Originally Posted by seeweed:
Originally Posted by dogsoldier0513:
Originally Posted by seeweed:
Well Dire, I agree, but what bothers me most is it seems that every day we are seeing some out of control cops proving they think they are above the law....
I'm curious: Would you include AG Holder among these 'out of control cops'?
No, I doubt if you, me , or anybody we know will have reason to come across AG Holder, as I (hope) that none of us are exchanging guns for drugs in Mexico. Of course there are two simple solutions to that entire problem - 1> end the "war on drugs" , 2> vote out Sessions and Shelby who BOTH voted to keep it easy for criminals and psychopaths to buy guns. (if you voted for either, then YOU , my friend, are part of the problem)
> On the other hand, I have already had experience with out of control cops, and my bet is that most people you and I know either already have, will have, or know someone who has or will.
Cases in point :
If you happen to be on the way to buy a car in Tenn (maybe other places),and you are planning on paying cash (like most people sell one to one cars) and the cops learn you have a lot of cash, they not only can , but will seize that money claiming it could have been used in a drug transaction . - That happened
If your underage daughter goes to buy some bottled water at a local convenience store, and a cop sees her , she may be arrested . - That happened
If you are sitting peacefully on a college campus in protest of something, you may be sprayed with pepper spray that is classified by the army as a chemical weapon - it happened
Worse yet, if you are peacefully, but loudly protesting on a college campus in Ohio, you may just be shot - it happened
If you are driving in a certain parrish in La, and you change lanes on the interstate, you may be pulled over for "improper lane change" and your car seized by the police dept because it looks like it may have been used in transporting drugs. - it has happened, but last I heard the court made the county quit.
If you leave Sheffield at 2AM getting off of work, and cross the O'neal bridge , you may be picked up for "I thought I saw you swerve" and given an alcohol blow test. You pass, with 0.01 but the azzhole cop, just fresh out of Iraq, decides to throw you in the Florence jail overnight anyway. - it happened
Before I end , I will say, I have no idea why, when I started to add to the first paragraph of this post, it decided to make the letters twice the size and in bold print. After 2 gin and tonics, I can't figure it out and for the most part don't really give a damm , but I apologize for it being that way.
Here's one guy who came in to "indirect" contact with Holder...
Guns tracked by the ATF have been found at crime scenes on both sides of the Mexico–United States border, and the scene whereUnited States Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry was killed. The "gunwalking" operations became public in the aftermath of Terry's murder. Dissenting ATF agents came forward to Congress in response. According to Humberto Benítez Treviño, former Mexican Attorney General and chair of the justice committee in the Chamber of Deputies, related firearms have been found at numerous crime scenes in Mexico where at least 150 Mexican civilians were maimed and killed.
As a result of a dispute over the release of Justice Department documents related to the scandal, Attorney General Eric Holder became the first sitting member of the Cabinet of the United States to be held in contempt of Congress on June 28, 2012. Earlier that month, President Obama had invoked executive privilege for the first time in his presidency over the same documents.
"Gunwalking", or "letting guns walk", was a tactic of the Arizona Field Office of the United States Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF). They ran a series of "gunwalking" sting operationsbetween 2006 and 2011 in the Tucson and Phoenix area where the ATF "purposely allowed licensed firearms dealers to sell weapons to illegalstraw buyers, hoping to track the guns to Mexican drug cartel leaders."These operations were done under the umbrella of Project Gunrunner, a project intended to stem the flow of firearms into Mexico by interdicting straw purchasers and gun traffickers within the United States.
The stated goal of allowing these purchases was to continue to track the firearms as they were transferred to higher-level traffickers and key figures in Mexican cartels, with the expectation that this would lead to their arrests and the dismantling of the cartels. The tactic was questioned during the operations by a number of people, including ATF field agents and cooperating licensed gun dealers. During Operation Fast and Furious, by far the largest "gunwalking" probe, the ATF monitored the sale of about 2,000:203 firearms, of which only 710 were recovered as of February 2012.:203 A number of straw purchasers have been arrested and indicted; however, as of October 2011, none of the targeted high-level cartel figures have been arrested.