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quote:Originally posted by StarryNight:
http://gawker.com/5649907/stud...-most-about-religion
tarry,
Thats because they don't have a religion and need to hang on to something.
Ask nsns, I don't need it because me and BG got free tickets. Lifes good.
This Brick is red.
Just one in a mountain of evidence that atheist candidates are Hubbing up to believers before the end of time.
Im notsure why anyone would be surprised. A good study if the bible and other religions are excellent gateways to opening your mind to rge evident fact that no gods exist.
Times Daily: Survey says Jews, atheists have most religious knowledge
atheists & agnostics actually scored higher than Jews, but shockingly, we still get second billing
atheists & agnostics actually scored higher than Jews, but shockingly, we still get second billing
quote:http://www.timesdaily.com/arti...S/101129978/0/sports
Since moving to the Shoals, she said she's been asked on numerous occasions where she attends church or if she's looking for a place of worship. In response, Saye said she's had to choose her words carefully, often finding herself in a position to explain what it means to be an agnostic.
Here is something that interest me.
It seems that on this forum many if not all of the atheist say they too get ask frequently about their religious affiliation.
I have also noticed that many of the religious forum members seemed either surprised at that or do not believe it happens that often at all.
Why do you guys think that is?
Could it be that the religious members just don't take notice of it, or that they let it be known in conversation so the question just never comes up?
quote:I have also noticed that many of the religious forum members seemed either surprised at that or do not believe it happens that often at all.
Why do you guys think that is?
i get asked ALL THE TIME what church i attend. i really WANT to say, "i'll tell you that as soon as you describe the consistency of your latest bowel movement." but social decorum prevents that, of course. but i am thinking it. i usually say somehting lame and not let on how rude i think the question is. i always hate myself a little afterwards.
how in the world would someone think they could ask such a personal question of a complete stranger?
anyway, to answer the question, i don't think they know they are asking. it's kind of a "howdy do?" comment where they ask it so often they don't even know they are asking. thats my theory. whatever the case, yes, it happens all the time.
so what do you say when you are asked what church you go to?
quote:Originally posted by Unobtanium:
i get asked ALL THE TIME what church i attend. i really WANT to say, "i'll tell you that as soon as you describe the consistency of your latest bowel movement."
quote:Originally posted by Jankinonya:quote:http://www.timesdaily.com/arti...S/101129978/0/sports
Since moving to the Shoals, she said she's been asked on numerous occasions where she attends church or if she's looking for a place of worship. In response, Saye said she's had to choose her words carefully, often finding herself in a position to explain what it means to be an agnostic.
Here is something that interest me.
It seems that on this forum many if not all of the atheist say they too get ask frequently about their religious affiliation.
I have also noticed that many of the religious forum members seemed either surprised at that or do not believe it happens that often at all.
Why do you guys think that is?
Could it be that the religious members just don't take notice of it, or that they let it be known in conversation so the question just never comes up?
Jank,
That is a very good question and I have an idea but I need to think about it before answering.
If it turns out to be the case that atheist candidates are ask more than normal citizens there has to be a cause and I will have to retract my accusation that Uno is a miserable liar when he makes the claim that he is’ asked all the time’.
I myself am almost never asked that question. I really don’t remember being asked..
I have certainly never been asked at First Friday.
Some folk project their character in public in such a way that they appear abnormal and become ,let’s say, a novelty to an observer. I do that myself. If I meet someone with a strangeness I will ask many questions to determine if they warrant further study.
Uno deep &Co. are actually a study of mine.
Uno for instance does not capitalize. Ever wonder why? He wants someone to ask why. We all know he is supposed to represent capitalization unless his position is a ruse and his actions are in protest to Christians who care enough to capitalize.
If uno is consistently asked about his religion you can bet he is begging the question.
Uno is so transparent it’s funny.
Again Jank your genius shines through.
P.S. Jank, That is the very reason I warn you about your assiciation with uno. He is up to no good.
so what do you say when you are asked what church you go to?[/QUOTE]
Be honest
Be honest
quote:Originally posted by buffalo:quote:Originally posted by Jankinonya:quote:http://www.timesdaily.com/arti...S/101129978/0/sports
Since moving to the Shoals, she said she's been asked on numerous occasions where she attends church or if she's looking for a place of worship. In response, Saye said she's had to choose her words carefully, often finding herself in a position to explain what it means to be an agnostic.
Here is something that interest me.
It seems that on this forum many if not all of the atheist say they too get ask frequently about their religious affiliation.
I have also noticed that many of the religious forum members seemed either surprised at that or do not believe it happens that often at all.
Why do you guys think that is?
Could it be that the religious members just don't take notice of it, or that they let it be known in conversation so the question just never comes up?
Jank,
That is a very good question and I have an idea but I need to think about it before answering.
If it turns out to be the case that atheist candidates are ask more than normal citizens there has to be a cause and I will have to retract my accusation that Uno is a miserable liar when he makes the claim that he is’ asked all the time’.
I myself am almost never asked that question. I really don’t remember being asked..
I will await your conclusions with much anticipation.
I have began to wonder if it is something more subtle than actions that make christians bring up the subject of where you go to church. I have noticed when I am with some members of my family that attend regularly that they seem to weave it into their conversation unknowingly. They will be talking to someone and causally mention something that happened or is going on at their church. At that point the other person has no reason to ask them if they attend church...they obviously do.
With me it seems like when I am ask (not by the radom folks on the street downtown) it is after having a very nice polite conversation and they seem to assume I go to church. This happened recently at the beauty shop. I had been chatting with a woman who was there getting her hair done along side me. After about an hour of sitting around talking she said, "Now where do you attend church?" When I said I didn't she seemed shocked. She was one of the nice ones and didn't go off into a sermon about my soul or prayers. I just remember the look of shock and bewilderment on her face. She just KNEW I went to a church somewhere.
GOOD MORNING
I find it highly amusing how the materialists here at the forum continue to pat themselves on their backs on their religious “knowledge”, when the obvious fact is that they simply do not get it at all.
Where these earnest individuals fall short is that they utterly fail to understand the real meaning of religion in the life of a human being. In their short-sighted vision, religion is an academic following of one of the innumerable creeds which clutter the world. To them, religion is forcing one’s mind around certain “facts”, which, in the final analysis, are implausible, illogical or just plain impossible.
And what joy they experience in rubbing the noses of the religionists into these inconsistencies!
I, at least am grateful to these individuals. They are part of the great social fulcrum of change, the visible fingers of an emerging age of science. They are forcing religion to give up so many of the inconsistencies to which it has clung to over the past few centuries. Silly things, like a 6000 year old earth. A wrathful God. A Son of that same God who would actually need to be sacrificed in order for mankind to be free of some supposed racial sin. Beliefs like this belong in the dim and distant past, and it is high time that a determined group of individuals force this silliness out of our collective psyches.
But religion will emerge from this purge stronger than ever.
Perhaps not the creedal religions of the mind. But surely the pure religion of the spirit. The spirit religion which shall change mankind from the mere intellectual belief in traditional authority to the actual experience of that faith which grasps the reality of God and all that relates to the divine spirit of the Father. Leave behind the religions of authority which tie you hopelessly to the past; the religion of the spirit consists in progressive revelation and ever beckons you on toward higher achievements in spiritual ideals and eternal realities.
While the religions of authority may impart a present feeling of settled security, you pay for such a transient satisfaction the price of the loss of your spiritual freedom and religious liberty. God the Father does not require of you as the price of entering the kingdom of heaven that you should force yourself to subscribe to a belief in things which are spiritually repugnant, unholy, and untruthful. It is not required of you that your own sense of mercy, justice, and truth should be outraged by submission to an outworn system of religious forms and ceremonies. The religion of the spirit leaves you forever free to follow the truth wherever the leadings of the spirit may take you. And who can judge—perhaps this spirit may have something to impart to this generation which other generations have refused to hear?
Shame on those false religious teachers who would drag hungry souls back into the dim and distant past and there leave them! And so are these unfortunate persons doomed to become frightened by every new discovery, while they are discomfited by every new revelation of truth. The prophet who said, "He will be kept in perfect peace whose mind is stayed on God," was not a mere intellectual believer in authoritative theology. This truth-knowing human had discovered God; he was not merely talking about God.
So, in closing; Thank You my materialist friends! You are courageously doing the heavy lifting… weaning a religious culture from things it should have outgrown centuries ago.
Al
I find it highly amusing how the materialists here at the forum continue to pat themselves on their backs on their religious “knowledge”, when the obvious fact is that they simply do not get it at all.
Where these earnest individuals fall short is that they utterly fail to understand the real meaning of religion in the life of a human being. In their short-sighted vision, religion is an academic following of one of the innumerable creeds which clutter the world. To them, religion is forcing one’s mind around certain “facts”, which, in the final analysis, are implausible, illogical or just plain impossible.
And what joy they experience in rubbing the noses of the religionists into these inconsistencies!
I, at least am grateful to these individuals. They are part of the great social fulcrum of change, the visible fingers of an emerging age of science. They are forcing religion to give up so many of the inconsistencies to which it has clung to over the past few centuries. Silly things, like a 6000 year old earth. A wrathful God. A Son of that same God who would actually need to be sacrificed in order for mankind to be free of some supposed racial sin. Beliefs like this belong in the dim and distant past, and it is high time that a determined group of individuals force this silliness out of our collective psyches.
But religion will emerge from this purge stronger than ever.
Perhaps not the creedal religions of the mind. But surely the pure religion of the spirit. The spirit religion which shall change mankind from the mere intellectual belief in traditional authority to the actual experience of that faith which grasps the reality of God and all that relates to the divine spirit of the Father. Leave behind the religions of authority which tie you hopelessly to the past; the religion of the spirit consists in progressive revelation and ever beckons you on toward higher achievements in spiritual ideals and eternal realities.
While the religions of authority may impart a present feeling of settled security, you pay for such a transient satisfaction the price of the loss of your spiritual freedom and religious liberty. God the Father does not require of you as the price of entering the kingdom of heaven that you should force yourself to subscribe to a belief in things which are spiritually repugnant, unholy, and untruthful. It is not required of you that your own sense of mercy, justice, and truth should be outraged by submission to an outworn system of religious forms and ceremonies. The religion of the spirit leaves you forever free to follow the truth wherever the leadings of the spirit may take you. And who can judge—perhaps this spirit may have something to impart to this generation which other generations have refused to hear?
Shame on those false religious teachers who would drag hungry souls back into the dim and distant past and there leave them! And so are these unfortunate persons doomed to become frightened by every new discovery, while they are discomfited by every new revelation of truth. The prophet who said, "He will be kept in perfect peace whose mind is stayed on God," was not a mere intellectual believer in authoritative theology. This truth-knowing human had discovered God; he was not merely talking about God.
So, in closing; Thank You my materialist friends! You are courageously doing the heavy lifting… weaning a religious culture from things it should have outgrown centuries ago.
Al
quote:Originally posted by Bo Doe:
so what do you say when you are asked what church you go to?
Be honest
[/QUOTE]Bo,
If the question was addressed to me; I give my canned sermon that one does not ‘go to church’.
I would never ask anyone where they ‘go to church’.
The church is the people not the steeple.
If one subscribes to religious doctrines then one is in the church no matter at what longitude and latitude that person might be observed
Years ago I did ask. Now I challenge myself to rethink what the church is all about!
I was asked once when I moved to where I am. I said we don't have one right now. I was then told about the ones in the area.
That was it.
That was it.
quote:With me it seems like when I am ask (not by the radom folks on the street downtown) it is after having a very nice polite conversation and they seem to assume I go to church
i suppose lots of people here don't really get out all that much and converse with people thus don't get asked this kind of quesiton often. someone like buff who lives with his mom in the basement prolly doesn't get a chance to ask or be asked.
my chosen career puts me in contact with lots of different people who are often older and a little more successful than the average joe. we often talk about community service activities. when i suggest things to do in the community or mention the things i am involved in, i can almost see the "where you go to church?" question forming on the person's lips. i imagine they see someone who cares and does good deeds and automatically assume i go to church and want to know where. THAT is what makes the question even more offensive to me. if i were to answer honestly, i would alienate those kinds of people. id like to be able to affrd to be more honest but reality is what it is.