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A very conservative legal advocacy organization has come up with a powerful argument that Ted Cruz fails to meet the "natural born Citizen" requirement of the Constitution at Article II, Section 1.    They make a case that is much more credible than any of the "birther" claims made against President Obama.  Read their analysis here:

http://northamericanlawcenter....egally/#.VrUCFvkrJR3

One element of their case is questionable, but I will not identify it, leaving it to the legal "experts" of this forum to find it for themselves. Ultimately, I suspect, this issue will be decided by the Supreme Court.

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A foreign birth certificate does not always make one a citizen of that nation.  US soldiers and others Americans living abroad, usually are given birth certificates from the nation where their child was born.  Then, get a certificate of live birth from the US consulate.  Then, apply for their child's citizenship. 

Mostly a silly smoke screen, I remember when Democrats attempted to get Goldwater off the ballot because he was born in Arizona when it was a territory.  The birthers questioning Obama's citizenship had half an argument.  If he were born in Kenya, when his mother was under 21, that would bring his citizenship into question.  The law at that time stated only if the mother was of a majority age could the child be a US citizen.  Now, of course, 18 is the age of majority.  As Obama was born in the US, the old law did not apply.

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A foreign birth certificate does not always make one a citizen of that nation.  US soldiers and others Americans living abroad, usually are given birth certificates from the nation where their child was born.  Then, get a certificate of live birth from the US consulate.  Then, apply for their child's citizenship. 

Mostly a silly smoke screen, I remember when Democrats attempted to get Goldwater off the ballot because he was born in Arizona when it was a territory.  The birthers questioning Obama's citizenship had half an argument.  If he were born in Kenya, when his mother was under 21, that would bring his citizenship into question.  The law at that time stated only if the mother was of a majority age could the child be a US citizen.  Now, of course, 18 is the age of majority.  As Obama was born in the US, the old law did not apply.

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"US soldiers and others Americans living abroad, usually are given birth certificates from the nation where their child was born.  Then, get a certificate of live birth from the US consulate.  Then, apply for their child's citizenship. "

But apparently Cruz's parents did not obtain such a certificate of live birth or make such an application, so where does that leave him? Not trying to argue that it leaves him without U.S. citizenship; just asking the question.

The supreme court has never ruled on difference, if any, in "native natural born citizen" and "non-native natural born citizen." Perhaps now they will.

BTW, London mayor Boris Johnson was born in the US; many have (with tongue in cheek, I hope) touted him as presidential material. Well, he might be better than Trump.

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