IMO… I would tell my children that homosexuals suffer from several things that cause them to be the was they are. The first being a genetic or mental disorder and the third and much lesser cause in self-determination. It is not natural for two people of the same sex to become lovers .
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,200200,00.html
http://www.narth.com
http://www.skeptictank.org/gaygene.htm
One can tell their children anything they wish - they are your kids. The number one thing I taught my children is to respect everyones rights and dignity.
*If indeed it is a "mental disorder", which the American Psychiatric Association has determined it is not, then to mistreat people with such a "disorder" would be abuse. Wrong on many levels.
http://www.apa.org/topics/sorientation.html
*If indeed it is a "mental disorder", which the American Psychiatric Association has determined it is not, then to mistreat people with such a "disorder" would be abuse. Wrong on many levels.
http://www.apa.org/topics/sorientation.html
I just shudder to think how my mental state would be if my parents were Jetboy, TNT, or Proud Caucasian.
Like wise DL.
For all the tortured hue and cry, there is still not one thing anyone can do about gay Americans. The world is a big place.
"You don't have to live next to me, but you WILL give me my Liberty!"
I remain amused by people who obsess over sex they are not having. (This means other peoples sex lives).
"You don't have to live next to me, but you WILL give me my Liberty!"
I remain amused by people who obsess over sex they are not having. (This means other peoples sex lives).
quote:Originally posted by meanasasnake:
For all the tortured hue and cry, there is still not one thing anyone can do about gay Americans. The world is a big place.
"You don't have to live next to me, but you WILL give me my Liberty!"
I remain amused by people who obsess over sex they are not having. (This means other peoples sex lives).
Mean, some people just aren't happy unless they have someone they can hate!
quote:Originally posted by David L.:
I just shudder to think how my mental state would be if my parents were Jetboy, TNT, or Proud Caucasian.
I shutter to think about the mental state of MANY people with children.
Having worked in HHS for over 25 years, I can tell you with more than reasonable qualification that not everyone should have children.
quote:Originally posted by David L.:quote:Originally posted by meanasasnake:
For all the tortured hue and cry, there is still not one thing anyone can do about gay Americans. The world is a big place.
"You don't have to live next to me, but you WILL give me my Liberty!"
I remain amused by people who obsess over sex they are not having. (This means other peoples sex lives).
Mean, some people just aren't happy unless they have someone they can hate!
OR some sexual act they are not involved in to think about.
I haven't even watched the vidio. I've only read the forum but I can tell you that it would be just as offensive if it were a boy/girl making out. There's a time and a place for this and in a public place in the midst of people is not it! Regardless of what you might think, it doesn't make us jealous! We do the same thing but with a little more dignity by keeping it private! All you're doing is making the ones around you uncomfortable......
Agreeing with luv2shop. It doesn't matter if it is male/female, male/male, female/female, or transgender...it was a public place.
quote:Originally posted by MOBY:quote:Originally posted by CT:
lol, poor parents...having to actually talk to their children.
Is it really that hard to explain? Explain it like you would any other couple.
If you explain it like any other couple then you are going to have to get into such ugly topics as tolerance and equality. It's much better that they retain their culture of hate and ignorance.
That being said, one kiss is fine but too much public display of affection is gross and rude regardless of the couples' sexual orientation. If there was a couple in front of them "making Out", then they should have been the ones who were asked to stop.
Im with you Moby all the way. I have already talked with my children about this topic. They are 8 and 11 and had questions from things they had heard at school.
Its not a big deal. Approach everything with tolerance and love.
I will have to agree with to much PDA. Get a room.....
What happened to people holding hands to show their affection in public? I think anything more than that should be done in private or at least away from groups of kids especially.
Personally, I don't understand why people are so against gay people. They are not contaigous, They are people with different likes in life big deal. They can be some of the nicest people you could ever meet. I just woner if the ones that don't like gay people have ever got to know one on a friendship level.
Personally, I don't understand why people are so against gay people. They are not contaigous, They are people with different likes in life big deal. They can be some of the nicest people you could ever meet. I just woner if the ones that don't like gay people have ever got to know one on a friendship level.
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I just shudder to think how my mental state would be if my parents were Jetboy, TNT, or Proud Caucasian.
I wouldn't put ones parenting skills down without knowing the people personally. Just because they don't approve of something in life doesn't make them bad parents.
quote:What makes me even more ill/sad is that the strain of hate and prejudice against gays and lesbians will continue to happen due to parents teaching their children this hate.
Teaching children right from wrong is not teaching hate...I take exception to your crude remark!
quote:They are people with different likes in life big deal. They can be some of the nicest people you could ever meet.
The same could be said for drug users/dealers...serial killers...child molestors.
Your point is moot.
quote:For all the tortured hue and cry, there is still not one thing anyone can do about gay Americans. The world is a big place.
"You don't have to live next to me, but you WILL give me my Liberty!"
I will give you hell...call it what you will...even liberty!
Man Code: You do not show PDA at any sporting event.
Just because someone is gay doesn't make them bad people.
people from all walks of life can be those things jetboy. Someones sexual preference isn't what makes one go out and do these things.
people from all walks of life can be those things jetboy. Someones sexual preference isn't what makes one go out and do these things.
This thread reminds of that Seinfeld episode, "Not that there is anything wrong with that!".
I want to add that the word "gay" is an adjective, and not a noun. I can't think of reason that word should ever have an "s" at the end.
I still haven't read the article that is being discussed, so I don't know if these girls were full on making out, or simply kissing. When I see people making out in public, I do think of the old "get a room" saying, but I've never been offended by it, because I never choose to be offended. To be offended is an option I'll always pass up, and it saves me a lot of strife.
I still haven't read the article that is being discussed, so I don't know if these girls were full on making out, or simply kissing. When I see people making out in public, I do think of the old "get a room" saying, but I've never been offended by it, because I never choose to be offended. To be offended is an option I'll always pass up, and it saves me a lot of strife.
quote:Originally posted by David L.:
I just shudder to think how my mental state would be if my parents were Jetboy, TNT, or Proud Caucasian.
yea cause you'd get a whipping .
Now go get me a switch .lol
quote:Originally posted by 2_each_its_own:
What happened to people holding hands to show their affection in public? I think anything more than that should be done in private or at least away from groups of kids especially.
Personally, I don't understand why people are so against gay people. They are not contaigous, They are people with different likes in life big deal. They can be some of the nicest people you could ever meet. I just woner if the ones that don't like gay people have ever got to know one on a friendship level.
2 each I know they are not contaigous , and I also know some can be nice .
Two weeks ago we went and spent the night with my cousin for Memorial day . Had a BBQ ,,she has a hot tub for 12 ,,,she also has gay friends , friends that are white married to black and they are very nice people too. But nobody got in the hot tub until late night ,,,I didnt get in ,,,my head was hurting , her gay friends thought it was because they had got in it ...That was wrong ,I have no problem being around them ,,they have thier rights as we all do ...I just dont agree with it because of how I was raised .
I will party with them ,,, they are fun ..... what gets me is people on here act like I dont have a right to my opinion .
....quote:Originally posted by tnt5862:quote:Originally posted by David L.:
I just shudder to think how my mental state would be if my parents were Jetboy, TNT, or Proud Caucasian.
Now go get me a switch .lol
quote:Originally posted by tnt5862:
...I just dont agree with it because of how I was raised .
This is so honest. This is the way so many people feel about so many issues. "Its how I was raised". Well, thats fine if we are talking about eating a peanut butter and banana sandwich or doing laundry on Sundays. But, we are talking about issues that can really hurt people. I will make mistakes raising my children. I dont want my children to do things just because I did them. When they raise my grandchildren one day - I want them to do it BETTER. I want them to make better choices than I did. Some will be the same, some will be different. What if issues surrounding minorities, including women never progressed to the point we are today because everyone sat on their duff and said "well, my momma raised me this way". ???
quote:Originally posted by SO TIRED OF IGNORANCE:quote:Originally posted by tnt5862:
...I just dont agree with it because of how I was raised .
This is so honest. This is the way so many people feel about so many issues. "Its how I was raised". Well, thats fine if we are talking about eating a peanut butter and banana sandwich or doing laundry on Sundays. But, we are talking about issues that can really hurt people. I will make mistakes raising my children. I dont want my children to do things just because I did them. When they raise my grandchildren one day - I want them to do it BETTER. I want them to make better choices than I did. Some will be the same, some will be different. What if issues surrounding minorities, including women never progressed to the point we are today because everyone sat on their duff and said "well, my momma raised me this way". ???
I can agree with you on some of this , but not the gay thing ,,its not only how I was raised but the Bible teaches against it . I care more about that than what people on earth here think of it .
quote:Originally posted by jetboy:quote:They are people with different likes in life big deal. They can be some of the nicest people you could ever meet.
The same could be said for drug users/dealers...serial killers...child molestors.
Your point is moot.
No, your point is moot. Drug Users/Dealers, Serial Killers and child molesters hurt innocent victims. Who someone does or does not love hurts NO one.
If that's the best argument you can come up with, I'd say you just proved the argumument against you. Thanks for saving us the trouble!
quote:Originally posted by tnt5862:
Its the gays and athiest that have turned this world into the mess it is now .
Are you serious? You really think gays and athiests are that powerful? Your own faith must be very small - how very sad for you and those who love you. Sad, sad, sad.
all I can say is lol 
quote:Originally posted by jetboy:quote:For all the tortured hue and cry, there is still not one thing anyone can do about gay Americans. The world is a big place.
"You don't have to live next to me, but you WILL give me my Liberty!"
I will give you hell...call it what you will...even liberty!
You are easily dealt with.
it is not only amusing that this even got reported on the news, but it's even worse that you guys are still going on arguing about it. I'm not taking a parents point of view of it because i'm not a parent yet. Don't even know if/when i will be one, but is someone elses sexual prefrence any of our business? not really. Do we have to watch it? No. Can we turn our heads if we see it and are uncomfortable with it? Yes. Did God give us free will to do these things and make our own decisions? Absolutely. What should we do with that? Mind our own business. Of course, everyone here has the free will to argue with me and that is perfectly fine, but what's the point? A lesbian couple made out in public, our media made a big deal about it, we think our thoughts about and live goes on. But trying to take a "parental mentality" on without currently being a parent myself. I would take the time for my kids to ask their questions if they saw it. No one can refuse a kid knowledge. If a child isn't going to learn it from their parents, their going to learn it from the internet or a drunken night in college where two people of the same sex are "experimenting". Which would you rather them learn it from?
Welcome to the real world...as pathetic as it may be.
I say, "Good Day!"
Welcome to the real world...as pathetic as it may be.
I say, "Good Day!"
I like to see them Seattle wimen give out some sugar, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFltpsfq3l8
quote:Originally posted by tnt5862:quote:Originally posted by David L.:
I just shudder to think how my mental state would be if my parents were Jetboy, TNT, or Proud Caucasian.
yea cause you'd get a whipping .
Now go get me a switch .lol
girl, you slay me
quote:Originally posted by kchrisgreen:
it is not only amusing that this even got reported on the news, but it's even worse that you guys are still going on arguing about it. I'm not taking a parents point of view of it because i'm not a parent yet. Don't even know if/when i will be one, but is someone elses sexual prefrence any of our business? not really. Do we have to watch it? No. Can we turn our heads if we see it and are uncomfortable with it? Yes. Did God give us free will to do these things and make our own decisions? Absolutely. What should we do with that? Mind our own business. Of course, everyone here has the free will to argue with me and that is perfectly fine, but what's the point? A lesbian couple made out in public, our media made a big deal about it, we think our thoughts about and live goes on. But trying to take a "parental mentality" on without currently being a parent myself. I would take the time for my kids to ask their questions if they saw it. No one can refuse a kid knowledge. If a child isn't going to learn it from their parents, their going to learn it from the internet or a drunken night in college where two people of the same sex are "experimenting". Which would you rather them learn it from?
Welcome to the real world...as pathetic as it may be.
I say, "Good Day!"
Very well said. And I agree with you, kill this thread already folks! Some of the ignorant statements on here is truly astounding.
I don't care who does what behind closed doors, but when it's in public view and children are around it is sicking.
Ellen Degeneres and Rosie O'Donnell are prime examples of the how sicking it is. It is a sin, no matter how you look at it, it is just sicking how people accepts this....
Ellen Degeneres and Rosie O'Donnell are prime examples of the how sicking it is. It is a sin, no matter how you look at it, it is just sicking how people accepts this....
it's not a matter of "accepting" it. It comes down to the fact that it's reality. I dont know how old your kids are (i'm assuming fairly young) but i dont have kids yet, so i can say this somewhat fairly...if/when i do have kids, i realize the fact that society is not going to be exactly how i want it to be for my children. At the same time, that's where i have to suck it up and say "ok kids, this is the real world. it's not what I or we agree with but it's all i have to offer you as a parent." Unless you move off to a deserted island where there are no homosexuals, then that's what you are unfortunatly forced to accept by society. I'm sorry but that IS the real world. As discusting as it may be. Prepare them before they prepare themselves in a way you wont like!
Perhaps it would be better to have the "straight" man babysit the children. Like the straight 40 year old widow who raped his mother in law last week - a hospice patient.
Sexual orientation does not predict a child molester. You all know that.
Sexual orientation does not predict a child molester. You all know that.
How about a homosexual pedifile priest ?
quote:Originally posted by Proud Caucasian:
How about a homosexual pedifile priest ?
The majority of child molestations are committed by straight men. I would not let you around my daughters - if I thought like you.
quote:Originally posted by SimonSays:quote:Originally posted by kchrisgreen:
it's not a matter of "accepting" it. It comes down to the fact that it's reality. I dont know how old your kids are (i'm assuming fairly young) but i dont have kids yet, so i can say this somewhat fairly...if/when i do have kids, i realize the fact that society is not going to be exactly how i want it to be for my children. At the same time, that's where i have to suck it up and say "ok kids, this is the real world. it's not what I or we agree with but it's all i have to offer you as a parent." Unless you move off to a deserted island where there are no homosexuals, then that's what you are unfortunatly forced to accept by society. I'm sorry but that IS the real world. As discusting as it may be. Prepare them before they prepare themselves in a way you wont like!
HUMMM very interesting that you should protect THOSE KIND OF PEOPLE, if and when you do have a child would YOU want one to babysit it????
How do you know wheather your teenage babysitter is a lesbian or not? Have you asked her? Grow up.
quote:Originally posted by meanasasnake:quote:Originally posted by Proud Caucasian:
How about a homosexual pedifile priest ?
The majority of child molestations are committed by straight men. I would not let you around my daughters - if I thought like you.
Thats a good idea because if they are anything like you I would lock them in a closet. If your offspring is anything like you chances are that they are intolerable loud mouths.
It’s sad to read that people like you are reproducing.