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Actually, I like alot of these folks, and alot of them like me as well. There are some folks I have a great deal of respect for. I call some of these people 'Friend'.
You say you came because you were being blasted, but I haven't seen it. I do pay attention. It's not real. Nobody will bother you unless you start something. I have seen you invite people to 'READ' and I invite you to do the same. In reality, NOTHING is happening against you. I truly hope you find the help that you so desperately need.
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quote:So, what is unusual about the rib count? The Bible tells us that God took a rib from the side of Adam and created Eve. It does not say that He did not replace Adam's rib.
It says this: "But for Adam, no suitable helper was found. So the LORD God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, he took one of the man’s ribs and closed up the place with flesh. Then the LORD God made a woman from the rib he had taken out of the man, and brought her to the man."
Throughout the middle ages and up to now, people thought man had n less rib that Eve. In fact, some people were persecuted as heretics for disagreeing with the church over this "scientific fact."
Many people still believe this today.
I made the assumption that Bill and Braylan would still believe in the same sort of nonsense since you accept every other fact in the bible.
Your unbiblical stance is almost refreshing.
quote:Originally posted by Braylan:
Fish, what you attribute to Christian theology is a lie. No where in the Holy Bible does it say that drinking of wine and the like is wrong. .
But watch out for the Kool-Aid, it has a fatal kick.
quote:Originally posted by Bill Gray:
Hi DR,
I just noticed your tag line: "What the Mind Creates, the Mind Can Heal"
Just curious -- are you a Christian Scientist or are you New Age? That tag line could apply to both.
A better one would be: "What the mind creates; God can heal"
God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,
Bill
I believe:
Whatever works for that person to heal, whether it be through God (which is in each of us), or the Good within us. Getting rid of the negative pattern. Kinda of reprogramming ourselves. Most of the time, people's emotions, attitudes and beliefs manifest on a physical level. CHANGE YOUR THINKING, CHANGE YOUR LIFE!
For instance, the Heart represents the center of love and security. Problems with the heart could be longstanding emotional problems, lack of joy, hardening of the heart, etc. So by affirmation, meditation or praying or whatever works for the individual, asking for Joy into your life or into your heart and expressing love can possibly prevent any heart problems. Otherwise, getting rid of the negative pattern and replacing it with a positive attitude.
I was brought up a Baptist, became a Methodist, and love to go to the Catholic churches. I read and study, 'Science of the Mind' everyday.
PhD. in religion and a Universal minister, which believes in the Universal mind and the Universal laws that govern all of us. How we use it depends on us.
So I am all religion and still I am no religion except what is right for me.
quote:Originally posted by drdj:quote:Originally posted by Bill Gray:
Hi DR,
I just noticed your tag line: "What the Mind Creates, the Mind Can Heal"
Just curious -- are you a Christian Scientist or are you New Age? That tag line could apply to both.
A better one would be: "What the mind creates; God can heal"
God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,
Bill
I believe:
Whatever works for that person to heal, whether it be through God (which is in each of us), or the Good within us. Getting rid of the negative pattern. Kinda of reprogramming ourselves. Most of the time, people's emotions, attitudes and beliefs manifest on a physical level. CHANGE YOUR THINKING, CHANGE YOUR LIFE!
For instance, the Heart represents the center of love and security. Problems with the heart could be longstanding emotional problems, lack of joy, hardening of the heart, etc. So by affirmation, meditation or praying or whatever works for the individual, asking for Joy into your life or into your heart and expressing love can possibly prevent any heart problems. Otherwise, getting rid of the negative pattern and replacing it with a positive attitude.
I was brought up a Baptist, became a Methodist, and love to go to the Catholic churches. I read and study, 'Science of the Mind' everyday.
PhD. in religion and a Universal minister, which believes in the Universal mind and the Universal laws that govern all of us. How we use it depends on us.
So I am all religion and still I am no religion except what is right for me.
Hi DR,
Just for clarification, are you telling me you are a minister in a Unitarian Universalist church?
God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,
Bill
No, even though I have done some sermons there and was on the board. Death and illnesses in the family have kept me at a low profile in the community. I am semi-retired but have been self-employed for many years. I go where I am led. I love adventure!
quote:Originally posted by GoFish:quote:You are preaching a belief system just like Christians do.
Here is yet another question in the long line of questions that the fundies never answer: Tell me, Pete, do you consider your non-belief on Thor - god of Thunder - a religion?quote:if the ending is the same for all of us, then why don't you let folks enjoy their life however they choose?
Because your beliefs have an unwelcome effect on my life. I cannot buy beer on Sunday because of god-based law. Your belief in an invisible man in the sky has somehow given you the right to wage war on a woman's uterus. Your stupidity has stymied the research and development of stem cells that have potential to cure some of the biggest killers in on life. The ignorant followers of your religion insist on teaching our children that the earth is only 6000 years old, that snakes can talk and that women are subservient to and evolved from the rib of a man.
That is just the tip of the sh**berg, Peter.
I stood by and played along with the stupidity for 40-some years and have decided that enough is enough. I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more.
I will not let up until your religion becomes as person and private as your bowel movement. Keep it to yourself and I promise I will not ridicule it in any way.
No GoFish, I don't consider my nonbelief in those things a religion....BUT I DON'T PREACH SERMONS ON MY DISBELIEF IN ANY OF THOSE THINGS, THAT'S ALL YOU DO IS PREACH ON THE NON-EXSISTENCE OF GOD!!!!!!!!!! That IS religion. You want so bad to consider the Christian faith a farce that you worship the gods "Nothingness" and "Randomness". You think it's stupid to believe that God created woman from the rib of a man, yet YOU BELIEVE NOTHING CREATED EVERTHING!!!! YOU BELIEVE THAT ONE DAY NOTHING MAGICALLY BECAME A BUNCH OF SOMETHINGS, THAT HAVE MAGICALLY EVOLVED TRILLIONS OF TIMES OVER BILLIONS OF YEARS!!!!! hahahahaha... it takes a lot more faith to buy your story than mine buddy.
ps. #1. nobody has waged war on the femal uterus... except a woman who chooses to be irresponsible with her sex life.... #2. Adult stem cells have proven more effective time and time again in testing for possible vaccines and cures and such....that's the fact on that issue.
Hi Peter,
Amen to what you told Fish. We must all remember that our atheist Friends, because they have no substantial basis for their atheistic religion -- have to depend upon school yard childish questions like: do you believe in Santa Clause, do you believe in Thor, do you believe in leprechauns, etc., ad infinitum.
This is because they cannot discuss issues on an adult level -- so they attempt to pull us down to the school yard children's games they so love to play.
Once in a while they do come up with a good question or comment -- and then I comment. But, most of the time it is only silly, childish questions, name calling and insults, or cutesy remarks.
Like all children, we must be patient with them until they grow out of this phase of childhood.
God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,
Bill
Amen to what you told Fish. We must all remember that our atheist Friends, because they have no substantial basis for their atheistic religion -- have to depend upon school yard childish questions like: do you believe in Santa Clause, do you believe in Thor, do you believe in leprechauns, etc., ad infinitum.
This is because they cannot discuss issues on an adult level -- so they attempt to pull us down to the school yard children's games they so love to play.
Once in a while they do come up with a good question or comment -- and then I comment. But, most of the time it is only silly, childish questions, name calling and insults, or cutesy remarks.
Like all children, we must be patient with them until they grow out of this phase of childhood.
God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,
Bill
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quote:Originally posted by drdj:
No, even though I have done some sermons there and was on the board. Death and illnesses in the family have kept me at a low profile in the community. I am semi-retired but have been self-employed for many years. I go where I am led. I love adventure!
Mr. Bill,
Found the thread where I answered you!!
quote:No GoFish, I don't consider my nonbelief in those things a religion
Exactly.
Now you know why a non-belief in a omnipotent superman who lives in the clouds is not a religion, either.
For the record: I do not believe that a belief in god is "stupid." I once believed, after all.
quote:Originally posted by drdj:quote:Originally posted by drdj:
No, even though I have done some sermons there and was on the board. Death and illnesses in the family have kept me at a low profile in the community. I am semi-retired but have been self-employed for many years. I go where I am led. I love adventure!
Mr. Bill,
Found the thread where I answered you!!
Hi DR,
Sorry, I must have missed that. However, you did say in another post that you are a minister of the Universal. Does this mean that you were a minister in the Unitarian Universalist church and now have retired -- or that you are just a member. Do I have your church affiliation right? You are a member of the Unitarian Universalist church?
God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,
Bill
Hi DR,
Sorry, I must have missed that. However, you did say in another post that you are a minister of the Universal. Does this mean that you were a minister in the Unitarian Universalist church and now have retired -- or that you are just a member. Do I have your church affiliation right? You are a member of the Unitarian Universalist church?
No not a member anymore (but have real good friends that go there), two different groups (Unitarian are more humantist, Universalism is more spiritual oriented). Unitarian and Universalist are entirely different.
I was raised a baptist, was a methodist, love the catholic churches, debate with the mormans on the different levels of heaven, practice eastern religions with the chanting and extraordinary healing methods, involved in Native Americans and their spiritual ways, this includes South American (Mayans, Aztecs, etc.),
One of my ancestors wrote the Antiquities of Mexico, and died in an asylum trying to prove they were the lost tribes of Israel.
I am metaphysical, but nowhere near as the greatest metaphysicians of our time, Jesus. His mission was to the sick, 'the truth is the cure'.
But I understand his message: "What I can do, you can do also, but more".
Our evolutionary path is not only physical, but 'spiritual'.
As a Universal minister, my believe is in the Universal Mind 'the divine' and the Universal Laws 'which some call karma', whether good or bad. That is up to you to decide for yourself.
I AM ALL RELIGION AND YET NO RELIGION.
Hopefully, I have given you enough information to decide the playing field that you mentioned.
Sorry, I must have missed that. However, you did say in another post that you are a minister of the Universal. Does this mean that you were a minister in the Unitarian Universalist church and now have retired -- or that you are just a member. Do I have your church affiliation right? You are a member of the Unitarian Universalist church?
No not a member anymore (but have real good friends that go there), two different groups (Unitarian are more humantist, Universalism is more spiritual oriented). Unitarian and Universalist are entirely different.
I was raised a baptist, was a methodist, love the catholic churches, debate with the mormans on the different levels of heaven, practice eastern religions with the chanting and extraordinary healing methods, involved in Native Americans and their spiritual ways, this includes South American (Mayans, Aztecs, etc.),
One of my ancestors wrote the Antiquities of Mexico, and died in an asylum trying to prove they were the lost tribes of Israel.
I am metaphysical, but nowhere near as the greatest metaphysicians of our time, Jesus. His mission was to the sick, 'the truth is the cure'.
But I understand his message: "What I can do, you can do also, but more".
Our evolutionary path is not only physical, but 'spiritual'.
As a Universal minister, my believe is in the Universal Mind 'the divine' and the Universal Laws 'which some call karma', whether good or bad. That is up to you to decide for yourself.
I AM ALL RELIGION AND YET NO RELIGION.
Hopefully, I have given you enough information to decide the playing field that you mentioned.
quote:Unitarian are more humantist, Universalism is more spiritual oriented)
Didn't know that.
Is there such a thing as a Unitarian church? All I've ever known was Unitarian Universalist.
I believe from what I remember, it has been awhile since I studied that, it started out as Unitarian and somewhere they combined them. I remember talking about it in one of our meetings. I have a book on that, but my books are still packed from my last move.
Hopefully, within a year, I will have my library started up again.
Hopefully, within a year, I will have my library started up again.
Hi DR,
You tell me, "No not a member anymore (but have real good friends that go there), two different groups (Unitarian are more humanist, Universalism is more spiritual oriented). Unitarian and Universalist are entirely different.
As a Universal minister, my believe is in the Universal Mind 'the divine' and the Universal Laws 'which some call karma', whether good or bad. That is up to you to decide for yourself. I AM ALL RELIGION AND YET NO RELIGION. Hopefully, I have given you enough information to decide the playing field that you mentioned."
Not to be nasty, but the information you have given me leads me to believe one of two things. Either, you are my age and were once a Flower Child in San Francisco -- or you dream of being one of the 1960s Flower Children -- where you are one with the world; one with the flowers, the trees, the earth; one with the cosmos; seeking your own inner self, etc. -- all that a good hit off Columbian Gold pot could achieve.
Yes, I lived through the Hippie Sixties -- love everyone, love everything, and hope you do not catch something requiring penicillin.
You tell me you are not a minister -- now, you tell me you are a minister. What are you?
Now, let's talk more about the Unitarian Universalist church. First, the signers of the Humanist Manifestos included a number of Unitarian Universalist ministers. What are the Humanist Manifestos? Well they are a set of three (1933, 1973, 2003 -- do they have a religion revolving around the number 3?) Manifestos, or sort of the Atheist's Ten Commandments, which declare how all Humanists, i.e, secularists, atheists, etc, should live and what they should believe. These atheist declarations were supported by and signed by a number of Unitarian Universalist ministers.
You say, "Unitarian and Universalist are entirely different."
Yet, if I go to the "Unitarian Universalist Association of Congregations" web site, I find that it tells me differently.
About the Unitarian Universalist Association of Congregations: Link
The Unitarian Universalist Association (UUA) is a religious organization that combines two traditions: the Universalists, who organized in 1793, and the Unitarians, who organized in 1825. They consolidated into the UUA in 1961.
Unitarian Universalism is a liberal religion with Jewish-Christian roots. It has no creed. It affirms the worth of human beings, advocates freedom of belief and the search for advancing truth, and tries to provide a warm, open, supportive community for people who believe that ethical living is the supreme witness of religion.
Obviously, this will appeal to all of our atheist Friends -- for this philosophy says that you can do whatever you want -- and there is no accountability. Anyone running from Christianity will surely jump on this bandwagon. Hey, at one time I was on this same bandwagon -- until I realize that where it was heading, I did not want to go -- and then, I found the real Path -- the Way, the Truth, and the Life (John 14:6).
And, if I go to their "Beliefs Within UUA" web page, I find:
Beliefs Within Our Faith: Link
Unitarian Universalism is a liberal religion that encompasses many faith traditions. Unitarian Universalists include people who identify as Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, Pagans, Atheists, Agnostics, Humanists, and others. As there is no official Unitarian Universalist creed, Unitarian Universalists are free to search for truth on many paths.
To quote the Rev. Marta Flanagan, "We uphold the free search for truth. We will not be bound by a statement of belief. We do not ask anyone to subscribe to a creed. We say ours is a non-creedal religion. Ours is a free faith."
Although we uphold shared principles, individual Unitarian Universalists have varied beliefs about everything from scripture to rituals to God.
Beliefs Within Our Faith: Christianity, Humanism, Paganism, Theism/Deism, Buddhism, Judaism, Hinduism, Atheism/Agnosticism, Islam, and Other Beliefs.
Wow! Utopia for Atheists! Does anyone notice that the Unitarian Universalist church includes anyone who can breath? No belief or lack of belief is excluded.
And, what does Wikipedia say about the Unitarian Universalist church?
Unitarian Universalism: Link
Unitarian Universalism (UUism) is a theologically liberal religion characterized by its support for a "free and responsible search for truth and meaning." Unitarian Universalists do not share a creed; rather, they are unified by their shared search for spiritual growth. Unitarian Universalists draw on many different theological sources and have a wide range of beliefs and practices.
The Unitarian Universalist Association (UUA), founded in 1961 as a consolidation of the American Unitarian Association and the Universalist Church in America, is headquartered in Boston, Massachusetts, and serves churches mostly in the United States.
Unitarians and Universalists often have had a great deal of common interests and communication between them. In the often-quoted words of Thomas Starr King, pastor of the San Francisco Unitarian Church at the beginning of the civil war, "The Universalists believe that God is too good to dam(n) them -- and the Unitarians believe they are too good to be dam(n)ed!"
In 1961, the American Unitarian Association (AUA) was consolidated with the Universalist Church of America (UCA), thus forming the Unitarian Universalist Association. In the same year, the Canadian Unitarian Council (CUC) formed. The Unitarian Universalist Association was also given corporate status in May 1961 under special acts of legislature of The Commonwealth of Massachusetts and the State of New York [citation needed]. In 1998 the CUC and UUA dissolved their financial accord, although they continue to cooperate in many ways.
In 1995 the UUA helped establish the International Council of Unitarians and Universalists (ICUU) to connect unitarian and universalist faith traditions around the world.
DR, based upon what I have found, I would suggest you quit traipsing through the daisies with Tiny Tim and the Sixties Hippies -- and find out more about Jesus Christ and what He has done to offer you eternal salvation. In your present state of mind, you are on the slippery slope headed in the wrong direction.
God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,
Bill
You tell me, "No not a member anymore (but have real good friends that go there), two different groups (Unitarian are more humanist, Universalism is more spiritual oriented). Unitarian and Universalist are entirely different.
As a Universal minister, my believe is in the Universal Mind 'the divine' and the Universal Laws 'which some call karma', whether good or bad. That is up to you to decide for yourself. I AM ALL RELIGION AND YET NO RELIGION. Hopefully, I have given you enough information to decide the playing field that you mentioned."
Not to be nasty, but the information you have given me leads me to believe one of two things. Either, you are my age and were once a Flower Child in San Francisco -- or you dream of being one of the 1960s Flower Children -- where you are one with the world; one with the flowers, the trees, the earth; one with the cosmos; seeking your own inner self, etc. -- all that a good hit off Columbian Gold pot could achieve.
Yes, I lived through the Hippie Sixties -- love everyone, love everything, and hope you do not catch something requiring penicillin.
You tell me you are not a minister -- now, you tell me you are a minister. What are you?
Now, let's talk more about the Unitarian Universalist church. First, the signers of the Humanist Manifestos included a number of Unitarian Universalist ministers. What are the Humanist Manifestos? Well they are a set of three (1933, 1973, 2003 -- do they have a religion revolving around the number 3?) Manifestos, or sort of the Atheist's Ten Commandments, which declare how all Humanists, i.e, secularists, atheists, etc, should live and what they should believe. These atheist declarations were supported by and signed by a number of Unitarian Universalist ministers.
You say, "Unitarian and Universalist are entirely different."
Yet, if I go to the "Unitarian Universalist Association of Congregations" web site, I find that it tells me differently.
About the Unitarian Universalist Association of Congregations: Link
The Unitarian Universalist Association (UUA) is a religious organization that combines two traditions: the Universalists, who organized in 1793, and the Unitarians, who organized in 1825. They consolidated into the UUA in 1961.
Unitarian Universalism is a liberal religion with Jewish-Christian roots. It has no creed. It affirms the worth of human beings, advocates freedom of belief and the search for advancing truth, and tries to provide a warm, open, supportive community for people who believe that ethical living is the supreme witness of religion.
Obviously, this will appeal to all of our atheist Friends -- for this philosophy says that you can do whatever you want -- and there is no accountability. Anyone running from Christianity will surely jump on this bandwagon. Hey, at one time I was on this same bandwagon -- until I realize that where it was heading, I did not want to go -- and then, I found the real Path -- the Way, the Truth, and the Life (John 14:6).
And, if I go to their "Beliefs Within UUA" web page, I find:
Beliefs Within Our Faith: Link
Unitarian Universalism is a liberal religion that encompasses many faith traditions. Unitarian Universalists include people who identify as Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, Pagans, Atheists, Agnostics, Humanists, and others. As there is no official Unitarian Universalist creed, Unitarian Universalists are free to search for truth on many paths.
To quote the Rev. Marta Flanagan, "We uphold the free search for truth. We will not be bound by a statement of belief. We do not ask anyone to subscribe to a creed. We say ours is a non-creedal religion. Ours is a free faith."
Although we uphold shared principles, individual Unitarian Universalists have varied beliefs about everything from scripture to rituals to God.
Beliefs Within Our Faith: Christianity, Humanism, Paganism, Theism/Deism, Buddhism, Judaism, Hinduism, Atheism/Agnosticism, Islam, and Other Beliefs.
Wow! Utopia for Atheists! Does anyone notice that the Unitarian Universalist church includes anyone who can breath? No belief or lack of belief is excluded.
And, what does Wikipedia say about the Unitarian Universalist church?
Unitarian Universalism: Link
Unitarian Universalism (UUism) is a theologically liberal religion characterized by its support for a "free and responsible search for truth and meaning." Unitarian Universalists do not share a creed; rather, they are unified by their shared search for spiritual growth. Unitarian Universalists draw on many different theological sources and have a wide range of beliefs and practices.
The Unitarian Universalist Association (UUA), founded in 1961 as a consolidation of the American Unitarian Association and the Universalist Church in America, is headquartered in Boston, Massachusetts, and serves churches mostly in the United States.
Unitarians and Universalists often have had a great deal of common interests and communication between them. In the often-quoted words of Thomas Starr King, pastor of the San Francisco Unitarian Church at the beginning of the civil war, "The Universalists believe that God is too good to dam(n) them -- and the Unitarians believe they are too good to be dam(n)ed!"
In 1961, the American Unitarian Association (AUA) was consolidated with the Universalist Church of America (UCA), thus forming the Unitarian Universalist Association. In the same year, the Canadian Unitarian Council (CUC) formed. The Unitarian Universalist Association was also given corporate status in May 1961 under special acts of legislature of The Commonwealth of Massachusetts and the State of New York [citation needed]. In 1998 the CUC and UUA dissolved their financial accord, although they continue to cooperate in many ways.
In 1995 the UUA helped establish the International Council of Unitarians and Universalists (ICUU) to connect unitarian and universalist faith traditions around the world.
DR, based upon what I have found, I would suggest you quit traipsing through the daisies with Tiny Tim and the Sixties Hippies -- and find out more about Jesus Christ and what He has done to offer you eternal salvation. In your present state of mind, you are on the slippery slope headed in the wrong direction.
God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,
Bill
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Bill, is that the same a the Moonies?
quote:Originally posted by Fawn:
Bill, is that the same a the Moonies?
Hi Fawn,
No, the Moonies are from the Unification Church, which was started in 1954 by Rev. Sun Myung Moon -- hence the name "Moonies.'
It is another cult church. Rev. Moon and his wife are called Mother and Father and Moon teaches that he has been sent to finish the work that Jesus did not finish while on earth.
Moon denies the Trinity; he denies the deity of Jesus Christ. He has many more off the wall teachings. I have several books about this church and Moon; one written by a young man who was recrutited off a college campus, and rose to a fairly high position within the Unification Church. He was in their Washington DC Lobby office. Yes, they have official lobbyiest in Washington.
The man left the church and wrote a book about his experiences; such as having to get up at 5:00 AM to pray to Mother and Father, Moon and his wife.
One of the Moon missionaries has been on my Friends Ministry mail list for years. He disagrees with me; but, opts to stay on my Christian writing ministry e-mail list -- even though I will tell him that his church is a cult church.
Fawn, I pray this helps.
God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,
Bill
quote:Bill, is that the same a the Moonies?
The Moonies call themselves the "Unification" church.
I used to get that confused as well.
quote:Not to be nasty, but the information you have given me leads me to believe one of two things. Either, you are my age and were once a Flower Child in San Francisco -- or you dream of being one of the 1960s Flower Children
Jesus, Bill. Only you could insult a fellow believer for beliefs that differ only slightly from your own.
If you weren't such an ass, I would consider you sad and pathetic.
Actually, Mr. Bill, surprise, but I worked for the Federal Government in the late 60's. I had a top secret clearance and worked at different NASA facilities. (Marshall, Kennedy, and Ames).
Was not a hippie, did not want to be a hippie. I was working and starting my family while the rest made love and fried their brains. Otherwise, I was in the space agency.
I told you I was not a Unitarian minister but a Universal minister. The people that attend the U.U. Church are wonderful people. Alot of them had religion thrown down their throats. They put their pants(ies) on the same way you do. I'm glad you are so interested you looked them up.
I was baptized in the Baptist church but found out my fellowship is my business. You see the old dogmatic religion is fading away. You better catch up or you will be left behind! Maybe you need to go back to your old metaphysical ways, Mr. Bill, because you are still turning people off from the opportunity of knowing the real Jesus. The great metaphysician of all times.
Am I still in the playing field or do you want to hear more.
Was not a hippie, did not want to be a hippie. I was working and starting my family while the rest made love and fried their brains. Otherwise, I was in the space agency.
I told you I was not a Unitarian minister but a Universal minister. The people that attend the U.U. Church are wonderful people. Alot of them had religion thrown down their throats. They put their pants(ies) on the same way you do. I'm glad you are so interested you looked them up.
I was baptized in the Baptist church but found out my fellowship is my business. You see the old dogmatic religion is fading away. You better catch up or you will be left behind! Maybe you need to go back to your old metaphysical ways, Mr. Bill, because you are still turning people off from the opportunity of knowing the real Jesus. The great metaphysician of all times.
Am I still in the playing field or do you want to hear more.