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Originally Posted by CrustyMac:
Originally Posted by Unobtanium:

Ya know, 5000 babies have died just in the last hour.  Starvation, accidents, abuse, you name it. They generally died horribly.

 

If Jesus is so concerned about kids, why does he let that happen?


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Those are just the ones that are born.  God ends 15-20% of all known pregnancies, and no telling how many he chooses to end before the mother is aware that she is pregnant.

 

 

Studies have shown about half the fertilized eggs do not attach to the uterine wall, or if they do, they are lost in the monthly cycle.

 

I really have no idea how Muslims feel about birth control. Most starving African children are born to Muslim parents. That doesn't mean that many of the "kids" I know practice birth control. It has nothing to do with religion; they're just too "bright" to realize they need to.

I don't know why christians want to talk the talk but balk when it comes to actually walking the walk. Here we have ohno presuming to know who does or does not give to charities. I will admit to being very cautious about which charities we support. Like most everyone we try to help all legitimate organizations. St. Judes and UCP are the major two that we have supported for years. It's not me but the churches you christians love so much that has the BILLIONS of dollars on hand that could do some good in this world if they really wanted to.

Best,

 

At his peak, Jimmy Bakker had gold bathroom fixtures and air-conditioned dog houses.  How many starving Children in Africa, South America, Asia, and on Indian Reservations here in the US could those extravagances have helped?

 

But what if he had donated every dollar above what he needed for a modest existence?  Would it have made a substantial difference?

 

No.

 

The problem is much more complicated than that.  The problem of dying kids in Third World Countries is a matter of superstition, culture, tribalism, bad traditions, suspicion, poor sanitation regarding water and wastewater,poverty, misogyny, tyranny, theocracy, and other ailments of the human condition.  It is not our position to enforce enlightenment onto anyone.  We are privileged to offer it, but that's where it should end.

 

The Bush Doctrine of imposing democracy and capitalism onto peoples who actively reject it is asinine.  Yet, it endures.

 

Go figure.

 

DF

 

"But what if he had donated every dollar above what he needed for a modest existence?  Would it have made a substantial difference?" [deep]

 

NS that is a very good question. i wonder if you really understand what you asked?

 

Ns, if you will engage yourself in the study of ideas other than a disposition for God you will not find yourself left behind so often.

I know it has been the argument of atheism that religion is responsible for world problems. You are looking at pieces of a problem when current science is that of a holistic view.

Religion is not the problem it is a self medication which results from a lack of a world view and necessary dialog . When the necessary dialog is not present between societies the result is to seek some thing that fulfills and gives a society some reason to go on in adverse conditions.

I’m not making a list of these conditions but poverty is high on the list and that is not produced by religion or a belief in God.

I’m not sure what part of a holistic view I’m prepared to participate in myself. I do know there is a necessity for it on a serious level.

NSNS, I'll have to look for the link but according to one source 30 billion a year would wipe out world hunger. The problem of hunger in the world has been going on long before Bush was born, same with the problem of the US pushing in where it shouldn't be. Vietnam is one example of that and it was the democrat's war. And let us not forget clinton's "wag the dog" war. But this isn't politics so I'll stop for now.

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

According to the United Nations' Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO), it would only take $30 billion a year to launch the necessary agricultural programs to completely solve global food insecurity. Severe hunger afflicts 862 million people each year, could $30 billion save them?

 

 

Sorry, no cigar!  A 2006 fairy tale from a loony UN hack? The fact that it comes from the U.N. should have alerted you...

Back to the chalkboard, Einstein.

Ellie, when have you ever tried to "talk" to me or anyone else on these forums? You keep trying to get my attention anyway you can but your problem is you don't like what I "say" to you when you do get a response. It's actually funny to be called a rube by you. If you've ever had an original or witty thought creep into that simple mind of yours it died of loneliness before you could get it out. You're just low hanging fruit.

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

Ellie, when have you ever tried to "talk" to me or anyone else on these forums? You keep trying to get my attention anyway you can but your problem is you don't like what I "say" to you when you do get a response. It's actually funny to be called a rube by you. If you've ever had an original or witty thought creep into that simple mind of yours it died of loneliness before you could get it out. You're just low hanging fruit.

 Fail. Simpleton.

Your ignorance is amusing.

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

You know ellie, you could be considered a dangerous weapon because I believe you could actually bore someone to death. SSDD with you, you're a one trick pony.

 

Be careful you don't overload that small brain struggling to try and find snappy quotes online.

No matter how you deliver them, you are still exposed as the total ignoranus that you are.

Remember, you can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear...Oinker.

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