
  Human Services  $26.49 billion
  Public-Society Benefit  $24.24 billion
  Health  $22.83 billion
  International Affairs  $15.77 billion
  Arts, Culture & Humanities  $13.28 billion
  Environment & Animals  $6.66 billion
  Foundation Grants to Individuals  $4.20 billion
  Unallocated  $2.12 billion

*Estimate developed jointly by Foundation Center and Giving USA

Giving USA also surveyed charitable organizations to find out how gifts changed from the previous year.

Among the report findings:

  • Faith-based charities, including churches, received the most charitable gifts in 2010, capturing $100.63 billion – 35 percent of total contributions in 2010. Religious groups received more than a third of all contributions in the U.S. Faith-based donations increased 0.8 percent from the previous year.
  • Charitable giving to colleges, universities and educational organizations accounted for the second largest share of all charitable giving at 14 percent. Educational institutions and organizations received $41.67 billion in gifts. Charitable giving to the education subsector increased by an estimated 5.2 percent in 2010. This follows a drop of 5.6 percent in 2009.

http://www.nps.gov/partnership...duals_statistics.htm

Originally Posted by Not Shallow Not Slim:

The people most likely to see their children starve to death are those who are encouraged, at the pain of Hell, to reproduce.  They are the ones who the Catholic missionaries tell that condoms increase AIDS.  As Mother Theresa called them, they are "poorest or the poor".  And she liked them that way.  In that way, she and the Catholic Church can manipulate them to create life that is bound to suffer.  Suffering is of little consequence to Christians.  It's almost a sacrament.  Perhaps it's precisely  a sacrament.

In any case, it's cruel and mean and deliberate and consummately Christian.

 

DF

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The above comment is absolute filth!!!!!!

 

Mother Teresa started with a school in the slums to teach the children of the poor. She also learned basic medicine and went into the homes of the sick to treat them. In 1949, some of her former pupils joined her. They found men, women, and children dying on the streets who were rejected by local hospitals. The group rented a room so they could care for helpless people otherwise condemned to die in the gutter.


Atheism promotes starvation by constantly insisting scientific chasing of their tail to disprove God.

The LHC is one example. The money spent on misplaced priorities such as the LHC could save the lives of millions of potential scientists who are starving everyday. The knowledge base is being starved to death by atheism. Atheist primates are less-than-human and should be avoided at all costs. Do not let them destroy your children. NSNS is your childrens enemy.

Originally Posted by House of David:
Mother Teresa started with a school in the slums to teach the children of the poor. She also learned basic medicine and went into the homes of the sick to treat them. In 1949, some of her former pupils joined her. They found men, women, and children dying on the streets who were rejected by local hospitals. The group rented a room so they could care for helpless people otherwise condemned to die in the gutter.

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Ummm, you do know that Mother Teresa was almost as much of an atheist as I am, right?

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories...ws/main3199062.shtml 

 

Our side calls her the Patron Saint of Atheism.  

 

Originally Posted by Unobtanium:
Originally Posted by House of David:
Mother Teresa started with a school in the slums to teach the children of the poor. She also learned basic medicine and went into the homes of the sick to treat them. In 1949, some of her former pupils joined her. They found men, women, and children dying on the streets who were rejected by local hospitals. The group rented a room so they could care for helpless people otherwise condemned to die in the gutter.

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Ummm, you do know that Mother Teresa was almost as much of an atheist as I am, right?

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories...ws/main3199062.shtml 

 

Our side calls her the Patron Saint of Atheism.  

 

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She was NOT an atheist.  She experienced the dark night of the soul for a very long time.

There is a HUGE difference between the "dark night of the soul" and atheism!

Yeah, according to you atheists, not believing makes you HAPPY and believing makes miserable, living your life under threat of Hell. According to you, believing scares the little children, and atheism makes them all HAPPY.

 

So, if Mother Teresa was an ATHEIST, why does she sound so troubled? Why does it sound like she so DESPERATELY wants God in her life, if as you keep insisting, becoming an atheist is like lifting a giant weight off your shoulders?

 

Could it be that GB, Bill, and I are right, and that her soul was seeking, the way all souls do? Even YOURS?

Originally Posted by Unobtanium:
Originally Posted by House of David:
Mother Teresa started with a school in the slums to teach the children of the poor. She also learned basic medicine and went into the homes of the sick to treat them. In 1949, some of her former pupils joined her. They found men, women, and children dying on the streets who were rejected by local hospitals. The group rented a room so they could care for helpless people otherwise condemned to die in the gutter.

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Ummm, you do know that Mother Teresa was almost as much of an atheist as I am, right?

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories...ws/main3199062.shtml 

 

Our side calls her the Patron Saint of Atheism.  

 

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All the work she continued to do was for the love of God.

 

uno,,,you don't have a side, you have a void.

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