Bernie Sanders--a Force to be Reckoned With

With the Dems as they are, there aren't any real differences between them and socialists. Well maybe with the exception of allowing crony capitalists to co-subjugate us, but that difference is lost on Debbie Wassermann-Shultz.

http://freebeacon.com/politics...umbfounds-dnc-chair/

Yes, old Bernie would give us the same socialist economy that so improved the lives of people in Greece, Portugal, Venezuela, Argentina, Bolivia and Ecuador, not to mention Zimbabwe and Angola.  . 

There are some things I like about Bernie, but he is a flaming socialist.

Had a bit of fun on a blog. One of Bernie's fans stated Bernie was not an international socialist (aka communist). I asked if that meant he was a national socialist.  Still waiting for a response.

You say that like it is a bad thing.

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No, he would give us the same Socialism that got us out of the Depression, built much of the infrastructure we still use, put electriity in the homes of millions of farms and small towns,, and won a pretty big war. He will back the type of Socialism that built the interstate highway system, created a middle class, and turned the USA into the greatest military and economic power the world had ever seen.
Weve been there before and we were great, we went back to the horse and sparrow economic policies, gutted the unions,and disassembled the New Deal which kept the robber barrons at bay, and now the only thing we are number one in , is the number of our population that is incarcerated . 
We need a good Democratic Socialist now.

You have a illegal token communist at the moment, and this country has

never been in worse shape. You've lost your country, stick a fork in it.

In 1920, the US experienced a recession.  Secretary of the Treasury, Herbert Hoover, advocated government intervention.  Instead, the McKinley/Coolidge administrations reduced taxes and government spending, resulting in the largest economic expansion in US history.

No, he would give us the same Socialism that got us out of the Depression,

In 1929, the US experienced a similar recession. President Hoover decided to raise tariffs to an extremely high rate, despite the objection of over 900 economists.  The other nations followed suit, resulting in a shutdown of world trade and a worldwide depression.  The actions of the FDR administration did alleviate suffering for some individuals, but ensured the depression would continue.

built much of the infrastructure we still use, put electriity (sec) in the homes of millions of farms and small towns,, and won a pretty big war. He will back the type of Socialism that built the interstate highway system, created a middle class, and turned the USA into the greatest military and economic power the world had ever seen.

The great economic expansion following WWII was a result of the US being the last man standing. The other industrial nations’ factories were in ruins and their workforce dead or seriously handicapped.  Plus, during that period, government regulations were not onerous, nor was government spending out of control. The US had a middle class before WWII, thanks to industrialization and the need for skilled workers, not government largess.  The same industrialization became the arsenal of democracy. 

Weve been there before and we were great, we went back to the horse and sparrow economic policies, gutted the unions, and disassembled the New Deal which kept the robber barrons (sec) at bay, and now the only thing we are number one in , is the number of our population that is incarcerated . 

The private sector unions were gutted because members saw there was little need and that unions were enriching the union leaders, not the members. Private sector unions went the way of the guilds of the Middle Ages, with the exception of a very few that evolved with the times. 

Public sector unions are the only ones growing, thanks to a devil’s deal between corrupt politicians and union leaders.  Progressive Camille Paglia identified that in detail in a recent review in Salon.  I posted it in another thread, but include an excerpt below. 

  We need a good Democratic Socialist now.

About as much, as Lucifer requires ice skates. 

Camille Paglia’s article:

“The union issue is huge–because as governor of Wisconsin, Walker went to war with unions and won.  Liberals are caught in the past right now in their rosy view of unions, which were heroically established during the progressive era that reformed the abuses of the industrial revolution.  But the union battle in Wisconsin had nothing to do with exploited working-class miners or factory workers.  In his push to balance the state budget, Walker took action against the middle-class public sector unions, whose negotiations with municipal and state governments outside the arena of private competition have become an enormous drain on local budgets as the economy has worsened. There has been a history of rampant corruption in the public sector unions, coming from their cozy quid pro quo relationships with politicians.  Liberals need to wake up about this!  All they have to do is read the obituaries of the smaller newspapers in metropolitan New York to see how the early retirement and lavish pensions of the public sector unions have grotesquely drained taxpayer dollars.  Obituary after obituary–so-and-so, aged 75, worked for fifteen or twenty years as a policeman or city sanitation worker, retired in his late 40s, and spent the rest of his life on the taxpayer’s dime, pursuing his hobbies of fishing, boating, and golfing.  Great work if you can get it!

And then the teachers’ unions! What a colossal tactical error American Federation of Teachers President Randi Weingarten (a longtime Clinton friend and donor) made several weeks ago in unilaterally declaring her union’s endorsement of Hillary Clinton right in the middle of the Bernie Sanders surge. Probably for the first time ever, American liberals woke up to the corrupt practices that have become way too common in the political maneuverings of the big unions. The point here is that Scott Walker, in his defeat of the public sector unions, drew the roadmap for struggling municipal and state governments everywhere to balance their budgets, as he did in Wisconsin.  Because who ends up suffering the most? It’s the kids.  All that money outrageously pouring into inflated pension plans has been gutting public education and community arts programs.

Exactly how have the teachers unions improved the quality of education in our big cities?  Look at the dilapidated public schools in Philadelphia or in many other cities run by Democrats.  The rigid and antiquated seniority system imposed by the teachers unions has been a disaster–”last hired, first fired.”  So many young and vital teachers have been terminated during budget cuts–the entire future of the profession.  The unions value seniority over quality, and it’s inner-city children who have paid the price.” 

http://www.salon.com/2015/07/3..._on_hillary_clinton/

The private sector unions were gutted because members saw there was little need and that unions were enriching the union leaders, not the members. Private sector unions went the way of the guilds of the Middle Ages, with the exception of a very few that evolved with the times. 

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That statement is made by someone who has never been represented by a good union. 

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“The union issue is huge–because as governor of Wisconsin, Walker went to war with unions and won.  

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Did Wisconsin win? Has it improved conditions in Wisconsin? Are there more jobs there? Has the blue collar pay and employment improved? Has the unemployment rate gone down?

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Answers: No, No, No, No, and No.  But the wingnuts still praise him.

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Even in their future budgetary outlook Wisconsin has improved, while Illinois exhibits the fate decades of Democrat government rule.

“Moody's revises Wisconsin's outlook to positive from stable; assigns Aa2 rating to planned issuance of $296.9 million of G.O. Refunding Bonds of 2014, Series 4

The positive outlook reflects an improved liquidity position, conservative management of retiree benefits that limits future budgetary pressures, and reductions in the state's long standing negative GAAP fund balance that, if continued, would allow the state to improve its reserves and balance sheet.”

https://www.moodys.com/researc...signs-Aa2--PR_313413

"Illinois Credit Rating Downgraded To Nation's Worst By Moody's

Citing the state's ongoing financial problems, Moody's Investor Service on Friday downgraded Illinois's credit rating to the lowest of any state in the country.

According to the Associated Press, Moody's blamed the low rating of "A2" on "weak management practices" and the most recent legislative session which "took no steps to implement lasting solutions" on issues such as an increasingly severe pension funding shortfall."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...ng-do_n_1193899.html