Bloomberg's Top Advocate Admits Gun Control Proposals Wouldn't Stop Mass Shootings

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Well... You're sure trying awful hard to compensate for *something.*  LOL! WHO'S the wannabe here?

It's obvious that you're not a badass.  A sorehead (apparently by your own admission with a cabal of 'bodyguards'), maybe, but definitely not a badass.

Mad....I really could give a rat's ass what you think or don't care.  I really don't care what people think.. Do you know why, mad?

  Because as far as I am concerned-and you're the latest to confirm my suspicion-most people aren't qualified to tie their shoelaces, much less 'think.'

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See? I *knew* there was a reason for the gun-boner you got.

 That kinda talk doesn't scare me.  Very little actually does.

"There are lots of bad asses out there, but I can promise them this - they wont out bad ass a bullet.  No matter how big they talk." 

So that's your method, eh?  Shoot 'em if they say something you don't like?  Or do ya just 'point' and that usually does the trick?

You know better than that, RP.  The post was directed at 'people' who think they are bad ass enough that they can go up against anyone with a gun.   Know anyone here that has said that a time or two?

People like that remind me of people that think they can outrun the cops.  Yep, you might outrun 'that' cop - but I aint seen many people that can outrun a Motorola. 

As for me, I dont need a method.  You see, I make it a point not to put myself in a situation where I might have to pull my gun.  If I'm in a situation where I have to pull my gun, then someone else has put me in that situation.

And BTW, I got my gun 'boner' through my respect of the constitution and the foundation this country was built on.  And unlike many others here, I took the oath and wrote that blank check once upon a time to support and protect my rights.

R.P.

I pretty sure you do not mean for your texts to come across this way but they imply that someone smaller or less of a bad a** than you should just take a beating.

They also imply that anyone who feels the need to carry a gun is a weakling that only carries to overcompensate for their weakness.

I like RP - we just dont agree on this issue....

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I dunno how you are seeing that.  Unless that is the typical mentality around here....y'know...that everybody automatically thinks that a guy who isn't afraid to speak exactly what's on his mind with confidence is a 'badass' that likes to beat on weaker people. Are you guys all THAT damm afraid of each other down here that ya all hafta 'bless each others' hearts' while you're backing away with your twitching fingers on your guns so that *every* disagreement  doesn't turn into a shootout?? Or do just usually the bullies actually speak their minds around here? Where I'm from EVERYBODY speaks their mind. Loud.

If that's the case-it must really suck to be you and then can ya blame me for pickin' on that aspect of the culture?  It's asinine.  Real men (at least the ones I learned from) say what they mean and mean what they say. That way there's no doubt and nothing's lost in translation.

  I don't so much care what I sound like.  I speak my mind and you're going to hear what ya wanna hear  anyway. I don't sugarcoat s#!t. If I sound like a badass, then so be it. I'm no different in person.

If that constitutes 'being a badass' to you guys, well then-take a lesson in badassery.

You sure 'boot that, Cap'n?  Cuz fr a minute there ya almost sounded like ya were a-fixin' ta blow off some caps all Yosemite Sam-like.  I could hear the tone even though I couldn't hear ya voice.

Yes, I have disarmed a couple guys in my lifetime so far.  One who was stupid drunk and had to be made to think, and the other who made the mistake of thinking I would meekly submit.

If that makes me a badass-then mebbe I am.

If YOU were unarmed, would YOU have the 'nads to turn off your fear and turn the situation around?  Correct me if I'm wrong, but...

I'm betting 'no' as you wouldn't be unarmed because  apparently you don't.

(Actually in all honesty ya only really have two choices when you're staring down a barrel-die or do something- and Thursday was not a good day for dying.)

I wrote a check like that once, too and I also respect our constitution-but how come it is that I don't need a gun to make it through a day and you and some others here seems can't even take a whizz without one?

Why is that?  

My inquiring mind wants to know....

Trust me, RP, you are not the only one I passionately argue with on here and still have the ability to remain friendly with elsewhere.  

I actually give you a little more slack than others, because I know where you are coming from.  You see, I was born and raised outside Chicago.  I claim to be a born again southerner.   My family is all from TN and we moved back south when I was 12.  I have lots of family in IL, and northerners can be a little more blunt that southerners.  

I'd like to think that, if in the position you described, I would not cower in a corner.  I haven't been in that position.  Just like I have never had to pull my gun.  I say that, if faced with life or death, I would chose life.  I can also say that, if I pull my gun, it wont be to scare someone.  Responsible gun owners dont use their gun to scare people.  But responsible gun owners dont get drunk when they are carrying either.  Id say the class of gun owners you deal with are not typical.  

I carry my gun because I want to be prepared.  I carry my gun because its better to have and not need than to need and not have.  And I carry my gun because its my right to and I can.  I don't criticize people who chose not to carry.  I don't criticize people who don't like guns.  I take issue with people that don't like guns and feel they have the right to dictate whether or not I should be able to carry a gun.  

BTW - I don't hang out with drunks, I don't often drink, and I don't frequent places where I might run into a drunk.  I gave that up years ago (and didn't carry back then either - I couldn't in the service).  If those are the people you deal with on a regular basis, then I can see why you might have an attitude about certain people carrying guns.  Some people shouldn't be allowed to drink, but do we ban alcohol because some people don't have the ability to handle themselves when they drink? 

Look at Huntsville - all the shootings in the past few years.  What is being discussed there?  Are they blaming the guns?  Are they talking about how all this gun violence is because of the guns?  No, they are asking the community to work together and end the violence.  Not gun violence.  End the violence.  Where would we be if the country, as a whole, quit arguing about guns and said 'lets stand up and end the violence'?  What could we accomplish if we did that together?  But you will never get most gun owners to buy in as long as people keep blaming the guns and you will never get the gun grabbers to buy in because that doesn't get them to their end game.  

Take a look at the open carry people, what do they look like?

At two thirty AM, at the local convenience store, when the open carry guy comes through the door, what does the clerk think and do?

Why can't someone carry open in the capitol building?  I know the police can, Joe Sixpack can't.  Could it be because they are afraid to be around guns?  Are they afraid for themselves and not for the general public?

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I'm serious jt, think about the way things are today and tell me why you think, or don't think, people should be enraged.

I think we are all spoiled brats.  If I'm in a car with others, when the other driver does something dumb or dangerous, I'll sort of blow it off and say, they're just doing the best they can.  If I'm by myself, the language would hurt a sailors ears.  If others are in the car, I don't want them to see me act so child like.

I'm not sure that would qualify as rage. Maybe mild rage if there's such a thing, but it still doesn't explain what causes the rage.

Spoken like well a true Dam Yankee or redneck!!! No I do not fear nor do I CCW carry all the time and I was federally at FLETC trained for defending myself and disarming a attacker including with guns or knives.   I am southern and have respect for others try to civil and have manners, do not mistake a easy going attitude for a easy mark.  Actually it is really great to be me great family and friends, a job that pays well and that I love etc.  I was actually trying to be nice to you! Relax Francis

The idea is that courthouses are protected by armed guards / police.  Its why personal carry is not as important, police response time is not a factor because they are already there.  

Ok, Cap'n. Well said.  A few cliches in there but I expected that.  If ya gotta hang out in the rough part of town on a regular basis I guess it makes sense.  Ya just gettin' as bad with the guns as BeeG is gettin' with the gays.  I'm guessing that yer not gonna sway any votes should they come up seein' as pretty much everybody around here already thinks like you do. Yer preachin' to th' choir.

Ya not winnin' over the non-gun crowd....and it's unlikely that ya will.

@ HI: Chill.  You stated what you saw and I sorta told ya you were mistaken.  There was no malice in what I said, and I never directed anything at you in particular-except for the "I dunno how you're seeing that" part.

If anything I guessed that maybe bullies only spoke their minds around here-suggesting that maybe it could be construed that I was coming across as one to you guys-because that's how YOU said You saw it.  

I'm still wondering how speaking one's mind without bulls#!tting=bully.  How does that work?

 I'm not one atall.  I'm not big enough or mean enough to be a bully. 

 I've already stated that I don't mince words. You just gave me a mental picture of "Cotton" Hill having a conniption fit. LOL. SRSLY.  Betcha you'da just been Yosemie Sammin' w/ steam comin out ya ears, too.

Does the shoe I described fit? If so, there ya have it.

If not, then WHADDYA COMPLAININ' ABOOT, FRANK-SEES?.  I don't much care either way cause it's yer problem, not mine. /shrug 

I couldna gotta better response if I'da gone to a truckstop and yelled 'ya mama' over the radio. 

Hooboyyy...you sure gave yer autocorrect a workout, eh?  It's all good.

Whoops- edit timeout.

I just reread that...

Sez HI:

"do not mistake a easy going attitude for a easy mark."

DAFOOK?

You really DO think that way!!!  Holy crap! Way to third grade, mon....

The idea is that courthouses are protected by armed guards / police.  Its why personal carry is not as important, police response time is not a factor because they are already there.  

Capt, you know that answer is BS.  You walk through the front door, get past the security guard, go wherever you are going, pull out your weapon and blast away.  It will  be a minute or so for a response, the shooter don't care if he lives or dies.  He can empty several high capacity (or low capacity) clips (or whatever the correct term is) before being stopped.  The people in those buildings are afraid for their safety.

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I don't know what they'd think. Most likely they'd think someone coming to rob them doesn't walk in with the gun on their hip in plain sight. Now, if they walk in with it in their hand I'd say it's time to hit the floor and the panic button. Why you'd ask about the other puzzles me. Common sense should tell you why guns aren't allowed in some places, such as the capitol building or a court house. 

I know that what I said was the thought behind the process - not that people in the courthouse are afraid of law abiding citizens carrying guns.  When the policies were put in place, the belief was that there is a police force there to deal with a threat.

You are exactly right about the fact that, if the courthouse is not properly protected, then someone can just walk in and blast away.  Kindof like school houses.  Gun free zones are effectively worthless - I am glad you are beginning to understand that.  The only thing that 'no guns allowed' sign does is make people feel warm and fuzzy - at least until the bullets start flying.

And it doesnt take 'high capacity magazines' to do so.  15 rounds, 30 rounds, they still have to change the magazine.  Only thing that usually stops them is someone else firing back (granted every now and them some hero gets lucky and has a chance to tackle them) - then most of the cowards commit suicide.  

Like your comment about the service station employee - you seem to approach gun situations with an irrational fear of guns.  

Me thinks Road Puppy has watched too many episodes of "Walker Texas Ranger".  And for what it is worth, I ride my motocycle alone all the time without as you say body guards.  I am not the one on here saying I can whip a bullet.  YOU are, so you must be the one compensating.  As for saying what is on your mind, I have no problem with that. I like reading your post, sometimes they make me laugh.