Birthers are the crazy ones ?

Barack Obama Admits he was born in Kenya Speech  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQcd41RO25k

OBAMA BANNED THIS VIDEO - GEE, I WONDER WHY!.flv  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-HqHSkYG-Y

Hillary Clinton started the birther story in 2008 when she ran against Obama.

Yeah. The dems dropped the ball.  Sanders should be president right now.  He seemed more serious than any other candidate, dem or rep.

Actually,  If Obama wasn't able to run in 2008 I believe that Hillary would have been President instead of him.  Enough time had run it's course for Hillary's evils to be brought out and manifested along with her performance at Benghazi that she was tainted goods in 2016.   I, though, think in 2008 she would have won easily against McCain and would have been re-elected over Romney in 2012 as neither Romney or McCain were candidates that could beat her, or most other Democrats for that matter. 

Romney has his own self to blame, as well as whoever was advising him, when he allowed his earlier debate performances to lull him into thinking that his 3rd debate wasn't that important and that he could skate through without attacking the President on Benghazi and the lies surrounding that issue.    Romney was wrong in accepting that premise and wimping out in the 3rd debate in 2012 and playing Mr. Nice Guy and thinking that he was going to get media sympathy and support by laying off Obama..

McCain, or any Republican in 2008, following George Bush, had no chance in begin elected for the media and most Democrats had successfully tarnished Bush to the point that America was never going to elect a Republican at that point in time.  Of course that's my own opinion.

As for the certificate that Obama's brother produced.  At this moment in time it's really just stirring up conspiracy theorist and isn't going to go anywhere anyway.  People are pretty set as to what they actually think regarding Obama's birth but as of now it really doesn't matter if he, and his folks, pulled the greatest con over on America.  He could have been born in Hawaii or he could have been born in Kenya, frankly, I doubt, knowing either way would change anything.  Even if he lost his cushy retirement he's got plenty of wealth to fall back on and look forward to in future speeches and book deals.  It's nice, in those regards, to be President so he's a lottery winner either way.

Naio posted:

Yeah. The dems dropped the ball.  Sanders should be president right now.  He seemed more serious than any other candidate, dem or rep.

Kraven posted:

Naio posted:

Yeah. The dems dropped the ball.  Sanders should be president right now.  He seemed more serious than any other candidate, dem or rep.

Serious about what,?

Any idea of what would make his dreams come true?

What was sweet, or telling, to me was to hear about how lavish a life Sander's leads while preaching humility and living low to everyone else.   When you look at Sander's past he never has really had a job other than that paid by the government or taxpayers.  His wealth and personal achievements have only come at the hands and money of the American taxpayer.  Hillary all along was destined to be the Democrat's candidate and the leaked emails of Pedestal was proof of that.  The Democrats were never going to allow anyone other than Hillary to be their candidate.  She was such a flawed and bad candidate that there was no way America was going to choose her.  If there was a list of candidates who would be the worst candidate to run against Republicans then Hillary's name should have been at the top of that list yet the Democrats chose her to be their only hope.